Borders, Citizenship and Immigration Bill (HL). Second reading debate. Agreed to on question. Programme motion on proceedings in Committee, on Report, Third reading and any other proceedings. Agreed to on question. Queen's recommendation signified. Money resolution agreed to on question. Ways and means resolution agreed to on question.
[Relevant document: The Ninth Report from the Joint Committee on Human Rights, Legislative Scrutiny: Borders, Citizenship and Immigration Bill, HC 375.]
Borders, Citizenship and Immigration Bill [Lords]
Debate on bills on Tuesday, 2 June 2009,
in the House of Commons,
led by Baroness Smith of Malvern.
The answering
member was Lord Grayling.
About these Parliamentary proceedings
Reference
493 c169-241 Session
2008-09Legislative stage
Second readingChamber / Committee
House of Commons chamberRelated items
Borders, Citizenship and Immigration Bill (HL). Brought from the Lords. Explanatory Notes Bill 86-En also published.
Thursday, 23 April 2009
Bills
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Thursday, 23 April 2009
Bills
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Legislative scrutiny: Borders, Citizenship and Immigration Bill. Human Rights Joint Select Committee ninth report with formal minutes and evidence.
Tuesday, 24 March 2009
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Tuesday, 24 March 2009
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House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Keith Vaz | 493 c183 (Link to this contribution)
When the Home Affairs Committee considered the issue, we were concerned that there is no list of acc...
Lord Grayling | 493 c182-3 (Link to this contribution)
In this country, we have a piecemeal approach to policing our borders, with a pocket of policing her...
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Lord Deben | 493 c183 (Link to this contribution)
Before my hon. Friend leaves that point, is this not another example of serious issues that affect t...
Lord Grayling | 493 c183 (Link to this contribution)
The Home Affairs Committee Chairman makes a very good point. I agree with him that input from Parlia...
Robert Key | 493 c184 (Link to this contribution)
On consideration of the timetable motion later today, will my hon. Friend make absolutely sure that ...
Lord Grayling | 493 c184 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a good point. Since the Secretary of State has announced a new range of policie...
Stephen Pound | 493 c183 (Link to this contribution)
It is perhaps salutary to note that until my hon. Friend the Member for North-East Derbyshire (Natas...
Lord Grayling | 493 c183 (Link to this contribution)
I absolutely agree with my right hon. Friend. I think that we need less legislation done well rather...
Desmond Swayne | 493 c184 (Link to this contribution)
A few moments ago, the Secretary of State was asking my hon. Friend from a sedentary position whethe...
Lord Grayling | 493 c183 (Link to this contribution)
I do indeed. I would go further and strengthen those requirements. However, one small piece of succe...
Speaker | 493 c169 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I say to the hon. Gentleman that you asked for an explanation and the Home Secretary is givin...
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c169 (Link to this contribution)
We are already issuing ID cards for foreign nationals—
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c169 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, that is what I am going to do.
Over the past couple of years, we have made real progress in th...
Desmond Swayne | 493 c169 (Link to this contribution)
What has that got to do with this Bill?
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c169 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.
This Bill introduces measures to help compl...
Desmond Swayne | 493 c169 (Link to this contribution)
Am I am alone in suspecting that this is an entirely content-free Bill? Will the Home Secretary expl...
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c175 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is right that clause 39 was inserted in the other place to deal with transitional...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 493 c175 (Link to this contribution)
May I welcome the statement that my right hon. Friend has just made, but also ask her to develop her...
Robert Key | 493 c174 (Link to this contribution)
British immigration policy must be tough, but it must also be fair. Clause 39 refers to exceptions t...
Keith Vaz | 493 c175-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful to the Home Secretary for giving way to me a second time. Is she telling the Hous...
Keith Vaz | 493 c175 (Link to this contribution)
Will the right hon. Lady give way?
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c175 (Link to this contribution)
I know that my right hon. Friend has done a lot of work on this subject, and I think that he is righ...
Damian Green | 493 c176 (Link to this contribution)
To be entirely clear, is the Home Secretary saying that even if a number of people have gone through...
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c176 (Link to this contribution)
What I have said is that while I do not think an arbitrary cap on entry, as proposed by Conservative...
