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Apprenticeships, Skills, Children and Learning Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 23 February 2009, in the House of Commons, led by Ed Balls. The answering member was Michael Gove.
Apprenticeships, Skills, Children and Learning Bill. Second reading debate. Agreed to on question. Programme motion on proceedings in Committee, on Report, Third Reading and any other proceedings. Agreed to on question. Queen's recommendation signified. Money resolution agreed to on question. Ways and Means resolution agreed to on question.

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488 c23-124 

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2008-09

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Second reading

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House of Commons chamber

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Proceeding contributions

Ann Coffey | 488 c29 (Link to this contribution) Abacus, in my constituency, was one of the first Sure Start centres. Part of its success has been th...
Ed Balls | 488 c28-9 (Link to this contribution) Ofqual is a new agency that has tough powers, and it is important that the examination bodies know t...

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Cheryl Gillan | 488 c29 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State knows that on Friday I have the privilege of introducing a private Member's B...
Ed Balls | 488 c29 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has a great track record and expertise in those matters. If she thinks that that is t...
Cheryl Gillan | 488 c30 (Link to this contribution) May I press the Secretary of State further? Will he confirm that the statutory guidance that accompa...
Ed Balls | 488 c29-30 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady has a passion about and an expertise in such matters. We discussed them with the paren...
Graham Stuart | 488 c27 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way?
Ed Balls | 488 c27 (Link to this contribution) In the reforms to key stage 3, we are introducing such sampling, and Ofqual will advise us on it to ...
Graham Stuart | 488 c28 (Link to this contribution) If I may, I shall bring the Secretary of State back to Ofqual and its independence. Has he had an op...
Ed Balls | 488 c27-8 (Link to this contribution) No. I turn to a second point that is essential to the Bill. Strong discipline is vital for effectiv...
David Laws | 488 c27 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Secretary of State for his patience in giving way a second time. Given his undo...
Ed Balls | 488 c27 (Link to this contribution) I am not going to do that because I will leave it to Ofqual. It is an independent regulator of stand...
David Laws | 488 c27 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State will be aware that at a recent Qualifications and Curriculum Authority meetin...
Ed Balls | 488 c26-7 (Link to this contribution) I was coming to that very point. If we want to raise school standards to ensure that every school ca...
John Redwood | 488 c26 (Link to this contribution) As someone who wishes to see more pupils from state schools get to top universities, does the Secret...
Ed Balls | 488 c26 (Link to this contribution) As I understand it, we have funded 10,000 more student places—that is no cap. The question is this: ...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 488 c25 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the Secretary of State did not wish to mislead the House in his answer to the hon. Me...
Ed Balls | 488 c25 (Link to this contribution) I wanted to make some progress and look at the individual reforms in order, but I am happy to answer...
John Bercow | 488 c25 (Link to this contribution) Clause 47 concerns the provision of education for persons subject to youth detention. Given that, as...
Ed Balls | 488 c24-5 (Link to this contribution) As I said, the international, objective TIMSS report, which came out only recently, showed that Engl...
Lord Boswell of Aynho | 488 c24 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Secretary of State for giving way and I immediately take this first opportunity...
Graham Stuart | 488 c24 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether this is the time for the Secretary of State to share with the House whether he beli...
Ed Balls | 488 c24 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the hon. Gentleman's support for my words about Lord Dearing. In my speech I was p...
Ed Balls | 488 c24 (Link to this contribution) I shall take both hon. Gentlemen's interventions in a second. However, before I do, I want to pay tr...
Ed Balls | 488 c23-4 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time. Over the past 11 years our education system...
Kelvin Hopkins | 488 c38 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased that the hon. Gentleman has mentioned Finland as a good example of an education system ...
Michael Gove | 488 c35-7 (Link to this contribution) May I say how much I enjoyed the Secretary of State's speech, particularly the last few moments? The...
Michael Gove | 488 c37 (Link to this contribution) If Members want to hear about the questions in those papers, I shall turn to them shortly. First, I ...
Graham Stuart | 488 c37 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that one of Ofqual's first jobs as the central regulator will be to conduc...
