Identity Cards Bill. Lords Committee stage fifth day. Clauses 8 to 23 agreed to. (Part 1 of 2 records).
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Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1297 (Link to this contribution)
In his amendment to strike out the word ““ascertaining”” from Clause 17(1) the noble Lord goes to th...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1297 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Baroness for her question, to which the answer is yes. Clause 1(3) is the...
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Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1297-9 (Link to this contribution)
I say yet again to the noble Lord that I do not think they are necessary. I can reassure him that it...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1299-300 (Link to this contribution)
As usual, I am grateful to the Minister for that full explanation. A number of issues arise from it—...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1300 (Link to this contribution)
Which clause is the noble Lord referring to?
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1300-1 (Link to this contribution)
Clause 17 (1), which starts by saying:"““The Secretary of State may by regulations make provision au...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1301 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 194:"Page 17, line 2, at end insert—"
““( ) It shall be unlawful for any p...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1301-2 (Link to this contribution)
As the noble Baroness has explained, the amendment would place on the face of the Bill a subsection ...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1302-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am rather disappointed by the response from the noble Lord, Lord Bassam. I appreciate that it is t...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1304-5 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 195:"Page 17, line 12, leave out ““connected with”” and insert ““necessary for””...
Lord Hylton | 676 c1305 (Link to this contribution)
I should like to do the same for reasons that I gave earlier this evening.
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1305-6 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the noble Baroness, Lady Noakes, to the fray. I am glad to see her. For the reasons that I...
Baroness Noakes | 676 c1305 (Link to this contribution)
My noble friends Lady Anelay of St Johns and Lady Seccombe have added their names to this amendment....
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1307 (Link to this contribution)
I would be delighted to agree with the noble and learned Lord.
Lord Lyell of Markyate | 676 c1307 (Link to this contribution)
In that case the public would say, ““It is two lawyers””. In my case at least, if I were younger, it...
Earl of Erroll | 676 c1306 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister made an excellent case for these amendments. I could not work out what was left with re...
Lord Lyell of Markyate | 676 c1306-7 (Link to this contribution)
I very much support what the noble Earl, Lord Erroll, has said. The noble Lord, Lord Phillips, put h...
Lord Lyell of Markyate | 676 c1309 (Link to this contribution)
I support the purport of these amendments. I will not repeat what the noble Lord has said, but I ask...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1307-8 (Link to this contribution)
I think you would say, ““Two lawyers too many””. I am grateful, as ever, to the noble Baroness for p...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1308-9 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 201:"Page 17, line 27, after ““of”” insert ““serious””"
The noble Lord said: Am...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1314-5 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to all Members of the Committee who have contributed to the discussion on this group o...
Lord Peyton of Yeovil | 676 c1314 (Link to this contribution)
I do not want to prolong things at all. However, the noble Baroness is right—I have been around for ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1311 (Link to this contribution)
Is it not true that drug trafficking would be a serious crime?
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1314 (Link to this contribution)
I understand the noble Lord’s anxiety, but it is not justified in this case. We rely on the efficacy...
Lord Peyton of Yeovil | 676 c1314 (Link to this contribution)
I do not want to prolong what is already a rather long speech, if I may say so, but I would like to ...
Lord Hylton | 676 c1309 (Link to this contribution)
I support this group of amendments, which seem to me to be reasonable and necessary. There is a wide...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1310-1 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Earl, Lord Errol, for not agreeing with the amendment. I think that the a...
Earl of Erroll | 676 c1309-10 (Link to this contribution)
Funnily enough, I disagree slightly on the matter of serious crime. I would prefer to see something ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1321 (Link to this contribution)
They really are not unlimited. I have, with the greatest respect to the noble and learned Lord, gone...
Lord Crickhowell | 676 c1321 (Link to this contribution)
Before my noble friend withdraws her amendment, the Minister effectively said that I had got it wron...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1319-21 (Link to this contribution)
No apology is necessary, not least because the noble Lord spoke to his amendments so expeditiously. ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1318-9 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise to the Minister for my lateness. I had overlooked the fact that I have two amendments in...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1318 (Link to this contribution)
I think the noble Lord has got it wrong. I shall explain why. I apologise for the length of my reply...
Lord Lyell of Markyate | 676 c1318 (Link to this contribution)
I support what my noble friend has just said and I support what my noble friend Lady Anelay said in ...
Lord Crickhowell | 676 c1316-8 (Link to this contribution)
I missed the opening exchanges on the previous set of amendments but this set is closely connected w...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1315-6 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 202:"Page 17, line 28, leave out paragraph (c)."
The noble Baroness said: This ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1315 (Link to this contribution)
Absolutely, but I am sure that the noble Baroness and the noble Lord, Lord Bassam, are mindful of th...
