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European Union (Withdrawal) Bill

Committee stage third day. New clause 16, discussed with new clauses 78 and 79, amendments, clause 5 stand part, and schedule 1 stand part, debated and withdrawn. New clause 79 negatived on division (295 to 314). Amendment 46 to clause 5 negatived on division (301 to 311). Clause 5 agreed to. Amendment 336 to schedule 1 negatived on division (296 to 315). Amendment 139 to schedule 1 negatived on division (295 to 315). Schedule 1 agreed to on division (313 to 295). Progress reported. Committee to sit again tomorrow.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

631 cc861-1001 

Session

2017-19

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber
European Union (Withdrawal) Bill 2017-19
Thursday, 13 July 2017
Bills
House of Commons
The European Union (Withdrawal) Bill: Supremacy and the Court of Justice
Wednesday, 8 November 2017
Research briefings

Proceeding contributions

Chris Leslie | 631 c862 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 631 cc862-6 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

New clause 78—Consequences of lea...


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Chris Leslie | 631 c866 (Link to this contribution)

The amendments in this group have a number of things in common, and they relate largely to the ri...

Desmond Swayne | 631 c866 (Link to this contribution)

When I was sitting in the hon. Gentleman’s place, Labour Ministers told us that the charter would...

Chris Leslie | 631 c866 (Link to this contribution)

It turns out that the charter does have value, and it certainly does have effect within the UK. I...

Hilary Benn | 631 c866 (Link to this contribution)

Is not an example of the use of the charter of fundamental rights the one given by our right hon....

Chris Leslie | 631 c867 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed. My right hon. Friend has stolen the punchline that I was building up to, because that is ...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 631 c867 (Link to this contribution)

Given that the charter has been part of British law for some years now, the case for repealing it...

Chris Leslie | 631 c867 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. We might hear a different argument from Ministers, but traditionally the Government’s...

Kate Green | 631 c867 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that one advantage of the new clause is that we could explore properly ...

Chris Leslie | 631 c867 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed. We need a far more detailed analysis from Ministers of the consequences of deleting the c...

David Lammy | 631 c867 (Link to this contribution)

When children in the world are still subject to slave labour or trafficking or are working as chi...

Chris Leslie | 631 c868 (Link to this contribution)

People will have many legitimate anxieties. We cannot simply erase a provision that currently has...

Chris Leslie | 631 c868 (Link to this contribution)

What a choice. I will give way to the hon. Member for Stone (Sir William Cash).

William Cash | 631 c868 (Link to this contribution)

One of the most fundamental questions is the notion of disapplying Acts of Parliament and the sup...

Chris Leslie | 631 c868 (Link to this contribution)

In no way would I wish to diminish the hon. Gentleman’s contribution to child protection and ensu...

Wes Streeting | 631 c868 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that this is about not just the application of the charter of fundament...

Chris Leslie | 631 c868 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a good point. If the Bill contained a provision to copy and paste many of th...

Mark Harper | 631 c868 (Link to this contribution)

I have two points. First, when the charter of fundamental rights was introduced, it was said that...

Chris Leslie | 631 c868 (Link to this contribution)

It might well be the case that Parliament could salvage many of the protections over time and put...

Anna Soubry | 631 c869 (Link to this contribution)

As an old lawyer who enjoyed jurisprudence, I know that our laws and rights come from many differ...

Chris Leslie | 631 c869 (Link to this contribution)

I was trying my best to offer a hand of friendship across the Chamber and to say, “Let’s meet hal...

Chris Bryant | 631 c869 (Link to this contribution)

One of the differences between the charter of fundamental rights and the European convention on h...

Chris Leslie | 631 c869 (Link to this contribution)

It is probably time to elaborate on that example, because the Secretary of State—for it is he—sue...

Victoria Prentis | 631 c869 (Link to this contribution)

As a Government lawyer at the time, I was honoured to present that case on behalf of the Governme...

Chris Leslie | 631 c869 (Link to this contribution)

I have no reason to question the hon. Lady’s capabilities in court, and I am in no way saying tha...

Chris Leslie | 631 c870 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to my hon. Friend the Member for York Central (Rachael Maskell)

Rachael Maskell | 631 c870 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the right hon. Member for Broxtowe (Anna Soubry) that we need more than a report; th...

Chris Leslie | 631 c870 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is correct. While we have powers on the statute and while rights accrue from case ...

Chris Leslie | 631 c870 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to my right hon. Friend in a moment, because he has a great amendment relating to...

Stephen Timms | 631 c870 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for his kind reference to my amendment 151. Going back to the case brought...

Chris Leslie | 631 c870 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is absolutely right. If the hon. Member for Banbury (Victoria Prentis) had w...

Joanna Cherry | 631 c870 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member for Banbury (Victoria Prentis) suggested that the charter of fundamental rights c...

Chris Leslie | 631 c871 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. and learned Lady makes the point very well, but perhaps the hon. Member for Banbury woul...

Victoria Prentis | 631 c871 (Link to this contribution)

My point is not that we do not approve of the rights, nor that we thought it was not possible to ...

Chris Leslie | 631 c871 (Link to this contribution)

I hear the hon. Lady’s case that somehow the charter is not necessary, which is very much the cas...

Wera Hobhouse | 631 c871 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman find it odd that we are transposing all EU law into our own law while tak...

Chris Leslie | 631 c871 (Link to this contribution)

I agree. I find it odd that Ministers are saying that, somehow, the charter does not matter but a...