Ed Balls | 488 c34 (Link to this contribution) With respect—I hope that the hon. Gentleman will have an opportunity to be part of our debates in th...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 488 c34 (Link to this contribution) I would like to draw the Secretary of State back to his earlier comment about careers guidance in sc...
Ed Balls | 488 c34-5 (Link to this contribution) Just a few weeks ago, I met some young apprentices in Derby and saw how learning on a young apprenti...
Barry Sheerman | 488 c34 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend knows that the Children, Schools and Families Select Committee also stressed th...
Ed Balls | 488 c33 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to give that assurance. These are new apprenticeships in the public sector, and there wil...
Ed Balls | 488 c33 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman would like to tell us his views on grammar schools, I shall be happy to take h...
Lord Willetts | 488 c33 (Link to this contribution) I want to ask the Secretary of State about the announcement today of 21,000 new apprenticeships in t...
Ed Balls | 488 c33 (Link to this contribution) They are being taught separately in increasing numbers. Standards are rising in science, and we now ...
Ed Balls | 488 c33 (Link to this contribution) There is already substantial investment in apprenticeships. My right hon. Friend the Secretary of St...
Joan Walley | 488 c32-3 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the framework for apprenticeships that my right hon. Friend is introducing. However, in St...
Ed Balls | 488 c32 (Link to this contribution) I have already given way to the hon. Gentleman. I will give way to my hon. Friend.
Michael Gove | 488 c42 (Link to this contribution) There is no need for the Secretary of State to ask me that when he could have rung me at any time in...
Ed Balls | 488 c42-3 (Link to this contribution) It was interesting to find out that when the Leader of the Opposition said that the schools budget w...
Michael Gove | 488 c43 (Link to this contribution) I mentioned the Secretary of State's partisan zeal earlier. Having found that one of his foxes has b...
Parmjit Dhanda | 488 c43 (Link to this contribution) There does seem to have been something of a volte-face in the Opposition's policy, but if that is th...
David Chaytor | 488 c41 (Link to this contribution) To return to the point about graduates, is the hon. Gentleman saying that today's graduates are less...
Michael Gove | 488 c40-1 (Link to this contribution) Kazakhstan did better than us and I thought that was worrying. If the Minister is relaxed about that...
Dari Taylor | 488 c42 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman is saying that pre-school support and nursery care are so important why are we...
Michael Gove | 488 c41 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely not. As well as welcoming the creation of Ofqual, I welcome the provisions on Ofsted and ...
Ed Balls | 488 c42 (Link to this contribution) The last time we discussed these matters, the Opposition's position was that although they would pro...
Michael Gove | 488 c42 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady, for whom I have great respect and affection, asks ““Why am I left with this statement...
David Chaytor | 488 c40 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman really believes that the examples that he quoted give an accurate picture of s...
Michael Gove | 488 c40 (Link to this contribution) It is interesting that the hon. Gentleman mentions universities, because I am worried by the extent ...
Barry Sheerman | 488 c40 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has given the House some worrying examples of people who think that standards hav...
Michael Gove | 488 c40 (Link to this contribution) I entirely take the Chairman's point. It is because I want to give parents a degree of confidence th...
Lord Knight of Weymouth | 488 c40 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman thinks that it is important to celebrate the success of students, why did he n...
Michael Gove | 488 c38-9 (Link to this contribution) I certainly believe that what we need is more good comprehensive schools. One of the striking featur...
Michael Gove | 488 c39-40 (Link to this contribution) That is genuinely helpful. I do not believe that a wider role is necessarily required, but it is imp...
David Laws | 488 c39 (Link to this contribution) I am interested that the Secretary of State is amused by the question, because I was citing the Gove...
Michael Gove | 488 c39 (Link to this contribution) I notice that the Secretary of State looks curious. I too find the question curious, because it lack...
David Laws | 488 c39 (Link to this contribution) Can the hon. Gentleman clarify the position that his party intends to take on how independent Ofqual...
Michael Gove | 488 c46 (Link to this contribution) I am going to try to make a little progress.
Lord Boswell of Aynho | 488 c46 (Link to this contribution) May we go back to a point touched on a little while ago? The Secretary of State was saying that ther...
Kelvin Hopkins | 488 c46 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has talked about the private sector providing apprenticeships. Is it not a fact t...