Earl of Erroll | 676 c1315 (Link to this contribution)
I did so only to a limited extent, in that I would like the phrase qualified, as would the noble Lor...
Lord Lucas | 676 c1323 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for that. I had not understood the width of the provision in Clause 24. I beg leave to...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1323 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord’s amendment would authorise the provision of information not falling within paragraph...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1324-5 (Link to this contribution)
I had better be careful what I say on the question of reciprocity. I know that the noble Lord has a ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1323-4 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 210:"Page 18, line 26, leave out paragraphs (g) to (i)."
The noble Lord said: A...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1322 (Link to this contribution)
We see a future in which reasons will be proper, specified, proportionate, relevant and necessary. I...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1322 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to all noble Lords who have taken part in the debate on this group of amendments, whic...
Lord Lucas | 676 c1323 (Link to this contribution)
I was hoping to save time but, if the Minister needs an explanation, I ask her what access the Gover...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1323 (Link to this contribution)
I know it was foolish of me, but I thought the noble Lord might want to give some reason why he thou...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1325 (Link to this contribution)
I will support the noble Lord and not be at all facetious. One has to face the reality that the isla...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1325 (Link to this contribution)
No, of course it does not mean that. The noble Lord is being just a touch facetious.
Lord Lucas | 676 c1325 (Link to this contribution)
Does that mean that the residents of these islands will be able to move unchecked throughout the Uni...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1326 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move that the House be resumed. In moving this Motion, may I suggest that the Committee sta...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1325-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
Clause 19 ag...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1325 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord makes a perfectly fine and valid point. As for ID cards, the islands have their own j...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1325 (Link to this contribution)
It has not made me rich. Quite seriously, however, it is a real hole in the UK tax bucket. I know fr...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1257 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do now again resolve itself into Committee on this Bill.
Mov...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1257-8 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 141:"Page 7, line 18, leave out from ““used”” to end of line 21 and insert ““whe...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1258 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord should not come from Brighton; then he would understand what it means.
Who makes the...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1258 (Link to this contribution)
What does that mean?
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1259-60 (Link to this contribution)
Although I hope that I will be as lucid as the noble Lord, Lord Phillips of Sudbury, would like, I c...
Earl of Northesk | 676 c1258-9 (Link to this contribution)
It may be convenient to the Committee if I speak to my two amendments in this group. My purpose here...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1260 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure that I speak on behalf of all noble Lords when I say that we pity the noble Baroness for b...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1266 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the clarity of the Government’s answer. I certainly look forward to seeing those a...
Lord Clarke of Hampstead | 676 c1267-8 (Link to this contribution)
Originally my name was to this amendment but I had to leave London on the day that I thought it woul...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1266-7 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 151:"Page 8, line 18, at end insert—"
““( ) The Secretary of State must op...
Lord Hylton | 676 c1269 (Link to this contribution)
Competitive tendering may well be desirable in this matter. It raises the question, however, of the ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1268-9 (Link to this contribution)
I hope I can offer some reassurance on the nature of the planned procurement process for the identit...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1269 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord makes a perfectly respectable point. I agree that it will be crucial to the effective...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 676 c1269-70 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister said that this service would be put out to private tender. However, the Post Office is ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1269 (Link to this contribution)
I am not an expert in that field. I am going to take the noble Lord on trust and agree with him that...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1270 (Link to this contribution)
The term that we use is ““competitive tender”” and we are seeking best value. Privatising the Post O...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1270-1 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for a reply of clarity which it was perhaps not possible to give on 7 ...
Lord Crickhowell | 676 c1270 (Link to this contribution)
I have listened very carefully to what the Minister has said. I have nothing so difficult to ask as ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1272-3 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for that explanation. I am not moving Amendments Nos. 163 and 164 because of the point...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1271-2 (Link to this contribution)
I am more than happy to help. Clause 11, as the noble Lord indicated, empowers the Secretary of Stat...
Baroness Seccombe | 676 c1271 (Link to this contribution)
Clause 11 deals with the provisions that the Government feel are necessary to permit data to be shar...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1271 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 162:"Page 9, line 36, leave out paragraph (c)."
The noble Lord said: I see the ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1274 (Link to this contribution)
I have Amendments Nos. 268A and 268B in this group, to which I shall speak briefly. They concern Cla...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1273-4 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 165:"Page 10, line 11, leave out ““include”” and insert ““are””"
The noble Baro...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1273 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Baroness. I will think further about it. I am still not convinced, but I ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1273 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord may remember the example I gave of information that may already be in the possession ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1260-1 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 145:"Page 7, line 35, at end insert ““and who has consented to be issued with an...