Jacob Rees-Mogg | 631 cc871-2 (Link to this contribution)

Has the hon. Gentleman paid attention to protocol 30? Article 1(2) states:

“In particular, ...

Chris Leslie | 631 c872 (Link to this contribution)

I am not quite sure that is the interpretation of the courts, which have referenced the charter o...

Chris Leslie | 631 c872 (Link to this contribution)

I want to make a little more progress, if I may, because I need to reference a number of other am...

Kerry McCarthy | 631 c872 (Link to this contribution)

The recent prosecutions of the Government under clean air laws, for example, might not have been ...

Chris Leslie | 631 c873 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes the point well. We can all imagine circumstances in which the Government cou...

Mary Creagh | 631 c873 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making some excellent points. His amendment on Francovich echoes my own, althou...

Chris Leslie | 631 c873 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is correct about that and she has tabled a very good amendment on this issue. Mini...

Suella Braverman | 631 c874 (Link to this contribution)

As the hon. Gentleman will know, the threshold for claiming damages under Francovich is that the ...

Chris Leslie | 631 c874 (Link to this contribution)

Would it not be great if we were having a proper debate about retaining Francovich protections, a...

David Lammy | 631 c874 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend rightly suspects that the Government will say that the charter from the UK will no...

Chris Leslie | 631 c874 (Link to this contribution)

We need to make sure that if we are transposing legislation, it is a true copy and paste, but tha...

Anna Soubry | 631 c874 (Link to this contribution)

I hope this will be a more helpful intervention. The hon. Gentleman is making a good point. The p...

Chris Leslie | 631 c875 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, the right hon. Lady makes a good argument about how we are transposing certain bits of Europ...

Charlie Elphicke | 631 c875 (Link to this contribution)

I have been listening carefully to the hon. Gentleman’s argument on transposing the charter of fu...

Chris Leslie | 631 c875 (Link to this contribution)

I have been in Parliament since 1997, on and off, and I find that amendments can often be rebutte...

Chris Leslie | 631 c875 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way one more time but I want to make sure that other Members can have a right to spea...

Mary Creagh | 631 c875 (Link to this contribution)

I am in violent agreement with the right hon. Member for Broxtowe (Anna Soubry) on the issue of F...

Chris Leslie | 631 cc875-6 (Link to this contribution)

That is an exceptionally important point. Our legal system is one of the finest in the world. It ...

Dominic Grieve | 631 cc876-7 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Nottingham East (Mr Leslie). If I may say so...

David Lammy | 631 c877 (Link to this contribution)

Is the right hon. and learned Gentleman also aware of the simple rights that many of us will have...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c877 (Link to this contribution)

I place great respect on the fact that, for all the faults I can sometimes identify, when the Eur...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c877 (Link to this contribution)

I will just make a little progress.

I do not have any problem with that vision at all. It w...

William Cash | 631 c877 (Link to this contribution)

I have listened to my right hon. and learned Friend with great care and interest. Will he explain...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c878 (Link to this contribution)

I thought Factortame would come along at some point in this debate. My hon. Friend is of course r...

Victoria Prentis | 631 c878 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. and learned Friend and former pupil master is making a speech with his characterist...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c879 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a good point. As has been pointed out, this amendment just asks for a report...

Catherine West | 631 c879 (Link to this contribution)

Might I use as an example very cash-strapped services, which might not naturally wish to be exten...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c879 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady makes a valid point, but it is worth bearing in mind that that is covered by the Hu...

Mark Harper | 631 c879 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. and learned Friend raised the issue of the extension of rights. Is not one of the p...

Dominic Grieve | 631 cc879-880 (Link to this contribution)

That of course was one of the great anxieties when the charter was enacted. Indeed, it is the rea...

Oliver Letwin | 631 c880 (Link to this contribution)

I just want to make sure that I understand what my right hon. and learned Friend is suggesting. A...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c880 (Link to this contribution)

That could be a solution, but even if we do not have time to move to that and to have the necessa...

Mary Creagh | 631 c880 (Link to this contribution)

The general principles of European law do not cover the principles of environmental law. That was...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c880 (Link to this contribution)

I agree that environmental law is an area that could do with the scrutiny that I have just outlin...

Oliver Letwin | 631 c880 (Link to this contribution)

I just want to follow what my right hon. and learned Friend was saying a moment ago, because it s...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c881 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, absolutely, and that was what new clause 55 sought to achieve, although it did provide the o...

Charlie Elphicke | 631 c881 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. and learned Friend is making a typically thoughtful and deeply considered speech. O...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c881 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. He has correctly analysed what the issues are and the categor...

Bernard Jenkin | 631 c881 (Link to this contribution)

Some of these rights are going to be incorporated in different statutes. For example, there is go...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c881 (Link to this contribution)

If I understand my hon. Friend’s question, it goes to the point I made a moment ago, which was th...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c882 (Link to this contribution)

No, I do not think it will create uncertainty, any more than the Human Rights Act has created unc...

Jacob Rees-Mogg | 631 c882 (Link to this contribution)

On the point my right hon. and learned Friend is making, I think I am in complete agreement with ...

Dominic Grieve | 631 cc882-3 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, and there we are in agreement. It is inevitable and regrettable that we face this situation,...

John Redwood | 631 c883 (Link to this contribution)

Is not the important point about clause 5 that any future Act of this Parliament takes supremacy,...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c883 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend almost makes my case for me. He is absolutely right that, in so far as we wa...