Michael Gove | 488 c46 (Link to this contribution) It is an interesting issue. The hon. Gentleman will be aware of the fact—he may lament it—that there...
Michael Gove | 488 c45 (Link to this contribution) It is indeed shameful that we are moving back, but we are delighted that the Government, whenever th...
Speaker | 488 c45 (Link to this contribution) Order. It would be helpful if any interventions were made in the normal way.
Ed Balls | 488 c45 (Link to this contribution) I was saying that the hon. Gentleman should apologise for the fact that between 1979 and 1997 we had...
Michael Gove | 488 c45 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Secretary of State, but that still leaves us 5,000 down on the number of appren...
John Redwood | 488 c44 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that one of the problems with the Government's approach is that they think...
Michael Gove | 488 c44-5 (Link to this contribution) As ever, my right hon. Friend is bang on the button. Talking of quangocracy will inevitably draw the...
Lord Knight of Weymouth | 488 c43 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the hon. Gentleman, who is being extremely generous, both with his time and in...
Michael Gove | 488 c43-4 (Link to this contribution) I am given to understand by an hon. Friend that the Minister did write to me—[Interruption.] —as did...
Michael Gove | 488 c43 (Link to this contribution) I would like to make a bit of progress, but of course I give way to the Minister.
Michael Gove | 488 c43 (Link to this contribution) I take the hon. Gentleman's point. We are committed to ensuring that we fully support Sure Start chi...
Ed Balls | 488 c50 (Link to this contribution) At 3.20, I received a letter from the chair of the Independent Academies Association, Mr. Mike Butle...
Speaker | 488 c50 (Link to this contribution) Order. The Secretary of State had the chance to speak. I am conscious of the time that Front Bencher...
Michael Gove | 488 c50-1 (Link to this contribution) If hon. Members want to find out the view of the Independent Academies Association, they can read th...
Gordon Marsden | 488 c51-4 (Link to this contribution) I warmly welcome this Bill, which is very much a continuation of the Education and Skills Bill of 20...
Gordon Marsden | 488 c54-6 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. If we were starting from point zero, we might take ...
David Laws | 488 c56-7 (Link to this contribution) I would like to start where the Secretary of State began, by paying tribute to Lord Dearing and the ...
Kelvin Hopkins | 488 c57 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman dismisses much of the Bill as of little consequence, but does he not accept that ...
Parmjit Dhanda | 488 c50 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the fact that the hon. Gentleman is waxing lyrical about academies and I welcome his suppo...
Michael Gove | 488 c50 (Link to this contribution) I know that the hon. Gentleman is a friend of educational excellence and I know that he appreciates ...
Michael Gove | 488 c48-50 (Link to this contribution) I have listened to what the Secretary of State says, but he should visit Thomas Tomlinscote school i...
Michael Gove | 488 c47 (Link to this contribution) The figures come from the Government and the House of Lords Economic Affairs Committee. I entirely a...
Michael Gove | 488 c47 (Link to this contribution) All right; the hon. Gentleman is, after all, the Chair of the Children, Schools and Families Committ...
Barry Sheerman | 488 c47 (Link to this contribution) The Select Committee took evidence on the number of apprentices, so it is important that the hon. Ge...
John Denham | 488 c48 (Link to this contribution) I have resisted intervening on a number of tendentious facts and claims uttered by the hon. Gentlema...
Michael Gove | 488 c47 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that my hon. Friend will add to that point.
Lord Boswell of Aynho | 488 c47 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend, who has been most generous with his time. Does he remember that the...
David Laws | 488 c57 (Link to this contribution) We will see in time how radical they really are. What I am suggesting is that if we look at the real...
David Laws | 488 c57-9 (Link to this contribution) Yes, 256. I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his usual pithiness and focus. I want to focus on thr...
Nick Gibb | 488 c66 (Link to this contribution) If the QCA has done such a good job to date in maintaining standards in our public examination syste...
Barry Sheerman | 488 c64-6 (Link to this contribution) I wish to add my voice to those who have mentioned the sad death of Lord Dearing—or Ron, as I knew h...
Barry Sheerman | 488 c66 (Link to this contribution) I was about to come to that point. There has been debate about the political independence of the QCA...
David Laws | 488 c59-60 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is exactly right. The Secretary of State seemed to get the wrong end of the stick...