Lord Hylton | 676 c1261 (Link to this contribution)
Looking slightly backwards to a previous amendment, would the Minister be very kind and consult draf...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1261 (Link to this contribution)
My Amendment No. 146 is a modest, probing amendment. It has been degrouped and therefore I can expla...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1262 (Link to this contribution)
I do not want to prolong this, but the subsection starts by saying:"““In prescribed cases an ID card...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1262 (Link to this contribution)
The prescription will be contained within the orders. I seek to make clear that Clause 8 merely enab...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1262-3 (Link to this contribution)
I do not think so because the Bill deals first with the entitlement and then with this clause. The p...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1261-2 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Baroness for what she said but I am a little baffled because it seems to ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1261 (Link to this contribution)
I shall deal first with the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Hylton. We believe that the clause is...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1262 (Link to this contribution)
That, I think the Minister will agree, will depend upon what the Secretary of State prescribes, and ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1262 (Link to this contribution)
I give the example of a UK national who has not been resident here for some time but has been reside...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1263-5 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 150A:"Page 8, line 16, at end insert ““or"
( ) the registrable facts under...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1263 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for that exchange. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment, by leave, withdr...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1263 (Link to this contribution)
If they are prescribed, one then has discretion to include them. If they were not prescribed, you wo...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1263 (Link to this contribution)
Once they are prescribed, they then become entitled. That is a problem, isn’t it?
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1266 (Link to this contribution)
That is exactly what we are going to do, yes.
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 676 c1266 (Link to this contribution)
The committee’s recommendations simply say that in four cases the negative resolution procedure shou...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1266 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure that the noble Baroness followed what I said. We accept the principle. We are endeavouring...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 676 c1266 (Link to this contribution)
Did the Minister say that, although he is not absolutely certain about my noble friend’s amendments,...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1265-6 (Link to this contribution)
We are very grateful to the noble Baroness for tabling these amendments, which, as she made clear, t...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1265 (Link to this contribution)
I am sympathetic to the amendments just spoken to by the noble Baroness and strongly support the las...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1289 (Link to this contribution)
We are working on that, which is why I thought it would comfort the noble Lord to talk about the wor...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1289 (Link to this contribution)
I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
[Amendment No. 179 had been...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1288-9 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for calming my troubled breast—an almost anaesthetic calming of my troubled bre...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1291 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Lord; he is quite right. The amendment does refer to line 23, and I confu...
Lord Monson | 676 c1291 (Link to this contribution)
I support Amendment No. 190, which is totally necessary, but I wonder whether the noble Lord, Lord P...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1291 (Link to this contribution)
I support Amendment No. 190. Will the Government think again regarding circumstances where people ha...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1290-1 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 188:"Page 14, line 10, leave out paragraphs (a) to (c) and insert ““one of eithe...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1290 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful and, indeed, I would see that if I found that the language of Clause 14 made that clea...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1289-90 (Link to this contribution)
I do not think that the noble Lord will find that this amendment is necessary. As I have already sai...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1289 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 181:"Page 12, line 38, at end insert—"
““( ) The right of the Secretary of...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1291 (Link to this contribution)
The look on the Minister’s face made me realise that in trying to be brief I have been too brief and...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1294 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful for that careful explanation of the Government’s position on Clause 15, which is ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1294 (Link to this contribution)
If we did not have the use of an ID card and we followed the noble Lord’s amendment so that there wa...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1296-7 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 192:"Page 15, line 33, leave out paragraph (b)."
The noble Lord said: The headi...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1295 (Link to this contribution)
I have tried to be clear that we are not actively pursuing this. We have dealt with the free provisi...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1294-5 (Link to this contribution)
I accept that point. We have come to a state of enlightenment on this because I accept that, if you ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1296 (Link to this contribution)
I shall be happy to do that. As I have indicated, we are not actively pursuing that at the moment. I...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1295 (Link to this contribution)
I am not sure whether that last exposition has left me certain of how things stand. Would it be aski...
Lord Hylton | 676 c1283 (Link to this contribution)
If the Ministers intend to reply to the noble Lord, Lord Phillips of Sudbury, on the Government’s in...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1285 (Link to this contribution)
That makes it clear—the Government could require a fee, but they do not intend to. That is what the ...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 676 c1283-4 (Link to this contribution)
It depends on how you look at it. I never wanted identity cards in the first place. If people are to...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1284-5 (Link to this contribution)
I am always delighted when there is a bit of friction between the noble Lord, Lord Peyton, and the n...