Oliver Letwin | 631 c883 (Link to this contribution)

In my right hon and learned Friend’s observations about schedule 1, paragraph 3(2), is he referri...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c884 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is absolutely right and we are completely of one mind on this. I am talking ...

Oliver Letwin | 631 c884 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted, though not surprised, that my right hon. and learned Friend and I are thinking al...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c884 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for his intervention. As I have said on many previous occas...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 631 c884 (Link to this contribution)

On whether the drafting is entirely right, so far, as far as I am aware, the Government have had ...

Dominic Grieve | 631 cc884-5 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. and learned Friend makes a very good point. He highlights the difficulty faced by a...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c885 (Link to this contribution)

Before my hon. Friend intervenes, let me say this to him. The big argument against EU law is that...

William Cash | 631 c885 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that my right hon. and learned Friend will not go down the rabbit hole suggested by my rig...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c885 (Link to this contribution)

I understand my hon. Friend’s point. However, the purpose of this Bill, as I understand it, is to...

Jacob Rees-Mogg | 631 c886 (Link to this contribution)

Is there not an important change once we have left the European Union in that the European Court ...

Dominic Grieve | 631 cc886-7 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an interesting point. I slightly question the extent to which we have had cl...

Paul Blomfield | 631 c887 (Link to this contribution)

It is a genuine pleasure to follow the right hon. and learned Member for Beaconsfield (Mr Grieve)...

William Cash | 631 c887 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Paul Blomfield | 631 cc887-8 (Link to this contribution)

I think I could probably get a few more sentences into my stride before taking an intervention, b...

William Cash | 631 c888 (Link to this contribution)

Is the hon. Gentleman about to move on to explain why Tony Blair and the Lord Goldsmith fought so...

Paul Blomfield | 631 c888 (Link to this contribution)

I was not about to go on to that, but clearly I am now. The hon. Gentleman knows that the charter...

Alex Chalk | 631 c888 (Link to this contribution)

The charter applies only when national authorities are implementing EU law. Does the hon. Gentlem...

Paul Blomfield | 631 cc888-9 (Link to this contribution)

I will come on to this point, but the charter is key to ensuring that retained law is treated pro...

Suella Braverman | 631 c889 (Link to this contribution)

Will not the hon. Gentleman’s proposals create more uncertainty and raise more questions than ans...

Paul Blomfield | 631 c890 (Link to this contribution)

No. The right hon. and learned Member for Beaconsfield answered that point when it was raised by ...

Suella Braverman | 631 c890 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman proposes that part of the charter should be erased and that it should undergo ...

Paul Blomfield | 631 c890 (Link to this contribution)

I am genuinely puzzled by the hon. Lady’s point because she could make it in relation to all of t...

Hilary Benn | 631 c890 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a very powerful case, and my anticipation of the Minister’s speech incre...

Paul Blomfield | 631 cc890-1 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is absolutely right. Like him, I am looking forward to hearing the Minister ...

John Redwood | 631 c891 (Link to this contribution)

Our rights always used to be guaranteed, and will be guaranteed once we have left, through a comb...

Paul Blomfield | 631 c891 (Link to this contribution)

I am puzzled by that point, because EU-retained law will effectively become statute law, and that...

Mark Harper | 631 c891 (Link to this contribution)

I listened carefully to what the hon. Gentleman said about article 6 of the European convention. ...

Paul Blomfield | 631 c891 (Link to this contribution)

As I understand it, it does not apply in all civil cases—only civil rights and obligations under ...

John Redwood | 631 c892 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman said that he did not understand the point I was making. Our rights will be gua...

Paul Blomfield | 631 c892 (Link to this contribution)

We are talking about statute law, and about rights such as the one on which the right hon. Gentle...

William Cash | 631 c892 (Link to this contribution)

Has the hon. Gentleman considered the impact in relation to alleged and actual terrorists on the ...

Paul Blomfield | 631 c892 (Link to this contribution)

In his keenness to tackle the argument, I think that the hon. Gentleman has missed the point. Tha...

Oliver Letwin | 631 c892 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of clarification, the hon. Gentleman said that the date on which the retention would e...

Paul Blomfield | 631 c893 (Link to this contribution)

If the Prime Minister’s words are to be taken at face value—we continue to operate during the tra...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c893 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has touched on an important point. If we are going into a transitional period ...

Paul Blomfield | 631 c893 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. and learned Gentleman, who has made the point much more effectively than I...

Antoinette Sandbach | 631 c893 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union has made a number of statements about the f...

Paul Blomfield | 631 c893 (Link to this contribution)

If the Government can identify the sources of rights covered by the charter and can explain exact...

Dominic Raab | 631 c894 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Sheffield Central (Paul Blomfield). At the outset,...

Bernard Jenkin | 631 c894 (Link to this contribution)

May I refer my hon. Friend to clause 5(2)? My right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Beacon...

Dominic Raab | 631 c894 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention and I will come on to address very carefully the spee...

Dominic Raab | 631 c895 (Link to this contribution)

I will just make a little bit of progress and then I will give way to my right hon. and learned F...

Dominic Raab | 631 cc895-6 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way just for the moment, but I will give way to the hon. and learned Lady shortly...

Dominic Raab | 631 c896 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way shortly to the hon. and learned Lady, because I know she supports some of the ame...

Dominic Raab | 631 c896 (Link to this contribution)

Allow me to make the point and then I will give way, because there are two sides to my right hon....

Dominic Grieve | 631 c896 (Link to this contribution)

No, I want these words removed because they are completely unnecessary. To use that wonderful wor...