Graham Stuart | 488 c59 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for what the hon. Gentleman has just said, because it gives the lie to what the Secret...
David Laws | 488 c60-3 (Link to this contribution) I believe that the problems so far have included not only the degree of independence, or perceived i...
Nick Gibb | 488 c60 (Link to this contribution) Why does the hon. Gentleman think the QCA's regulatory function has not so far succeeded in maintain...
Ed Balls | 488 c30 (Link to this contribution) I will not give the details of that statutory guidance today. However, I will ensure that the guidan...
Paul Truswell | 488 c32 (Link to this contribution) Apprenticeships obviously represent an incredibly important process, but it is important that appren...
Ed Balls | 488 c32 (Link to this contribution) That is what the diplomas do, by ensuring that schools work together with colleges to ensure that th...
Alison Seabeck | 488 c32 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is talking about widening opportunities, so will he ensure that all schools sup...
Ed Balls | 488 c31 (Link to this contribution) The name is being changed because of representations from the sector, which is keen that the word ““...
Angela Watkinson | 488 c31 (Link to this contribution) A moment ago the Secretary of State referred to short-stay schools, which I assume will be taking ov...
Ed Balls | 488 c31 (Link to this contribution) I am coming to apprenticeships in a second. First, however, let me praise the work being done by Act...
Barry Sheerman | 488 c67 (Link to this contribution) Could the hon. Gentleman wait for me to finish my point? There is an argument that we should have a...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 488 c67 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has much experience in the area. Does he agree that one of the real problems with...
Barry Sheerman | 488 c67 (Link to this contribution) In our long relationship, that is probably the most helpful thing that the hon. Gentleman has ever s...
Barry Sheerman | 488 c67 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way to the hon. Gentleman, because he has had so much time to speak.
Barry Sheerman | 488 c67 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way to the hon. Gentleman; I will give way only to Back Benchers. The hon. Member f...
Nick Gibb | 488 c67 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way on that point?
David Lammy | 488 c75 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a good point. That is why I hope that his hon. Friends on the Front Bench w...
John Bercow | 488 c75-6 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman credits me with a level of detailed knowledge of the precise thought processes an...
Sharon Hodgson | 488 c76-9 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to be able to speak in this Second Reading debate. You may be pleased to hear, Madam De...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 488 c73 (Link to this contribution) As ever, the hon. Gentleman is making a powerful case. Five years ago, I suspect that I would not ha...
John Bercow | 488 c73-5 (Link to this contribution) I confess that I am uncertain about whether the overall effect of the organisational changes will be...
David Laws | 488 c75 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the hon. Gentleman, but I thought that what I heard from his Front Bench was a commitme...
John Bercow | 488 c75 (Link to this contribution) My impression was that my hon. Friend the shadow Secretary of State had made a commitment to the cen...
John Bercow | 488 c73 (Link to this contribution) The short answer to the hon. Gentleman is yes. The children's trust should have the responsibility t...
Robert Flello | 488 c72-3 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way during what is, as usual, an eloquent and pe...
John Bercow | 488 c70-2 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the Chair of the Children, Schools and Families Committee, the hon. Membe...
Annette Brooke | 488 c72 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way and for making some of the points that he is making. Does ...
Barry Sheerman | 488 c69-70 (Link to this contribution) I thank my right hon. Friend for that; it leads nicely to my conclusion. I want to put my remarks in...
Roberta Blackman-Woods | 488 c68-9 (Link to this contribution) I hear what my hon. Friend says, but would he accept that there was similar concern when primary car...
Barry Sheerman | 488 c69 (Link to this contribution) This is one of the first times that my hon. Friend and I have disagreed about anything in public. Th...
Graham Stuart | 488 c68 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to the Chairman of the Select Committee. Does he agree that something else i...
Barry Sheerman | 488 c68 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a good point— I mean the hon. Gentleman; it is hard to get that right when Oppo...
Graham Stuart | 488 c67 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way to me?
John Bercow | 488 c106 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that if support for Sure Start children's centres was important and benefi...
Graham Stuart | 488 c104-6 (Link to this contribution) I hear what my hon. Friend says, but I remain unconvinced. Children's trusts need a budget if they a...
