Violent Crime Reduction Bill. Lords Committee stage third day. Clauses 26 to 30, 32 to 56 agreed to, clauses 29, 32, 33, 35, 40, 41, 43, 46, 56 agreed to as amended. Clause 31 negatived. Schedule 3 agreed to. Schedule 2 and 4 agreed to as amended. Bill reported with amendments (HL Bill 112).
Violent Crime Reduction Bill
Committee of the Whole House (HL)
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Debate on bills on Monday, 22 May 2006,
in the House of Lords.
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Monson | 682 c647 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister said at the outset that the Government's policy was based on preventing guns migrating ...
Lord Marlesford | 682 c648 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Lord who has just spoken and my noble friends for their support. The Home...
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Lord Thomas of Gresford | 682 c647-8 (Link to this contribution)
The considerable merit of the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Marlesford, is that it is a ve...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 682 c601 (Link to this contribution)
Before my noble friend responds, I would like to add that I am grateful to the Minister for the info...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c596 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, on behalf of my noble friend Lady Scotland of Asthal, I beg to move that the House do now ...
Earl of Shrewsbury | 682 c596-7 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 119:"Page 29, line 21, at end insert—"
““( ) This section shall not apply ...
Lord Marlesford | 682 c597-8 (Link to this contribution)
I support my noble friend. This is another test of whether the Government are serious about deregula...
Earl Peel | 682 c598 (Link to this contribution)
Have the Government assessed the likely effect of this part of the Bill on retailers? Having listene...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 682 c598-9 (Link to this contribution)
My noble friend Lord Shrewsbury made some very valuable points in moving the amendment. It is import...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c599-601 (Link to this contribution)
I put on record my thanks to the noble Earl for tabling the amendment, because it usefully enables u...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c604-5 (Link to this contribution)
I read the noble Earl’s amendment again, and if it were one moved on almost any other Bill, or which...
Earl of Shrewsbury | 682 c605 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his words but I completely disagree with him. His approach involves a sever...
Earl of Shrewsbury | 682 c607-8 (Link to this contribution)
: I have given notice that I shall object to the Question that Clause 28 shall stand part of the Bil...
Earl of Shrewsbury | 682 c602 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for his response. I am pretty disappointed with what he has come up wi...
Earl of Shrewsbury | 682 c602-4 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 120:"Page 29, line 38, at end insert—"
““( ) This section shall not apply ...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 682 c604 (Link to this contribution)
We support the Government’s objective to ensure that the sale of air weapons is carried out in a res...
Earl Peel | 682 c604 (Link to this contribution)
I wonder whether I can have another go at the Minister on the question of the financial impact on th...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 682 c602 (Link to this contribution)
Obviously, the long debate we had beforehand has dulled my brain because I forgot to ask the Ministe...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c602 (Link to this contribution)
I omitted to answer the noble Baroness. We acknowledge that there could be some individual private s...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 682 c612 (Link to this contribution)
I have checked briefly with the Liberal Democrats and it seems that they will not move or speak to A...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 682 c616 (Link to this contribution)
Like my noble friend, I was grateful to the Government for accepting the existence of a defect in th...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c612-3 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Earl and the noble Baroness for their comments. I shall pass on the fact ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c613-4 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 124:"Page 31, line 25, leave out ““17”” and insert ““18””"
The noble Lord said:...
Baroness Harris of Richmond | 682 c614 (Link to this contribution)
On behalf of my noble friend Lord Thomas of Gresford, who is unable to be here at the moment, I shou...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 682 c614-5 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 124B:"Page 33, line 26, at end insert—"
““( ) Nothing in this section shal...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c615-6 (Link to this contribution)
I shall answer one point from the noble Lord, Lord Pearson of Rannoch, at the outset. It is simply t...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 682 c616 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful to the noble Lord, who may have been more helpful than he imagined, even beyond t...
Earl of Shrewsbury | 682 c616 (Link to this contribution)
I have given notice of my intention to oppose the Question that Clause 31 stand part of the Bill, bu...
Earl of Shrewsbury | 682 c611 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Lord for his words. I go along entirely with my noble friend on the Front...