Dominic Raab | 631 c897 (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure where this devilish plot has come from—I have made no such suggestion; I was simply...

William Cash | 631 c897 (Link to this contribution)

On the subject of devilish plots and “The Screwtape Letters”, may I refer my hon. Friend to chapt...

Dominic Raab | 631 c897 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a considered and thoughtful point. Given the changes we are making—for the p...

Joanna Cherry | 631 c897 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman said earlier that one of his guiding principles was not to exacerbate any lega...

Dominic Raab | 631 c898 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. and learned Lady makes a perfectly respectable and legitimate point, but I will address ...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 631 c898 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend reassures us that even without the charter of fundamental rights the House of Comm...

Dominic Raab | 631 cc898-9 (Link to this contribution)

I will come shortly to my right hon. and learned Friend’s substantive generic point and also touc...

Oliver Letwin | 631 c899 (Link to this contribution)

Will that report arrive before the Bill’s Report stage?

3 pm

Dominic Raab | 631 c899 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, it will, and, as I was about to say, there will indeed be a Report stage. If my right hon. F...

Vicky Ford | 631 c899 (Link to this contribution)

This has been a long and complex legal argument, but let me summarise it. The issue of data prote...

Dominic Raab | 631 cc899-900 (Link to this contribution)

I know that my hon. Friend is an expert on these matters because of her time in the European Parl...

Dominic Raab | 631 c900 (Link to this contribution)

I will make a slight bit of progress, and then I will give way.

Seeking simply to transplan...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 631 c900 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has addressed my question, but, with great respect, he has failed to give an answe...

Dominic Raab | 631 c900 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. and learned Friend’s intervention was not in quite the spirit in which we have cond...

Dominic Raab | 631 cc900-1 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to make a bit of progress, but I will give way shortly.

Let me, again, be clear ...

Joanna Cherry | 631 c901 (Link to this contribution)

With all due respect, I do not understand the point that the Minister is making. The charter is a...

Dominic Raab | 631 c901 (Link to this contribution)

As we leave the European Union, it will make no sense to retain the institutional framework of me...

John Redwood | 631 c901 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister confirm that the evolution of our rights through history shows that the best wa...

Dominic Raab | 631 c901 (Link to this contribution)

I suppose the theory is that a majoritarian dominance—a Government with a huge majority—would tra...

Dominic Raab | 631 c901 (Link to this contribution)

I want to make a little bit of progress, but I will of course give way to the Chair of the Select...

Hilary Benn | 631 c901 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister. He said a moment ago that one of the arguments he was advancing fo...

Dominic Raab | 631 c901 (Link to this contribution)

I think that the right hon. Gentleman should look at, for example, the Devine case on prisoner vo...

Dominic Raab | 631 c902 (Link to this contribution)

I am not going to give way again.

The point I wanted to reaffirm is that, given that the su...

Antoinette Sandbach | 631 c902 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend accept that there may be a third category of rights that are in the charter b...

Dominic Raab | 631 c902 (Link to this contribution)

As I have made clear, we will publish a memorandum containing article-by-article analysis of the ...

Dominic Raab | 631 c902 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to make a bit more progress, but I will give way shortly.

The amendment relates ...

Vicky Ford | 631 c903 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his words on the Data Protection Bill, which will give strong data prote...

Dominic Raab | 631 c903 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend; she has made her point in a very careful way. I suggest that that is some...

Stephen Timms | 631 c903 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for addressing my amendment. Does he accept that it is essential th...

Dominic Raab | 631 c903 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman is absolutely right that we need to be very careful to navigate our post...

Dominic Raab | 631 cc903-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to make some progress, because I have been speaking for over half an hour and Minister...

Dominic Raab | 631 c904 (Link to this contribution)

I give way to my right hon. and learned Friend.

Dominic Grieve | 631 c904 (Link to this contribution)

Is my hon. Friend about to move on to schedule 1, or is another Minister going to deal with it, a...

Dominic Raab | 631 c904 (Link to this contribution)

As I said at the opening of my remarks, given the intention to address clause 5 in some detail an...

Joanna Cherry | 631 cc904-6 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to give my support and that of the Scottish National party to the amendments designed to r...

Dominic Raab | 631 c906 (Link to this contribution)

I think I have already said this, but I am very happy to reaffirm for the hon. and learned Lady t...

Joanna Cherry | 631 cc906-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for that. I had understood that the revision and repeal of the Huma...

Suella Braverman | 631 c908 (Link to this contribution)

I am flattered that the hon. and learned Lady is quoting me in the Chamber. Does she not find it ...

Joanna Cherry | 631 c908 (Link to this contribution)

With respect, we have all that at present. The status quo is that the ECHR and the charter of fun...

Wera Hobhouse | 631 c908 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. and learned Lady agree that there is some kind of misunderstanding here, and that i...

Joanna Cherry | 631 cc908-9 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady makes her point eloquently. Some of those on the Government Benches say that incorp...

Antoinette Sandbach | 631 c909 (Link to this contribution)

Our independent judiciary is clearly quite capable of balancing the rights contained in the chart...

Joanna Cherry | 631 c909 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed it has; that is its job. In particular, judges at the higher level such as the Supreme Cou...

Lady Hermon | 631 c909 (Link to this contribution)

Just before the hon. and learned Lady comes to her list, may I add one more item to it? The Gover...

Joanna Cherry | 631 c909 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed I will. The hon. Lady has, in her usual clear and incisive way, anticipated something that...