Shona McIsaac | 488 c106-8 (Link to this contribution) It is always interesting to follow the hon. Member for Beverley and Holderness (Mr. Stuart), but I w...
Graham Stuart | 488 c106 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree. There are rare occasions of consensus across the House, and I am sure we can all a...
Edward Timpson | 488 c102 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend mentioned the shortages in the apprenticeship market in particular sectors. Does he a...
Graham Stuart | 488 c101-2 (Link to this contribution) The Minister knows full well that when the Conservatives were in power, apprenticeships were real ap...
John Bercow | 488 c104 (Link to this contribution) Operating in separate silos produces misunderstandings, causes division and is invariably bewilderin...
Dai Davies | 488 c108-10 (Link to this contribution) We are coming to the end of the debate and a number of Members still want to speak, so I will be as ...
Roberta Blackman-Woods | 488 c110-2 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the Bill and believe that it will further solidify the Government's work on skills, appren...
Kelvin Hopkins | 488 c112-4 (Link to this contribution) I am short of time, so I shall concentrate on my main theme, which is sixth-form colleges. I greatly...
Gordon Marsden | 488 c120-1 (Link to this contribution) Is it not possible that my right hon. Friend is being a little unkind to the Opposition Front-Bench ...
John Denham | 488 c119-20 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to reply to the debate. I apologise to my hon. Friends and to Opposition Members if...
Lord Willetts | 488 c117-9 (Link to this contribution) FE colleges certainly want the freedoms that we gave them in 1992 and they certainly want to engage ...
Roberta Blackman-Woods | 488 c117 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful, but does the hon. Gentleman not accept that what FE colleges want are the freedoms gi...
Lord Willetts | 488 c117 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I can tell the Secretary of State about my experience at the North of England Education Conf...
Lord Willetts | 488 c114-7 (Link to this contribution) We have had a very useful debate. One of the pleasures of this debate has been that the two Departme...
Michael Jabez Foster | 488 c114 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the opportunity to make the briefest of comments, particularly as I have not been ...
John Denham | 488 c121 (Link to this contribution) Whatever is the case, the Opposition are in some confusion on this issue. The hon. Member for Surrey...
John Denham | 488 c122-3 (Link to this contribution) What the hon. Gentleman needs to understand is that what matters—this is very important—is the numbe...
Lord Willetts | 488 c121-2 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State appears not to recognise a statistic from his own Department's statistical re...
John Denham | 488 c123 (Link to this contribution) This is an important measure and it will take forward the skills agenda—[Laughter.] It will take it ...
Lord Willetts | 488 c123 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State let us know whether that right is one of the measures that will be revie...
Lord Boswell of Aynho | 488 c79-81 (Link to this contribution) May I begin with a brief tribute to Lord Dearing, to whom I referred in my intervention? I had some ...
Graham Stuart | 488 c81-2 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend serves on the Innovation, Universities, Science and Skills Committee, while I serve o...
Mary Creagh | 488 c86 (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Gentleman says, we share a birthday. However, our political opinions diverge. Why was th...
Lord Boswell of Aynho | 488 c85-6 (Link to this contribution) Not many hon. Members will know that the hon. Lady and I share a birthday, although not the same yea...
Mary Creagh | 488 c84-5 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Daventry (Mr. Boswell), who managed to avoid party po...
Lord Boswell of Aynho | 488 c82-4 (Link to this contribution) I notice the Minister nodding; I think that we might have reached a common understanding. There is ...
Mary Creagh | 488 c85 (Link to this contribution) I give way to the man who may have been responsible.
Mary Creagh | 488 c87-90 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for that point. The Government of the time must have known about employers' u...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 488 c90-1 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Member for Wakefield (Mary Creagh) on her application for a ministerial post...
Mary Creagh | 488 c86-7 (Link to this contribution) I look forward to debating that in Committee and I thank my hon. Friend for making the point. As a t...
Sharon Hodgson | 488 c87 (Link to this contribution) Some unscrupulous employers gave young people one YTS after another—I know that from my brothers' ex...
Alison Seabeck | 488 c86 (Link to this contribution) I listened to my hon. Friend's story about the woman whose daughter is NEET. Does my hon. Friend acc...
Graham Stuart | 488 c92-3 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, who pretty well makes my point for me about the irony of the Bi...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 488 c92 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a good point, in his usual erudite way. These are the kind of issues on whi...
