Education Bill. Lords committee stage ninth day. Clauses 41, 43, 45, 46 and 48 to 51 agreed. Clause 52 agreed as amended. Clauses 42, 44 and 47 debated and ordered to stand part. Schedule 12 agreed as amended. New clauses (Amendments 122ZBA and 123) debated and withdrawn. Grand Committee held in the Moses Room.
[Relevant documents: 15th Report from the Delegated Powers Committee, 13th Report from the Joint Committee on Human Rights]
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Education Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 67-EN also published.
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Legislative scrutiny: Education Bill and other bills. Human Rights Joint Select Committee thirteenth report with formal minutes and evidence.
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Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee. Fifteenth report on: Education Bill; Localism Bill Parts 1 to 3. (Lords Minutes).
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Elton | 730 c133-4GC (Link to this contribution)
Because my noble friend Lord Lucas is praying in aid, I think I should say that I found his speech p...
Lord Low of Dalston | 730 c114GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to all those who have spoken in the debate, which has been supportive of the issue I r...
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Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 730 c112GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, what the noble Lord has just said may well be the right approach. However, in the mean tim...
Lord Elton | 730 c111GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, regarding the legislation passed in the previous Session, which enabled and made necessary...
Lord Blackwell | 730 c164GC (Link to this contribution)
124: Clause 52, page 42, line 39, at end insert ““, and
““(c) it is specially organised to make spec...
Baroness Brinton | 730 c148GC (Link to this contribution)
122G: Clause 49, page 41, line 29, at end insert—
““( ) After subsection (3) insert—
““(3A) Notwiths...
Earl of Listowel | 730 c140GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Baroness for raising this issue, as it has given us an opportunity to learn more a...
Lord Blackwell | 730 c165-7GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in moving Amendment 124 I shall speak also to Amendments 125 and 139 in the same group. Th...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 730 c167-9GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am sure that all Members of the Committee are considering these issues because they shar...
Lord Lucas | 730 c169-70GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 126A. The previous Government made a good deal of progress in c...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 730 c170-1GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we discussed back in July how important it is that schools should be able to meet the need...
Earl of Listowel | 730 c163GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the Minister for that encouraging reply. It is good to hear about the work that hi...
Lord Avebury | 730 c163-4GC (Link to this contribution)
In answer to the noble Earl, Lord Listowel, the ring-fenced grant for the Travellers Education Servi...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 730 c164GC (Link to this contribution)
123A: Clause 52, page 42, line 32, leave out ““and””
123B: Clause 52, page 42, line 34, at end ins...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 730 c163GC (Link to this contribution)
We are due to address virtual schools later. I think that my noble friend has an amendment on the su...
Baroness Benjamin | 730 c163GC (Link to this contribution)
In the Minister’s efforts to address this issue, could he please include parents? Parents are the ke...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 730 c172GC (Link to this contribution)
124AA: Clause 52, page 43, line 36, at end insert ““or without””
124AB: Clause 52, page 43, line 4...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 730 c171-2GC (Link to this contribution)
I do not think that it is a point of merit, as it were, and I would not claim that it were. It is a ...
Lord Blackwell | 730 c172GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank everyone who contributed. As the Minister suggests, I am not entirely happy with h...
Lord Lucas | 730 c171GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am not sure that I understand the moral difference between allowing a grammar school to ...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 730 c150-1GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I turn to Amendment 124A. Clause 52, among other things, allows for the creation of altern...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 730 c151-3GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we know that at any one time around 40,000 to 70,000 pupils are in some form of alternativ...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 730 c146GC (Link to this contribution)
I am extremely grateful to my noble friend for his sympathetic reply to the amendments. I am sorry t...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 730 c144-6GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my noble friend Lady Sharp for moving this amendment and for the work that she is d...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 730 c147-8GC (Link to this contribution)
122BB: Schedule 12, page 90, line 39, at end insert—
““ (1) Section 33J (special provision for certa...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 730 c146-7GC (Link to this contribution)
122BA: Schedule 12, page 90, line 32, at end insert—
““ In section 33E (principal powers of a sixth ...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 730 c148GC (Link to this contribution)
122D: Schedule 12, page 93, leave out lines 2 to 11 and insert—
““(4) Subsections (4A) and (4B) appl...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 730 c149-50GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we have three amendments in this group that I should like to address.
First, on the Quest...
Baroness Brinton | 730 c148-9GC (Link to this contribution)
The amendment has one simple aim in the extremely complex world of schools funding: to ensure that t...
Lord Lucas | 730 c163GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my noble friend Lord Avebury raised the question of virtual schools. Perhaps my mind was d...
Lord Elton | 730 c153-4GC (Link to this contribution)
I ask my noble friend for a little footnote to history. In checking the affirmative order provided f...
Lord Avebury | 730 c155-9GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this new clause is about the way that local authorities deal with vulnerable children. The...
Lord Avebury | 730 c155GC (Link to this contribution)
123: After Clause 50, insert the following new Clause—
““Promotion of education of vulnerable childr...
Baroness Brinton | 730 c154-5GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his response on the very varied amendments that we have in front of us for ...
Earl of Listowel | 730 c154GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister briefly for his clear recognition of what happens if we do not get this right: ...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 730 c161-3GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is clear from this debate—as has often been the case—that promoting the highest possibl...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 730 c160-1GC (Link to this contribution)
Before the Minister speaks, perhaps I may ask whether he will address a particular point in his summ...