Robert Buckland | 631 c909 (Link to this contribution)

I am listening with great care to the hon. and learned Lady’s remarks and to the interventions th...

Joanna Cherry | 631 c910 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to differ. The Solicitor General is right about the dates, but as we know, the charter is m...

Bernard Jenkin | 631 c910 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder whether the hon. and learned Lady recalls the Mostyn judgment of 2013, in which a very s...

Joanna Cherry | 631 cc910-1 (Link to this contribution)

If I may say so, I think that that is to misunderstand. I am not responsible for the false assura...

Seema Malhotra | 631 c911 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. and learned Lady and I both sit on that Committee. I would like her views on another poi...

Joanna Cherry | 631 c911 (Link to this contribution)

Dr O’Brien did indeed make that point, and I think that anyone interested in the detail of why re...

Geoffrey Cox | 631 c911 (Link to this contribution)

The number of cases in which the charter is cited— 248 in England and Wales—does not mean that it...

Joanna Cherry | 631 c911 (Link to this contribution)

I do know that, because I have sat through cases—so, too, has the hon. and learned Gentleman, I s...

Geoffrey Cox | 631 c912 (Link to this contribution)

The most familiar rejoinder of a judge when one cites the charter in the High Court is, “What doe...

Joanna Cherry | 631 c912 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. and learned Gentleman is no doubt commenting on the English jurisdiction, and I cannot c...

Darren Jones | 631 c912 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that the hon. and learned Lady can help me with a point of confusion that I am struggling ...

Joanna Cherry | 631 cc912-3 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right, and that point was also made by Dr O’Brien in her evidenc...

William Cash | 631 c913 (Link to this contribution)

As I have already suggested, both Tony Blair and Lord Goldsmith strongly resisted the charter of ...

Bernard Jenkin | 631 c914 (Link to this contribution)

It is for the European Court of Justice to continue to interpret what the charter of fundamental ...

William Cash | 631 c914 (Link to this contribution)

The Supreme Court would be applying the European interpretation in that context, and I simply say...

Edward Leigh | 631 c914 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making some excellent points about parliamentary sovereignty, but I am not sure...

William Cash | 631 c915 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend’s general proposition, to which I would add that it is up to us to ma...

William Cash | 631 c915 (Link to this contribution)

I know he knows what I am about to say, but may I finish the quotation? He said that

“the E...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c915 (Link to this contribution)

May I gently say to my hon. Friend that although this is fascinating, we are actually talking abo...

William Cash | 631 c915 (Link to this contribution)

I simply add that I understand this with reference to the European Court in its existing situatio...

Wera Hobhouse | 631 c916 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

William Cash | 631 cc916-8 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not, because, as the Chair will appreciate, I have taken a lot of interventions, as I ...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c917 (Link to this contribution)

As I said, the drafting of amendments is quite a complex matter, and I am the first to accept tha...

William Cash | 631 c917 (Link to this contribution)

Let me conclude. I do hope that my right hon. and learned Friend will not do what he has just sug...

Stephen Timms | 631 c919 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak to amendment 151, which, at first sight, looks rather technical but actually refe...

Mark Harper | 631 c919 (Link to this contribution)

I was just listening to what the right hon. Gentleman said about the court cases. Would it not be...

Stephen Timms | 631 cc920-1 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman gets right to the heart of the case. I believe that the answer to his qu...

Darren Jones | 631 c921 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend recognise that if the European Commission makes a decision on equivalen...

Stephen Timms | 631 cc921-2 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend, who is a lawyer specialising in these matters, is absolutely right. I understand ...

Hilary Benn | 631 c922 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is making a very powerful case. The Select Committee heard evidence from the...

Stephen Timms | 631 cc922-3 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree with my right hon. Friend. My understanding is that the shortest period in whi...

Daniel Zeichner | 631 c923 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is making an excellent case on a very complicated set of issues. Does he agr...

Stephen Timms | 631 c923 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. This is such an invitation, and it is a terrible risk to take...

Mark Harper | 631 cc923-5 (Link to this contribution)

I should probably declare whatever the opposite of an interest is, in that unlike many of those w...

Stephen Timms | 631 c926 (Link to this contribution)

May I just challenge one point? If the right hon. Gentleman looks at the Data Protection Bill cur...

Mark Harper | 631 c926 (Link to this contribution)

I will come on to that at the end of my remarks. I followed the right hon. Gentleman’s remarks ve...

Anna Soubry | 631 c927 (Link to this contribution)

Does this debate not show how technical this is and how good it is—I know people get a bit agitat...

Mark Harper | 631 cc927-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that intervention. Actually two other useful points came out that I had not pre...

Antoinette Sandbach | 631 c928 (Link to this contribution)

The Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy Committee heard some very interesting evidence today...

Mark Harper | 631 cc928-9 (Link to this contribution)

That is a very helpful point. There may well be areas in which, because of the nature of the prod...

Stephen Timms | 631 c929 (Link to this contribution)

I agree: I do not think the Commission will be churlish or needlessly spiteful. But the problem i...

Mark Harper | 631 cc929-930 (Link to this contribution)

I accept that we should not take unnecessary risks, but it seems to me that we could deal with th...

Lord Hanson of Flint | 631 c930 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I have no power to impose a time-limit in Committee, but I do have the power to advise. We...

Ellie Reeves | 631 cc930-2 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak to new clause 79, which is in my name and the names of my right hon. and hon. Fri...