Lembit Opik | 493 c172 (Link to this contribution)
I am listening to the Home Secretary's argument, but would she accept that the increasingly rules-ba...
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c172 (Link to this contribution)
I think that it is a good thing to reduce the numerous routes that previously existed and have a cle...
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c172-3 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that my hon. Friend has had the opportunity to register in and to see the operation of IRIS, ...
Baroness Hoey | 493 c172 (Link to this contribution)
In making all those changes to our border controls, would the Home Secretary consider creating a new...
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c173 (Link to this contribution)
I will give way to my hon. Friend in a moment.
I would also like to set out the Government's intent...
Andrew Mackinlay | 493 c173 (Link to this contribution)
Will my right hon. Friend give way?
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c173-4 (Link to this contribution)
That issue is not about the CTA. There are strong constraints, particularly in the EU, on which peop...
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c174 (Link to this contribution)
There was considerable discussion on this issue in another place. I certainly think that we need to ...
Fiona Mactaggart | 493 c174 (Link to this contribution)
The Home Secretary talks about a deal between a migrant seeking citizenship and the state that award...
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c170 (Link to this contribution)
Free movement, and its relationship to trade and the free market, is an important element of our mem...
Keith Vaz | 493 c171-2 (Link to this contribution)
What the Home Secretary has said is helpful. However, if what she outlines is not also done with the...
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c171 (Link to this contribution)
If my hon. Friend believes that that person acted inappropriately, and he wants to write to me about...
Andrew Mackinlay | 493 c171 (Link to this contribution)
May I raise with the Home Secretary my dismay when arriving at Belfast city airport on parliamentary...
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c171 (Link to this contribution)
No, I want to make a little more progress.
We now have more people working to secure our borders th...
Lembit Opik | 493 c171 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Home Secretary give way?
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c171 (Link to this contribution)
No, I believe that the minimum wage in this country protects wage levels. I agree with my hon. Frien...
Colin Burgon | 493 c171 (Link to this contribution)
Does my right hon. Friend agree that the free movement of labour is effectively another term for an ...
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c172 (Link to this contribution)
I know that my hon. Friend the Minister for Borders and Immigration was before my right hon. Friend'...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 493 c170 (Link to this contribution)
Before that interruption, the Home Secretary was talking about the impact of the Government's points...
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c170 (Link to this contribution)
Today is obviously a day for the wagging of fingers, but perhaps if the hon. Gentleman looked at the...
John Redwood | 493 c170 (Link to this contribution)
Does the Home Secretary believe that there should be some sort of limit on how many people come into...
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c170 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, I can assure my right hon. Friend that I will take the opportunity to develop that argument and...
Speaker | 493 c169 (Link to this contribution)
That is a matter for debate.
Desmond Swayne | 493 c169 (Link to this contribution)
But not of this Bill, Sir.
Gerald Howarth | 493 c169-70 (Link to this contribution)
The Home Secretary has sought to persuade the House that somehow the Government have suddenly woken ...
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c169 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The hon. Gentleman has had lunch, but he did not have coffee.
We are alread...
Rob Marris | 493 c170 (Link to this contribution)
My understanding is that approximately 80 per cent. of the people who move to this country are resid...
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c170 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, I believe that we should control migration to the benefit of this country. That is why the poin...
Lord Grayling | 493 c181-2 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend is absolutely right about bad management; I shall come to talk about the polici...
Albert Owen | 493 c182 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman says that he has been round the ports, but I am not sure that he has been to the ...
Lord Grayling | 493 c180-1 (Link to this contribution)
There are many people who are living and working in this country at the moment. I believe that peopl...
Desmond Swayne | 493 c179 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend read any significance into the fact that after having announced the new policy o...
Jeremy Corbyn | 493 c180 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman will be aware that there are many people in this country who have been here for q...
Lord Grayling | 493 c180 (Link to this contribution)
We will have a cap for the United Kingdom as a whole—we have not reached the point of having a Scott...
Pete Wishart | 493 c179 (Link to this contribution)
As the hon. Gentleman will know, in Scotland we face structural population decline, not population i...