Earl of Shrewsbury | 682 c611 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 121:"Page 30, line 39, after ““if”” insert ““, without lawful authority or reaso...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 682 c609-10 (Link to this contribution)
I am rather puzzled by the arguments that the Minister has adduced against my noble friend Lord Shre...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c610 (Link to this contribution)
I have put that point on the record today; I was the one who uttered the immortal words. I think tha...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c608 (Link to this contribution)
This clause is an important part of the whole package of measures that aims to tackle the problem of...
Earl Peel | 682 c608-9 (Link to this contribution)
I accept that this clause cannot be described as draconian. It is certainly not as contentious as so...
Earl Peel | 682 c610 (Link to this contribution)
I do not think that ““may well be”” is good enough. Is the Minister able to tell the Committee wheth...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c610-1 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Earl knows that we have not published information in that way. But it is a fair point to m...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 682 c610 (Link to this contribution)
I interrupt the Minister with great reticence. To state that there is a case is not the same as prov...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c610 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Baroness chides me, and I accept the reprimand. What we are trying to say is that we belie...
Earl of Shrewsbury | 682 c626-8 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 128:"Page 38, line 1, leave out ““In subsection (7) ““modern firearm”””” and ins...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 682 c628 (Link to this contribution)
I rise briefly to support my noble friend. My name is on the amendment. I know that at Second Readin...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c628 (Link to this contribution)
This amendment seeks to confine the definition of the term ““modern firearm”” to purposes connected ...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 682 c632-3 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for that commitment to review whether something needs to be done. I ac...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c628-9 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 128A:"Page 38, line 40, at end insert—"
““(5A) An imitation firearm brought in...
Earl of Shrewsbury | 682 c628 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful to the Minister for his constructive remarks, with which I am completely satisfie...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c630-2 (Link to this contribution)
I share the noble Baroness’s concern in tabling this new clause with the aim of ensuring that those ...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 682 c629-30 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 131:"Before Clause 38, insert the following new clause—"
““SENTENCE FOR OFFENC...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c616-7 (Link to this contribution)
As I am sure the noble Baroness and the noble Earl will accept, Ministers at all times attempt to be...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c626 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 127A and 127B:"Page 36, line 18, at end insert—"
““(2A) It shall also be a d...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c626 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 126A:"Page 36, line 18, at end insert—"
““(f) the purposes of functions that a...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c624-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Baroness for the courteous, thorough and thoughtful way in which she spok...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 682 c622-4 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome government Amendment No. 126, because it addresses the concern I raised at Second Reading ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c620-2 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 126:"Page 36, line 8, leave out ““that does not distribute any profits it makes”...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c619-20 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 125A:"Page 35, line 35, at end insert—"
““(6A) A realistic imitation firearm b...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 682 c619 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister says that the amendment is not necessary and that the Government will, of course, consu...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c618-9 (Link to this contribution)
I make it clear at the outset that we are more than happy to consult on the details of any regulatio...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c684-6 (Link to this contribution)
I, too, certainly understand the concern about happy slapping. It is an awful thing. The noble Baron...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c679 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 165:"Before Clause 51, insert the following new clause—"
““LIMITATION PERIOD F...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 682 c679-80 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 166:"Before Clause 51, insert the following new clause—"
““ANTI-SOCIAL BEHAVIO...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c676 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 164:"Page 47, line 15, at end insert—"
““(c) in paragraph (c), for ““Part I ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c676-9 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 164A:"After Clause 50, insert the following new clause—"
““POWER OF ENTRY AND ...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 682 c682-4 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 167:"Before Clause 51, insert the following new clause—"
““RECORDING A CRIMINA...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 682 c684 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Baroness has our full support on this amendment. She described the conduct as ““despicable...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c680-1 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Baroness has described very well what her amendment would do, and I do not intend to do th...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 682 c681-2 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his reply. It does not surprise me. The Government seem wedded to legislati...
Lord Lyell | 682 c676 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful because it will save the time of the Chief Whip and of the House. I shall be pleased i...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 682 c687 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 168:"Page 70, line 43, at end insert—"