Jonathan Djanogly | 631 cc932-5 (Link to this contribution)

I believe that, taken as a whole, the Bill works and will do what it says on the tin. Indeed, I n...

Oliver Letwin | 631 c935 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that a different amendment—perhaps a Government amendment on Report—cou...

Jonathan Djanogly | 631 c935 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, my right hon. Friend made that fair point in an earlier intervention. I am happy to say that...

Wera Hobhouse | 631 cc935-7 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to discuss new clause 78 and the amendments that are designed to retain the charter. I lis...

Shailesh Vara | 631 c936 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady rightly speaks of our living in a global environment, but she will acknowledge that...

Wera Hobhouse | 631 c936 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for making that point. Legal experts the Select Committee has listened...

Joanna Cherry | 631 c936 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Lady agree that it is hard to substantiate the claim that Britain leads the world i...

Wera Hobhouse | 631 c936 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. and learned Lady makes a good point. I am proud of the British legacy of fundamental rig...

Lady Hermon | 631 c936 (Link to this contribution)

I do not wish to criticise the UK Government, because in many ways and instances they do lead the...

Wera Hobhouse | 631 cc938-9 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for making that valuable point. As someone who is not a legal expert, I bel...

Geoffrey Cox | 631 c939 (Link to this contribution)

What exactly would the new clause add to the rights that already exist under article 14 of the Eu...

Wera Hobhouse | 631 c939 (Link to this contribution)

The new clause has been promoted by the Equality and Human Rights Commission. I take it that the ...

Theresa Villiers | 631 cc939-940 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for my brief absence from the Chamber during the debate—it was because of the excitem...

Antoinette Sandbach | 631 c940 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for giving way. We are told by the Treasury Front Bench tha...

Theresa Villiers | 631 c941 (Link to this contribution)

That was certainly the stated intention when the charter was originally drafted, but the judicial...

Robert Neill | 631 c941 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend talks about the expansion of the charter through the role of the ECJ. Can sh...

Theresa Villiers | 631 c941 (Link to this contribution)

Of course, the key expansion as far as the United Kingdom is concerned was the confirmation by th...

Lady Hermon | 631 c941 (Link to this contribution)

As a former and, I have to say, very distinguished Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, who d...

Theresa Villiers | 631 cc941-2 (Link to this contribution)

I can assure the hon. Lady that this Government and, I am sure, all successive Governments will r...

Kerry McCarthy | 631 cc942-4 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to see you in the Chair, Mr Hanson. I rise to support amendments 101 and 105, ta...

Geoffrey Cox | 631 cc944-5 (Link to this contribution)

Broadly speaking, there have been two means of protecting human rights in international law. The ...

Joanna Cherry | 631 c945 (Link to this contribution)

I am wondering which country the hon. and learned Gentleman is talking about, because the common-...

Geoffrey Cox | 631 c945 (Link to this contribution)

No such charter existed with binding legal force before 2009, even in the European Union, but let...

Joanna Cherry | 631 c945 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. and learned Gentleman give way?

Geoffrey Cox | 631 c945 (Link to this contribution)

No, I am not going to give way again. This will become a debate between lawyers, and that is not ...

Joanna Cherry | 631 c945 (Link to this contribution)

It is actually on a moral point.

Lord Hanson of Flint | 631 c945 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The hon. and learned Gentleman is not giving way.

Geoffrey Cox | 631 c945 (Link to this contribution)

The point is that these broad and general rights are ripe with value judgments. Quite often, they...

William Cash | 631 c945 (Link to this contribution)

Will my hon. and learned Friend give way?

Geoffrey Cox | 631 cc945-6 (Link to this contribution)

If my hon. Friend will forgive me for a moment, I need to develop an argument, because I want to ...

Lady Hermon | 631 c946 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. and learned Gentleman give way?

Geoffrey Cox | 631 cc946-8 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to the hon. Lady, but not now.

Some say that there will be a collision. I a...

Anna Soubry | 631 c948 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. and learned Friend for giving way. He makes a very passionate and highly informed...

Geoffrey Cox | 631 c948 (Link to this contribution)

It does make sense, because all that does is restore us to a position pre-2009 in the European Un...

Brendan O'Hara | 631 cc948-951 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to participate in this debate as something of a rarity: a non-lawyer. I will try to keep m...

Charlie Elphicke | 631 cc950-3 (Link to this contribution)

I had occasion to consider deeply the matter of rights and human rights when I drafted, tabled an...

Antoinette Sandbach | 631 c953 (Link to this contribution)

As we are in effect transposing the whole of EU law, with all the regulations that people have co...

Charlie Elphicke | 631 cc953-4 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend. I think that it does make sense to look at this category of rights, ...

Mary Creagh | 631 cc954-6 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Dover (Charlie Elphicke). I voted against this Bil...

Anna Soubry | 631 c956 (Link to this contribution)

There is genuine concern across this House about this matter, because it cannot be right that peo...

Mary Creagh | 631 cc956-7 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. Lady for that intervention. Often the simplest sentences raise the biggest...

Oliver Letwin | 631 cc957-8 (Link to this contribution)

I have considerable sympathy with the points just made by the hon. Member for Wakefield (Mary Cre...

William Cash | 631 c958 (Link to this contribution)

For the sake of the record, I would be grateful to my right hon. Friend—I nearly said “learned” b...

Oliver Letwin | 631 cc958-9 (Link to this contribution)

Oddly enough, I was going to say that, so I will not do so now. I agree with that. While we are a...