Lord Grayling | 493 c179 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is right, and I have a sneaking suspicion that the next Home Secretary may not be as ...
Lord Deben | 493 c179 (Link to this contribution)
Will my hon. Friend help me by explaining to the House why imposing a limit on the number of people ...
Rob Marris | 493 c178 (Link to this contribution)
May I ask the hon. Gentleman the same question that I asked my right hon. Friend the Home Secretary?...
Lord Grayling | 493 c178 (Link to this contribution)
As the hon. Gentleman knows, we have always argued for transitional arrangements for new member stat...
Rob Marris | 493 c178 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman has misunderstood my question. I am not talking about transitional arrangements. ...
Lord Grayling | 493 c178-9 (Link to this contribution)
No, I do not think we are going to look again at the free movement of labour within the EU. However,...
Lynne Jones | 493 c177 (Link to this contribution)
Will my right hon. Friend give way?
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c177 (Link to this contribution)
Building on a comprehensive programme of immigration reform, the Bill introduces measures to make ou...
Lord Grayling | 493 c177-8 (Link to this contribution)
It is probably appropriate for me to begin by marking what now appears to be the Home Secretary's fi...
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c177 (Link to this contribution)
These are firm measures, but they are fair. They get the balance right, and they have at their heart...
Jeremy Corbyn | 493 c177 (Link to this contribution)
Will Home Secretary give way?
Jeremy Corbyn | 493 c177 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Home Secretary give way?
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c177 (Link to this contribution)
Furthermore, we have successfully put in place a points-based system—using, incidentally, immigratio...
Neil Gerrard | 493 c177 (Link to this contribution)
May I return the Home Secretary to what she said about a points-based system for citizenship? What s...
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c177 (Link to this contribution)
What I said was that the Bill gives us the framework for earned citizenship. It spells out the perio...
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c177 (Link to this contribution)
I give way to my hon. Friend the Member for Walthamstow (Mr. Gerrard).
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c176 (Link to this contribution)
No. I must make a little more progress now.
That is why the Bill includes important provisions to e...
Neil Gerrard | 493 c176 (Link to this contribution)
Will my right hon. Friend give way?
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c176 (Link to this contribution)
The question that Conservative Members need to answer is whether they think it is now appropriate to...
Charles Walker | 493 c223 (Link to this contribution)
I could well be. If I were, what would I do to allow people to earn citizenship? I would have four s...
Julie Morgan | 493 c223-4 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Broxbourne (Mr. Walker).
I should like to start by p...
Neil Gerrard | 493 c224 (Link to this contribution)
I am listening to what my hon. Friend is saying and I agree with all of it. Is she clear about wheth...
Charles Walker | 493 c220-2 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you for calling me to speak in this debate, Madam Deputy Speaker. This is the third immigratio...
Phil Woolas | 493 c234-5 (Link to this contribution)
I thank hon. Members across the House for their contributions to the debate, which have revealed a g...
Alistair Burt | 493 c226-9 (Link to this contribution)
First, I apologise to the Home Secretary and to my hon. Friend the Member for Epsom and Ewell (Chris...
Julie Morgan | 493 c224-6 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend. That is certainly an important point, and I hope that the Minister will clar...
Damian Green | 493 c229-34 (Link to this contribution)
This has been a fascinating debate and, particularly given the revelations of my hon. Friend the Mem...
Alison Seabeck | 493 c229 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise to hon. Members for coming late to this debate. I have been in the Committee considering...
Keith Vaz | 493 c206 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way a second time. Of course, he will know that it wa...
Nigel Evans | 493 c207-9 (Link to this contribution)
The tabloids used them as an example of what was happening. Clearly, a lot of other skilled people c...
Kerry McCarthy | 493 c206 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman join me in condemning UKIP for its policy of putting huge billboards in area...
Nigel Evans | 493 c206 (Link to this contribution)
I know exactly what UKIP is doing, but I believe that the Government are partly responsible for not ...
Albert Owen | 493 c212 (Link to this contribution)
We have discussed this before. If the new measures on immigration control and everything else are in...
Albert Owen | 493 c209-11 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Ribble Valley (Mr. Evans). I am sure that if he sat t...