Lord Peyton of Yeovil | 676 c1283 (Link to this contribution)
I normally agree warmly with anything the noble Lord, Lord Stoddart, says, but I wonder if he is rig...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1285 (Link to this contribution)
I want quickly to ask the Minister something. When he talks about students moving addresses and stuf...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1285 (Link to this contribution)
I thought that I had made it clear several times, or at least twice, that that is not our intended a...
Earl of Northesk | 676 c1285 (Link to this contribution)
Does the noble Lord, Lord Phillips, want to ask further questions? It is my amendment.
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1285 (Link to this contribution)
That is the point. It is one thing for the Government to say that they do not intend to charge; that...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1285 (Link to this contribution)
That is right. We have no intention of charging for a change of address in the way in which the nobl...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1285-6 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, we have a discretion for the setting of fees. That power is there. I cannot cite the noble Lord...
Earl of Northesk | 676 c1286 (Link to this contribution)
I thank all Members of the Committee who have contributed to the debate. I also thank the Minister f...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1286 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 178:"Page 12, line 36, after ““the”” insert ““express””"
The noble Lord said: T...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1286-7 (Link to this contribution)
My name appears on the Marshalled List in support of Amendment No. 178. I had originally tabled my o...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1287-8 (Link to this contribution)
I understand the concern expressed by the noble Lord and the noble Baroness but, looking at the draf...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 676 c1288 (Link to this contribution)
I hate to hold up proceedings but the Minister talked about the very important issue of the meaning ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1288 (Link to this contribution)
I am very happy to check, but I can reassure your Lordships and the noble Baroness that the law in S...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1277 (Link to this contribution)
I wish to make it clear that we have consulted the Scottish Executive. There is nothing between us; ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1277 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry if I have not expressed it clearly enough. I think that the two provisions are consistent...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1277 (Link to this contribution)
I had hoped I had done that by saying to the Committee that we anticipate that the majority of those...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1277 (Link to this contribution)
I am still mystified. The Passport Office, which has wider powers under Clause 39, requires and is e...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 676 c1276 (Link to this contribution)
I appreciate that point. I wonder why, when the Bill was being drafted and the Advocate-General was ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1276-7 (Link to this contribution)
My name is on the two amendments spoken to by the noble Baroness, Lady Anelay. The form of words in ...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 676 c1275-6 (Link to this contribution)
In referring to Clause 11(5), the noble Baroness mentioned the fact that the Scottish Executive is n...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1276 (Link to this contribution)
At the moment, subsection (5)(e) enables the Secretary of State to specify the Scottish Executive as...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1274-5 (Link to this contribution)
I understand the premise on which the noble Baroness, Lady Anelay, has moved her amendment. However,...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1282 (Link to this contribution)
I wonder whether I might assist the noble Lord, Lord Phillips. Does he mean to welcome the fact that...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1282-3 (Link to this contribution)
I never try to give away too much but I am a generous fellow, and it was my amendment. I did not wan...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1280 (Link to this contribution)
The amendments are clear, and we understand them. We believe that the issue of ID cards should be co...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1280 (Link to this contribution)
No, but the noble Lord is provoked because he cannot think of legislation of this consequence for wh...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1280-2 (Link to this contribution)
That is a clever point from the noble Lord but, as I explained, Parliament will have the opportunity...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1282 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Lord for dealing with those amendments, particularly for the concession o...
Earl of Northesk | 676 c1278 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 176:"Page 11, line 41, at end insert—"
““( ) Where an ID card has been can...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1278-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Amendments Nos. 260 and 261, 263 to 267 and 268 are in this group. Amendment No. 260 relates to t...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1279 (Link to this contribution)
I shall briefly comment on Amendment No. 261, just for completeness, as we have our name to some of ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1311-4 (Link to this contribution)
It is a serious crime, but your Lordships will also know that taking drugs from one country to anoth...
Lord Lucas | 676 c1322-3 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 205A:"Page 17, line 46, at end insert—"
““( ) to the National Identity Sch...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1296 (Link to this contribution)
In that case, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
[Amendments N...
Lord Lucas | 676 c1321-2 (Link to this contribution)
Do I understand things correctly? A commercial organisation, in querying the register, will present ...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 676 c1283 (Link to this contribution)
The more I have sat here and listened to the debate on these amendments, the more concerned I have b...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1277-8 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful that the Minister has answered the question about consulting the Scottish Executive wh...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1309 (Link to this contribution)
I merely rise to welcome this opportunity for the Government to clarify further what level of crime ...
Lord Clarke of Hampstead | 676 c1269 (Link to this contribution)
Can the Minister confirm to the Committee that the identification-related services already handled b...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1291-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am very grateful to the noble Baroness. I thought for one moment that she was suggesting that she ...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1277 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Baroness, as ever, but there are some questions that have arisen from thi...
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