Earl of Listowel | 730 c160GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the amendment and pay tribute to the noble Baroness, Lady Whitaker, and the nobl...
Baroness Whitaker | 730 c159-60GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in following the noble Lord, Lord Avebury, on the amendment to which I have put my name, I...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 730 c142-4GC (Link to this contribution)
First, my Lords, we accept the Government amendments which have been tabled. As the Minister set out...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 730 c140GC (Link to this contribution)
122BZA: Schedule 12, page 90, line 17, leave out paragraph 3
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 730 c140-2GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 122BZB, 122BZC and 122BAA. These four amendments fall int...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 730 c139-40GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, many schools provide high-quality early education provided by parents that is good for get...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 730 c138-9GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I hope that we can deal with this quickly. This clause amends Section 456 of the Education...
Lord Low of Dalston | 730 c137-8GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the Minister has asked me to withdraw my amendment and my opposition to Clause 44 stand pa...
Lord Lucas | 730 c136-7GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I was waiting to see if my noble friend wanted to take advantage of a chance to reply. He ...
Lord Griffiths of Burry Port | 730 c136GC (Link to this contribution)
Before the Minister sits down, may I probe a little further? He says that, in so far as 14 areas are...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 730 c134-6GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Low, for tabling the amendment and for enabling us t...
Lord Low of Dalston | 730 c127-30GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, Clause 44 removes the power of the Local Government Ombudsman to hear complaints against s...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 730 c126-7GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his response and I thank Members of the Committee who have spoken on this s...
Lord Lucas | 730 c131-2GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I found the speech of the noble Lord, Lord Low of Dalston, immensely persuasive. Bullying ...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 730 c130-1GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Low, has articulated clear and comprehensive arguments for Clause 42 ...
Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 730 c133GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, Whitehall is a long way from Walsall, and the Secretary of State for Education, who sits o...
Earl of Listowel | 730 c132-3GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, persuasively supports the persuasive case made by the noble Lo...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 730 c133GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I very much support the amendment of my noble friend Lord Low. Indeed, it is strongly rein...
Baroness Benjamin | 730 c134GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I should like to bring in the point of view of parents because many of them do not know wh...
Earl of Listowel | 730 c125-6GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful for the Minister’s response. I certainly recognise the concerns about failin...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 730 c123-4GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I, too, want to speak to Amendments 122A and 122B. Clause 43 gives the Secretary of State ...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 730 c124-5GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, none of us wants to see underperforming schools letting down pupils year after year. To an...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 730 c121GC (Link to this contribution)
122ZC: Clause 43, page 39, line 1, leave out subsection (2)
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 730 c121-3GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, under Clause 43, the Secretary of State will be given new powers to intervene directly and...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 730 c121GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, access to information is crucial. I should like to be assured that all of us sitting aroun...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 730 c121GC (Link to this contribution)
I assure the noble Baroness that the reply will go to all Members of the Committee.
Clause 42 agree...
Lord Elton | 730 c121GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, will the noble Baroness press the Minister a little more on the necessity of having two di...
Baroness Brinton | 730 c121GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the intervention of my noble friend Lord Elton. The key point that I was trying to...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 730 c120GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will need to write to the noble Lord on that point, because I do not have the figures fo...
Baroness Brinton | 730 c120-1GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am pleased to hear that the HTC will remain, but the point remains valid that the ISC co...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 730 c119GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank my noble friends Lady Brinton and Lord Lexden for what they have said, and I hope ...
Lord Lucas | 730 c120GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I hear what my noble friend says; I am half comforted by it. As she knows, I edit the Good...
Earl of Listowel | 730 c120GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, if I may, I want to ask the Minister a little more about unannounced and announced inspect...
Baroness Brinton | 730 c114-7GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my noble friend Lady Walmsley and I have tabled this stand part debate in order to explore...
Lord Lexden | 730 c117-8GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, following my noble friend’s powerful speech, I want to make just a few points on inspectio...
Earl of Listowel | 730 c118GC (Link to this contribution)
I hope that the noble Baroness and the noble Lord will forgive my ignorance but are these inspection...
Lord Lexden | 730 c119GC (Link to this contribution)
If the noble Earl is asking whether the inspectors arrive without notice, the answer is no. There ar...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 730 c112-4GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I start by saying that I agree very much with the noble Lord, Lord, Low, about how importa...
Earl of Listowel | 730 c114GC (Link to this contribution)
I hope that the Minister will forgive me if I make one further comment. Within the SEN group, I can ...
Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 730 c112GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I sympathise very much with the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Low, but I also sympathi...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 730 c111-2GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, again, I rise briefly to support the noble Lord’s amendment. Like my noble friend, when I ...
Lord Brougham and Vaux | 730 c109GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, if there is a Division in the Chamber, the Member of the Committee who is speaking should ...
Earl of Listowel | 730 c110GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support my noble friend’s amendment. We have seen a great change in the training of teac...
Baroness Morris of Yardley | 730 c110-1GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, perhaps I may make a brief comment and ask a question. I have some sympathy with the amend...
Lord Low of Dalston | 730 c109GC (Link to this contribution)
122ZBA: After Clause 41, insert the following new Clause—
““School inspections: designation of teach...
Lord Low of Dalston | 730 c109-10GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this is a straightforward amendment which I hope the Minister may be willing to accept. Th...
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