Simon Hughes | 493 c211-2 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that like me, the hon. Gentleman is a good rugby supporter. Many teams are all-Ireland teams,...
Nigel Evans | 493 c205-6 (Link to this contribution)
I will come back to that point in a moment. I just think that we should have been on an even keel wi...
Keith Vaz | 493 c205 (Link to this contribution)
I am surprised at the hon. Gentleman for saying that. Does he not believe that since enlargement the...
Nigel Evans | 493 c205 (Link to this contribution)
And Bulgaria. We have derogations in those cases, and I still think that we should have had derogati...
Pete Wishart | 493 c216-7 (Link to this contribution)
Absolutely. I do welcome that provision, but let us just do it; let us not just talk about it and in...
Phil Woolas | 493 c217 (Link to this contribution)
I am listening carefully to the hon. Gentleman, and I understand the sentiment. We have run projects...
Pete Wishart | 493 c217 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for those remarks, and I agree about the challenges and problems that ...
Damian Green | 493 c217 (Link to this contribution)
I rise as a constituency Member, because the alternative-to-detention project that the Government st...
Pete Wishart | 493 c217-8 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to both Front-Bench spokesmen for their views on the matter, because it is important t...
Alasdair McDonnell | 493 c218-20 (Link to this contribution)
Much has been said, and I have a few comments to make. This is a Bill about which I and my party hav...
Phil Woolas | 493 c214-5 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry the hon. Gentleman is ridiculing the fish filleters. We included that profession in respo...
Pete Wishart | 493 c215-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for that positive contribution. I hope he is sincere. I would be delig...
Keith Vaz | 493 c200 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. If only we could be guaranteed that—but there is clearly a w...
David Heath | 493 c200 (Link to this contribution)
I suppose that I should admire the right hon. Gentleman's loyalty in supporting all those Bills, but...
Jeremy Corbyn | 493 c199-200 (Link to this contribution)
Does my right hon. Friend share my experience of being inundated with visitors to the advice bureau ...
Tom Brake | 493 c197 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that the hon. Member for Walthamstow (Mr. Gerrard) has already identified ...
Chris Huhne | 493 c197-8 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for making that point. He is absolutely correct.
Part 3 of the Bill...
Jeremy Corbyn | 493 c196 (Link to this contribution)
While the hon. Gentleman is talking about amendments, may I remind him of my intervention on my hon....
Chris Huhne | 493 c196-7 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for raising that. He will certainly have our support if he inten...
Chris Huhne | 493 c195-6 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister is simply failing to get the point. We do not need to build a massive database of the t...
Nigel Evans | 493 c204-5 (Link to this contribution)
It is always a delight to follow the right hon. Member for Leicester, East (Keith Vaz), the Chairman...
Pete Wishart | 493 c205 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman would have already failed that test. It is not Scottish "gay-lic" but Scottish Ga...
Nigel Evans | 493 c205 (Link to this contribution)
That says it all. My error would mean that I could not go and live in Scotland, and the hon. Gentlem...
Tom Brake | 493 c203 (Link to this contribution)
I think that the right hon. Gentleman was about to conclude, but before he moves off the subject of ...
Keith Vaz | 493 c203 (Link to this contribution)
I am happy to have given way to a member of the Select Committee. He is right in what he says, and i...
Kerry McCarthy | 493 c204 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my right hon. Friend for giving way just as he was about to rise to a crescendo at the end o...
Keith Vaz | 493 c204 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is right. We have to have rules—not everyone can arrive and suddenly become a British...
Keith Vaz | 493 c201-3 (Link to this contribution)
We frequently go to Croydon, but we do not necessarily get to see what we ought to see; I have found...
Chris Huhne | 493 c201 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman's proposal is extremely interesting. Will he suggest to his Committee that ...
Jeremy Corbyn | 493 c190-1 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend for giving way a second time. Does he share my concern that the Democratic Re...
Neil Gerrard | 493 c190 (Link to this contribution)
That is absolutely right. I always thought it perfectly sensible for there to be a single appeal. Th...
Keith Vaz | 493 c190 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend has been here long enough to remember previous immigration Bills in which the Governm...
Chris Huhne | 493 c191-3 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to be able to follow the hon. Member for Walthamstow (Mr. Gerrard), whose expertise in...
