Transport (Wales) Bill
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Transport (Wales) Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory notes HL Bill 26-EN also published.
Tuesday, 18 October 2005
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Tuesday, 18 October 2005
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Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c435GC (Link to this contribution)
Without going through all the amendments again, I assure the noble Lord that Amendment No. 1, which ...
Lord Bradshaw | 675 c453-4GC (Link to this contribution)
I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
Clause 7 agreed to.
Clause...
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Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c439-40GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for his comments. We are not alone in being somewhat surprised at the ...
Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c456-7GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 18:"Page 7, line 7, leave out subsection (2)."
The noble Lord said: This is a p...
Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 675 c438-9GC (Link to this contribution)
At Second Reading, the Liberal Democrats drew attention to the absence of railways in the Bill. I ha...
Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c437GC (Link to this contribution)
Once again, I am grateful to the Minister for his reply. I am glad that the CBI, the Federation of S...
Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c437-8GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 3:"Page 1, line 11, after ““required”” insert ““, including rail infrastructure,...
Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c435GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for the many assurances he has given by showing his sympathy towards m...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c433-5GC (Link to this contribution)
Clause 1 places upon the Welsh Assembly a general transport duty. Part of that duty will be to devel...
Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c435-6GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 2:"Page 1, line 6, at end insert ““for the promotion of the Welsh economy, and””...
Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c431-2GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 1:"Page 1, line 4, at end insert ““accessible,””"
The noble Lord said: I thank ...
Lord Prys-Davies | 675 c453GC (Link to this contribution)
Does my noble friend agree with the assertions contained in the briefing material that noble Lords h...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c453GC (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord is now referring to bus services outside London. We are talking today about bus servi...
Lord Bradshaw | 675 c453GC (Link to this contribution)
I simply say in response to the Minister that he has only got to look at the bus statistics for the ...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c453GC (Link to this contribution)
I have quoted the Office of Fair Trading that this is not a widespread problem. The noble Lord, Lord...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c447GC (Link to this contribution)
Clause 7 will empower the National Assembly for Wales to secure the provision of any public passenge...
Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c446-7GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 13:"Page 4, line 26, leave out ““who are”” and insert ““including the””"
The no...
Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 675 c450GC (Link to this contribution)
Once again, I support my noble friend Lord Bradshaw in the proposal for Wales to have its own traffi...
Lord Bradshaw | 675 c444-5GC (Link to this contribution)
Services at a lot of junction stations are deliberately timed so that they do not connect. As I said...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c445GC (Link to this contribution)
I can assure the noble Lord that rail franchisees would, as key players, be included in the extensiv...
Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c442GC (Link to this contribution)
I am surprised that there is so little talk about the estimated costs of the strategy because, certa...
Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c440GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 5:"Page 1, line 18, after ““1(1)(a)”” insert ““, including their estimated costs...
Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c458GC (Link to this contribution)
I simply wish to say that the cost of the strategy is very unclear and not open to scrutiny. The sou...
Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c457-8GC (Link to this contribution)
Once again I am grateful to the Minister and, indeed, reassured by his mention of the public service...
Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 675 c455GC (Link to this contribution)
All right. I take the point.
Lord Prys-Davies | 675 c436GC (Link to this contribution)
I have a good deal of sympathy with Amendment No. 2. At Second Reading in the House of Commons, the ...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c431GC (Link to this contribution)
A number of Members of the Committee are concerned about the deteriorating weather conditions outsid...
Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 675 c432-3GC (Link to this contribution)
I support from these Benches the amendments proposed by the noble Lord, Lord Roberts of Conwy, endor...
Lord Prys-Davies | 675 c433GC (Link to this contribution)
I share the views expressed by both the noble Lords, Lord Roberts of Conwy and Lord Roberts of Lland...
Baroness Gould of Potternewton | 675 c431GC (Link to this contribution)
Before I put the Question that the Title be postponed, I remind your Lordships of two points of proc...
Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 675 c451GC (Link to this contribution)
Is the Minister telling us that there is a separate traffic commissioner for Wales who also happens ...
Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c454-5GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 16:"Page 5, line 39, at end insert—"
““( ) There shall be a sub-committee ...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c446GC (Link to this contribution)
Having said that, I hope that the noble Lord will feel able to withdraw his amendment.
Lord Bradshaw | 675 c447-8GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 15:"Page 4, line 31, at end insert—"
““( ) In respect of bus services oper...
Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c449-50GC (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord, Lord Bradshaw, has put forward some very interesting ideas that cast a new light, as...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c450-1GC (Link to this contribution)
Amendment No. 15 would allow operators of bus services within or mainly within Wales to enter into a...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c446GC (Link to this contribution)
I can assure the noble Lord, Lord Bradshaw, that the Assembly will take account of connectivity with...
Lord Bradshaw | 675 c446GC (Link to this contribution)
I am very sorry; I am speaking to Amendment No. 15. However, the debate concerns connections between...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c446GC (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry to interrupt the noble Lord, but my officials tell me that he may be speaking to Amendmen...
Lord Bradshaw | 675 c445GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister; I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
[Amen...
Lord Bradshaw | 675 c445GC (Link to this contribution)
I hear what the Minister says, but I still want to be clear that the Assembly must consult those who...
Lord Bradshaw | 675 c442-3GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 7:"Page 2, line 8, at end insert—"
““( ) existing franchisees of railway s...
Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c443GC (Link to this contribution)
Before the noble Lord—for whom I have a great deal of affection—goes much further, would he not be w...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c440-2GC (Link to this contribution)
The Wales Transport Strategy will be a broad policy statement, setting out the Assembly’s vision and...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c444GC (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the enthusiasm of the noble Lord, Lord Bradshaw, for these matters. He talks about the imp...
Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 675 c444GC (Link to this contribution)
I support what my noble friend has said. A failed connection between the Blaenau Ffestiniog to Lland...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c457GC (Link to this contribution)
Clause 11 empowers the Assembly to provide financial assistance for air traffic services and airport...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c455-6GC (Link to this contribution)
Clause 8 allows the Assembly to set up a Public Transport Users’ Committee for Wales by order made i...
Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c455GC (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I may point out that a sub-committee is usually composed of selected members of the main com...
Lord Prys-Davies | 675 c435GC (Link to this contribution)
I thought that Amendment No. 6 was to insert words into Clause 2, not Clause 1.
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c436-7GC (Link to this contribution)
As we have heard, Amendment No. 2 would extend the general transport duty in Clause 1 to include a s...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c451-2GC (Link to this contribution)
We have already been told that this traffic commissioner deals with two comparatively small areas. I...
Lord Bradshaw | 675 c452-3GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his remarks. He has not satisfied me at all. If he thinks that the current ...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c453GC (Link to this contribution)
Clearly, we will return to this at the next stage; but I have just been given some information that ...
Lord Bradshaw | 675 c446GC (Link to this contribution)
I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c447GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for the assurance that he has given that the amendment is unnecessary ...
Lord Prys-Davies | 675 c448-9GC (Link to this contribution)
I believe that a strong case can be made out in support of Amendment No. 19; the appointment of a tr...
Lord Bradshaw | 675 c445-6GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 12:"Page 4, line 24, at end insert—"
““( ) the effect of any incentive sch...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c445GC (Link to this contribution)
I agree absolutely with the noble Lord that, without connectivity, it is impossible to have an integ...
Lord Bradshaw | 675 c443-4GC (Link to this contribution)
My interest in that company is extremely slight. I think I have been to one meeting with it in a yea...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c439GC (Link to this contribution)
Both noble Lords are hung up on the fact that railways are not mentioned in the Bill. It seems to ha...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 675 c458GC (Link to this contribution)
As noble Lords know, the Bill was introduced in the other place. If the Bill had been introduced in ...
Lord Roberts of Conwy | 675 c456GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for his comments. It is important that we continue to draw attention t...
Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 675 c455GC (Link to this contribution)
I hope that such a sub-committee would not mean that there would be reduced representation on the ma...
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