John Bercow | 488 c92 (Link to this contribution) If the Bill were not to do what it certainly should do—and what has just been advocated by the hon. ...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 488 c92 (Link to this contribution) That goes without saying. Sadly, the hon. Lady has put her finger on a problem that the Government h...
Alison Seabeck | 488 c91 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman says that he wants apprenticeship certificates to represent the gold standard. Do...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 488 c93-4 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is quite right. It flies in the face of what the Bill is trying to achieve within...
John Bercow | 488 c94 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman allow me?
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 488 c94 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman will allow me, I will just finish my plea. Ministers are acutely aware of the ...
John Bercow | 488 c94 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman's important point underlines the danger of an excessive and insistent localism th...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 488 c94-5 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for that intervention. Indeed, that was precisely the point that...
David Chaytor | 488 c95-6 (Link to this contribution) This is a diverse Bill and the debate has therefore been interesting because hon. Members have broug...
David Chaytor | 488 c97 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I am, but to a large extent that is what we already have. On my visit to my local Connexions se...
Lord Willetts | 488 c97 (Link to this contribution) Does not the hon. Gentleman think that he is making an excellent case for a proper independent caree...
David Chaytor | 488 c97-9 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has made a very important point. I was not aware of that, but it underlines the n...
John Bercow | 488 c97 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way, because he is dealing with an important issue. I...
Graham Stuart | 488 c100 (Link to this contribution) It is why the school curriculum has been dumbed down, why our society has grown more unequal, and wh...
Graham Stuart | 488 c99 (Link to this contribution) It is a great pleasure to take part in this debate. Nearly all the speeches so far have been thought...
Graham Stuart | 488 c100 (Link to this contribution) I will give way in a few minutes. The Bill makes promises that cannot be kept, claims to simplify w...
Graham Stuart | 488 c100 (Link to this contribution) For this legislation is a mishmash of poorly considered, unco-ordinated initiatives—more dog's dinne...
Sion Simon | 488 c101 (Link to this contribution) If apprenticeships are as important to the hon. Gentleman as he has tried to convince us they are, w...
Graham Stuart | 488 c100-1 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has only recently entered the Chamber, so I do not think it would be appropriate ...
Michael Gove | 488 c37-8 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree with my hon. Friend. I am not in favour of sterile debates. Indeed, I am not in fav...
Michael Gove | 488 c46 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a very good point. I am not against the additional provision of apprenticeship ...
Nick Hurd | 488 c30 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State will recognise the extraordinary work that charities such as Action for Child...
Ed Balls | 488 c32 (Link to this contribution) As my hon. Friend will know, we have raised the minimum pay for apprentices from £80 to £95; that wi...
Lord Boswell of Aynho | 488 c82 (Link to this contribution) I strongly endorse that comment. I have never been happy about the split. I know that there are reas...
Ed Balls | 488 c24 (Link to this contribution) I want to turn to those reforms in detail, but first I shall take the hon. Gentleman's intervention....
Dari Taylor | 488 c33 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend will know that the chemical process industry on Teesside will require 24,000 hi...
Barry Sheerman | 488 c46 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Michael Gove | 488 c45 (Link to this contribution) That intervention can stand without my saying anything more. It stands in its own right as a reflect...
Ed Balls | 488 c45 (Link to this contribution) The answer is 1,000 more apprenticeships by the end of next financial year.
John Hayes | 488 c54 (Link to this contribution) As ever, the hon. Gentleman is making a measured and well-informed speech. In the light of what he h...
Michael Gove | 488 c47-8 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely none, and I fear that this reorganisation may lead only to greater bureaucratic overload....
Barry Sheerman | 488 c67 (Link to this contribution) No. I am not giving way to Front Benchers; they get far too great a share of speaking time in the Ch...
John Bercow | 488 c72 (Link to this contribution) I certainly do agree with that. If there is no obvious point of accountability, it is not clear wher...
Lord Knight of Weymouth | 488 c69 (Link to this contribution) I am staggered at my hon. Friend's generosity in allowing me to intervene from the Front Bench, with...
Graham Stuart | 488 c102-4 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. He will be aware of the proposals by our party for a transformat...
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