Neil Gerrard | 493 c191 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend for that intervention. There is evidence that that has happened in returns to...
Lynne Jones | 493 c191 (Link to this contribution)
A young woman from the Democratic Republic of the Congo, who was living in my constituency, is await...
Neil Gerrard | 493 c191 (Link to this contribution)
There are a lot of examples of dubious decisions about where it is safe or not safe to return people...
David Heath | 493 c193 (Link to this contribution)
He was not right about the numbers.
Chris Huhne | 493 c193 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman was clearly asleep earlier in my speech, because I gave the precise figures. Some...
Nigel Evans | 493 c193 (Link to this contribution)
I hear what the hon. Gentleman says, but is not part of the problem, and part of the reason for the ...
Phil Woolas | 493 c194 (Link to this contribution)
I am genuinely grateful to the hon. Gentleman, who is making a superb speech and analysis. I plead w...
Chris Huhne | 493 c193-4 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed, I corrected the hon. Gentleman's numbers; I thank my hon. Friend.
If we are to maximise the...
Phil Woolas | 493 c194 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way and trying to inject some life into the debate, w...
Chris Huhne | 493 c194 (Link to this contribution)
How other countries apply their visa arrangements is up to them. I am merely making a common-sense p...
Phil Woolas | 493 c195 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Chris Huhne | 493 c195 (Link to this contribution)
I am astonished that the Minister has the effrontery to come to the House peddling that extraordinar...
Phil Woolas | 493 c195 (Link to this contribution)
I am very grateful that the Liberal Democrat party acknowledges the desirability of electronic borde...
Chris Huhne | 493 c195 (Link to this contribution)
I have given way so many times, but I cannot resist doing so again.
Lord Grayling | 493 c185 (Link to this contribution)
If there were only 1,600 sponsored institutions, the Government have reduced the total by about 100....
Phil Woolas | 493 c185 (Link to this contribution)
It is simply not the case that there were ever 15,000 institutions on any approved list. The Governm...
Lord Grayling | 493 c184-5 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure that the hon. Gentleman is very keen to discover Conservative policy, but we are dealing w...
Derek Twigg | 493 c184 (Link to this contribution)
I want to hear a bit more about the hon. Gentleman's capping policy. Has he any figures for the numb...
Lord Grayling | 493 c184 (Link to this contribution)
I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend. We need a tougher immigration system in this country and we ...
Neil Gerrard | 493 c186-7 (Link to this contribution)
I wish to begin by saying something about part 2 and its proposals on citizenship and naturalisation...
Lord Grayling | 493 c186 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Select Committee Chairman for that, and I hope that Ministers will look careful...
Phil Woolas | 493 c185 (Link to this contribution)
I invite the hon. Gentleman to do his homework. If he reads the evidence that was given to the Home ...
Neil Gerrard | 493 c187-8 (Link to this contribution)
That is a valid point. We are in danger of setting up some quite bureaucratic structures in order to...
Tom Brake | 493 c187 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman may also have received representations from voluntary organisations expressing th...
Neil Gerrard | 493 c188 (Link to this contribution)
I hope the Government will think again about the requirement. I suspect that it will be very difficu...
Phil Woolas | 493 c188 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a good point. At all stages in immigration policy, one has to predict where it ...
Neil Gerrard | 493 c187 (Link to this contribution)
I absolutely appreciate that point, but a different mechanism will apply in future when the indefini...
Neil Gerrard | 493 c188-9 (Link to this contribution)
I very much agree, and I shall come on to the point about destitution.
On the issue of transitional...
Lynne Jones | 493 c188 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend share my concerns that the Home Secretary did not address the recommendations ma...
Neil Gerrard | 493 c189-90 (Link to this contribution)
This would be an appropriate place to try to look for a solution to the Chagos islands problem, whic...
Jeremy Corbyn | 493 c189 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend will be aware that in the Lords there was discussion about an amendment to enable Cha...
Phil Woolas | 493 c240 (Link to this contribution)
No; I said that I would not give way again. I believe I have answered all the questions that have be...