Helen Hayes | 631 cc959-960 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak in support of amendment 46 in the name of my right hon. Friend the Leader of the ...

Liz Saville Roberts | 631 c960 (Link to this contribution)

Stronger children’s rights protections exist in the devolved nations, and Ministers in Wales are ...

Helen Hayes | 631 cc960-1 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for her intervention, and she cites yet another powerful example of the ext...

Mark Francois | 631 c961 (Link to this contribution)

My constituents voted overwhelmingly, by 67%, to leave—there were variations around the country. ...

Helen Hayes | 631 c961 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. Gentleman for his intervention. That is not my contention; my contention i...

Antoinette Sandbach | 631 cc961-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Dulwich and West Norwood (Helen Hayes). I agree wi...

Simon Clarke | 631 c962 (Link to this contribution)

The extra rights, or third-category rights, in the charter seem to be predominantly matters of so...

Antoinette Sandbach | 631 c962 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that the Walker case demonstrates exactly the opposite. Somebody was discriminated ag...

Oliver Letwin | 631 c962 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree that there are anti-discriminatory rights contained in the charter. However, doe...

Antoinette Sandbach | 631 c962 (Link to this contribution)

I do accept that that needs to be looked at. The problem with the sovereignty of Parliament is th...

Mary Creagh | 631 c962 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is making some excellent points. Some of her Conservative colleagues have argued th...

Antoinette Sandbach | 631 c963 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady does my colleagues a great disservice. The rights that my colleagues described as o...

Mark Francois | 631 c963 (Link to this contribution)

This situation has evolved over a number of years, and it continues to do so. I do not want to in...

Mark Francois | 631 c963 (Link to this contribution)

It is. The then Labour Government said that they had a protocol that specifically ruled that out....

Antoinette Sandbach | 631 c963 (Link to this contribution)

There has been much misrepresentation in the House of the protocol, but it is quite clear what it...

Tom Brake | 631 c963 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is being generous in giving way. Can she expand on how she sees us getting from our...

Antoinette Sandbach | 631 c963 (Link to this contribution)

I very much hope that those on the Front Bench will go away and undertake their promised exercise...

Anna Soubry | 631 c964 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that it is really important, given the many concerns about the Bill, th...

Antoinette Sandbach | 631 c964 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree with my right hon. Friend. In fact, I could not have put it better myself. In th...

Alex Sobel | 631 cc964-5 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Member for Eddisbury (Antoinette Sandbach) for her speech, which showed her grea...

Robert Neill | 631 cc965-6 (Link to this contribution)

There have been a number of powerful speeches from Members on both sides of the Committee on this...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c966 (Link to this contribution)

I agree entirely with my hon. Friend. While the Government have made an argument that there is a ...

Robert Neill | 631 c966 (Link to this contribution)

The case that my right hon. and learned Friend makes is completely unarguable. There is no answer...

William Cash | 631 c967 (Link to this contribution)

On amendment 10, I am sure that my hon. Friend observed what was said about the absence of refere...

Robert Neill | 631 c967 (Link to this contribution)

I think the most important principle is legal certainty. It may well be very sensible for us to s...

Tommy Sheppard | 631 cc967-9 (Link to this contribution)

I support those amendments that seek to ensure that the charter of fundamental rights is not exem...

Robert Buckland | 631 cc968-970 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Edinburgh East (Tommy Sheppard). Let me take this ...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 631 c970 (Link to this contribution)

Before my hon. and learned Friend moves on—very authoritatively, I am sure—to the details of the ...

Robert Buckland | 631 c970 (Link to this contribution)

As the Minister of State, Ministry of Justice, my hon. Friend the Member for Esher and Walton (Do...

Geoffrey Cox | 631 c970 (Link to this contribution)

Is not the answer to my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Rushcliffe’s question that t...

Robert Buckland | 631 c970 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. and learned Friend, but I feel as though I am about to become a proxy in...

Robert Buckland | 631 cc970-1 (Link to this contribution)

If I may, I will move on to amendment 10, which would remove paragraphs (1), (2) and (3) from sch...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c971 (Link to this contribution)

I would like gently to point out that I did not delete clause 5(2), which refers to interpretatio...

Robert Buckland | 631 c971 (Link to this contribution)

I think that my right hon. and learned Friend has answered his own point. Without paragraph (2), ...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c971 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. and learned Friend raised the question of scope and when they would apply, but it seems t...

Robert Buckland | 631 c972 (Link to this contribution)

I wanted to deal with the issue in this way, because it seems to me that the nub of the issue tha...

Oliver Letwin | 631 c972 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. and learned Friend, who has just said some of the words that many of us ...

Robert Buckland | 631 c972 (Link to this contribution)

Let me turn to paragraph 3(1) of schedule 1 to be absolutely clear. I am interested in looking at...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c972 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to my hon. and learned Friend, who has made a really important concession at t...

Robert Buckland | 631 c972 (Link to this contribution)

As I have said, I want to ensure that the dialogue that has been opened continues. My right hon. ...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 631 c973 (Link to this contribution)

We are making some progress, but I point out that I am the second name on the amendments tabled b...

Robert Buckland | 631 c973 (Link to this contribution)

With respect to my right hon. and learned Friend, I have talked in detail about the different par...

Robert Buckland | 631 c973 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to my hon. Friend.

William Cash | 631 c973 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that the Solicitor General will be good enough to look at the deficiencies in amendment 10...

Robert Buckland | 631 c973 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend. I am always interested in looking at how one particular paragrap...

Robert Buckland | 631 c973 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to the hon. Lady, who has been very tenacious. Please forgive me.

Lady Hermon | 631 cc973-4 (Link to this contribution)

Patience is a virtue, and I am not blessed with an abundance of it, so I am grateful to the Solic...

Robert Buckland | 631 c974 (Link to this contribution)

I know that the hon. Lady has a deep, long-term commitment to ensuring that the Good Friday agree...

Joanna Cherry | 631 c974 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Solicitor General give way?

Robert Buckland | 631 c974 (Link to this contribution)

I had better make some progress, but I certainly will give way to the hon. and learned Lady in a ...

Paul Blomfield | 631 c974 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Solicitor General give way?

Robert Buckland | 631 c974 (Link to this contribution)

If the intervention relates to the point I was making, I will give way.

Paul Blomfield | 631 c974 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Solicitor General for giving way. It is important that the House has clarity on the c...

Robert Buckland | 631 cc974-5 (Link to this contribution)

I make it clear that, in the words of both the Minister of State, Ministry of Justice, my hon. Fr...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c975 (Link to this contribution)

Has not the Solicitor General, again, just answered his own question? I appreciate that some of t...

Robert Buckland | 631 c975 (Link to this contribution)

The rationale is quite straightforward in the sense that, in seeking to achieve maximum certainty...

Vicky Ford | 631 c976 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Solicitor General for saying that he is going to look seriously at these points durin...

Robert Buckland | 631 c976 (Link to this contribution)

I can assure my hon. Friend that that will be the case. I know we have had a debate about this in...

Joanna Cherry | 631 c976 (Link to this contribution)

I am just reminding the Solicitor General that I asked him to answer a crucial point earlier rela...

Robert Buckland | 631 c976 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. and learned Lady has a keen memory and she will not have forgotten the Government’s comm...

Robert Buckland | 631 c977 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry but I must press on.

The first point to make on the amendments is that whereas s...

Anna Soubry | 631 c977 (Link to this contribution)

May I return to clause 5(1)? It states:

“The principle of the supremacy of EU law does not ...

Robert Buckland | 631 cc977-8 (Link to this contribution)

I know that my right hon. Friend listens carefully to everything I say, and I am sure she would a...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c978 (Link to this contribution)

Will my hon. and learned Friend give way?

Robert Buckland | 631 c978 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not give way, as I need to develop my point.

For example, in 2015, in their lega...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c978 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to my hon. and learned Friend. I understand everything that he is saying. He k...

Robert Buckland | 631 cc978-9 (Link to this contribution)

I did not say that. If that was the impression that was created, I am afraid that my right hon. a...

Dominic Grieve | 631 c979 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to hear the Solicitor General say that. As he will appreciate, the point is a very...

Robert Buckland | 631 c979 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I can forgive my right hon. and learned Friend his eagerness to hear the remarks that I w...

Richard Graham | 631 c979 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Solicitor General finishes his remarks, may I say, as a non-lawyer listening to what h...

Robert Buckland | 631 c980 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to my hon. Friend for making that observation. [Interruption.] I can assure Op...

Cheryl Gillan | 631 c980 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to my hon. and learned Friend for giving way, because, unfortunately, I was no...

Robert Buckland | 631 c980 (Link to this contribution)

I am extremely grateful to my right hon. Friend.

For the reasons I have outlined, I would, ...

Darren Jones | 631 cc980-2 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak in support of amendments 8, 46 and 79, the excellent amendments 101 and 105 from ...

Alex Chalk | 631 cc982-3 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to be able to say a few words this evening. May I say what a pleasure it has bee...

Rachel Maclean | 631 c983 (Link to this contribution)

I am following my hon. Friend’s arguments very carefully, and I am very pleased to hear him setti...

Alex Chalk | 631 c984 (Link to this contribution)

This is about not furthering the rights of lawyers, but about how we as a House ensure that there...

Oliver Letwin | 631 c984 (Link to this contribution)

As a matter of fact, my hon. Friend and I may be the only two Government Members who believe in h...

Oliver Letwin | 631 c984 (Link to this contribution)

There are three of us. I am very grateful. [Hon. Members: “Four.”] Let us not count. In any event...

Alex Chalk | 631 c984 (Link to this contribution)

That is exactly right. I, respectfully, completely agree with my right hon. Friend. What has been...

Simon Clarke | 631 cc984-6 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to support the Bill, particularly in opposition to amendments 8 and 46, as well as new cla...

Suella Braverman | 631 cc985-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am pleased to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland (Mr C...

Oliver Letwin | 631 c988 (Link to this contribution)

I think I agree with everything my hon. Friend has said. Does she agree that it would nevertheles...

Suella Braverman | 631 c988 (Link to this contribution)

In principle, that would be possible, but I pray in aid the comments of my hon. and learned Frien...

Vicky Ford | 631 cc989-990 (Link to this contribution)

It has been a huge honour to listen to the debate, and to hear so many contributions from so many...

Chris Leslie | 631 c990 (Link to this contribution)

The debate on new clause 16 and the myriad other amendments has been held in a collegiate atmosph...

Leo Docherty | 631 c1001 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. I should like to inform the House that on 11 and 17 Octob...

Diana Johnson | 631 c1001 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to present a petition—[Interruption.] I will wait.

Lindsay Hoyle | 631 c1001 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Will Members leave quietly, please? I want to hear the petition.

Diana Johnson | 631 cc1001-1015 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker.

I rise to present a petition bearing more than 1,500 names, c...

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