Chris Huhne | 493 c240 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Jeremy Corbyn | 493 c240 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for giving way. He will have heard my interventions on the issue of the Chagos ...
Phil Woolas | 493 c240 (Link to this contribution)
If I have not answered my hon. Friend's point, I shall try to do so now.
Phil Woolas | 493 c239 (Link to this contribution)
I shall give way again, but I have been urged to conclude by everybody in the House, so I shall then...
Chris Huhne | 493 c239 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for giving way again. Many Members will be reassured if we can have so...
Phil Woolas | 493 c239-40 (Link to this contribution)
Those data will not. They are already collated—they have been for some time. If the hon. Gentleman r...
Chris Huhne | 493 c239 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister concede that while the e-border scheme is crucial to ensuring that there are no vi...
Phil Woolas | 493 c239 (Link to this contribution)
I have already urged the hon. Gentleman to think this through. First, we cannot operate in isolation...
Lord Grayling | 493 c239 (Link to this contribution)
May I press the Minister on the point about other countries? First, any other country is free to dec...
Phil Woolas | 493 c239 (Link to this contribution)
Through ignorance rather than deliberately I suspect, the hon. Gentleman is confusing the two issues...
Phil Woolas | 493 c236 (Link to this contribution)
Of course I understand that point, but a person on ILR does not get dual citizenship and cannot get ...
Damian Green | 493 c236 (Link to this contribution)
I am very glad to hear that last point and I look forward to the Home Secretary—or her successor—fol...
Phil Woolas | 493 c235 (Link to this contribution)
As ever, the expertise of the Select Committee Chairman helps me out. He makes a valid point, and I ...
Neil Gerrard | 493 c235 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister acknowledge that some people are perfectly happy to remain with the status of inde...
Phil Woolas | 493 c237-8 (Link to this contribution)
The Chairman of the Select Committee never misses an opportunity to raise this issue. Let me point o...
Phil Woolas | 493 c236 (Link to this contribution)
If the hon. Gentleman thinks that I am not familiar with those with indefinite leave to remain, I in...
Keith Vaz | 493 c236 (Link to this contribution)
I wonder whether my hon. Friend remembers my speech. In fact, I lamented the fact that we did not ha...
Phil Woolas | 493 c235 (Link to this contribution)
I give way to the Chairman of the Select Committee on Home Affairs.
Keith Vaz | 493 c235 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful. We must not forget the importance of Europol, which, under its new dynamic British di...
Stephen Pound | 493 c173 (Link to this contribution)
I am greatly reassured by my right hon. Friend's comments about the common travel arrangements. Will...
Julie Morgan | 493 c216 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman not agree that clause 57, which will put the welfare of the child first, is ...
Chris Huhne | 493 c194 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the Minister's intervention, but as far as I remember, only 60 per cent. will be a...
Phil Woolas | 493 c194 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the hon. Gentleman's acknowledgement: the figures are 60 per cent. this year and w...
Phil Woolas | 493 c187 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend speaks from great knowledge of his constituents. May I just reassure him that the pro...
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c175 (Link to this contribution)
No, I am in the process of completing my point. That is why the Government will bring forward propos...
John Redwood | 493 c181 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that one of the problems is that an awful lot of money and effort has gone...
Lord Grayling | 493 c179 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend's point speaks for itself. We have a Government who are all over the place in t...
Pete Wishart | 493 c212-4 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Ynys Môn (Albert Owen). Occasionally, I have used the...
Keith Vaz | 493 c186 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that the hon. Gentleman will read the evidence that the Minister gave to the Committee this m...
Lord Grayling | 493 c186 (Link to this contribution)
We will see about that.
Baroness Smith of Malvern | 493 c176 (Link to this contribution)
No, I said precisely the opposite. It is Conservative Members who believe that an arbitrary cap is t...
Keith Vaz | 493 c200 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is entirely right. If Lin Homer did not exist to sign the letters, we would have to i...
Keith Vaz | 493 c198-9 (Link to this contribution)
It is always a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Eastleigh (Chris Huhne), the shadow Liberal De...
Phil Woolas | 493 c240 (Link to this contribution)
At the moment, the policy of the Government is not to do so. I believe the Committee will wish to lo...
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