Political Parties and Elections Bill. Second reading debate. Amendment debated and negatived on division (196 votes to 290). Original motion agreed to on division (287 votes to 197). Programme motion on proceedings in Committee, on Report, Third Reading and any other proceedings. Agreed to on question. Carry-over motion. Objection taken. Division deferred till 22 October. Agreed to on division (285 votes to 216). Money resolution agreed to on question.
Political Parties and Elections Bill
Debate on bills on Monday, 20 October 2008,
in the House of Commons,
led by Jack Straw.
The answering
member was Lord Herbert of South Downs.
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Proceeding contributions
Speaker | 481 c131 (Link to this contribution)
I think the Ayes have it.
Tony Wright | 481 c71 (Link to this contribution)
I am interested in what the hon. Gentleman is saying, but may I put to him a point that a number of ...
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David Howarth | 481 c71-2 (Link to this contribution)
I have a great deal of sympathy with that point. Although it is important to get big money out of po...
Lord Beith | 481 c72 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend want to reiterate the value of promoting small donations from very large numbers...
Gavin Strang | 481 c69-70 (Link to this contribution)
That is the right hon. Gentleman's view. He is jumping from the collective overall sum to the indivi...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c69 (Link to this contribution)
I rather agree with the right hon. Gentleman. That is the way it works—affiliation fees are not in a...
Lord Beith | 481 c70 (Link to this contribution)
I draw the right hon. Gentleman's attention to the fact that the New Democratic party in Canada had ...
David Howarth | 481 c70-1 (Link to this contribution)
I have been rather disturbed by how inward-looking this debate has been so far. We appear to be talk...
Gavin Strang | 481 c70 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman will understand if I do not respond to his contribution and enter into a di...
David Howarth | 481 c74-5 (Link to this contribution)
There is a problem as regards whether that person will now be a candidate following Royal Assent. If...
Martin Linton | 481 c73 (Link to this contribution)
I think that the hon. Gentleman will find that he is wrong, but if he is right would not that be an ...
David Howarth | 481 c73 (Link to this contribution)
It does not actually say that, and that is the problem. Local spending is not covered by national sp...
Martin Linton | 481 c73 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman will find on closer reading of the 2000 Act that national spending is defined as ...
David Howarth | 481 c72-3 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, indeed. As my right hon. Friend knows, I am a late and reluctant convert to the idea of any sor...
John Hemming | 481 c74 (Link to this contribution)
I have here a copy of a newspaper dated 14 October in which Chuka Umunna is described as the"““Labou...
David Howarth | 481 c74 (Link to this contribution)
There are two possibilities. First, someone might breach the rules and trigger their candidacy in th...
Alan Whitehead | 481 c74 (Link to this contribution)
If the hon. Gentleman looks at the cases that have come before the Standards and Privileges Committe...
David Howarth | 481 c73-4 (Link to this contribution)
Simply because it is an appalling wasted opportunity to do something very important that we need to ...
Gavin Strang | 481 c67-8 (Link to this contribution)
The straight answer is that I am not quite sure, but I certainly agree with my hon. Friend's general...
Gavin Strang | 481 c66-7 (Link to this contribution)
Certainly, it would be a positive step to do so, according to the principle from which I argue. I am...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c67 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. Going back to a system of triggering might not be the ...
Gavin Strang | 481 c67 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for confirming that point. Certainly, whatever the mechani...
Lord Mann | 481 c67 (Link to this contribution)
Can my right hon. Friend cite another example, from anywhere in the world, of an organisation that h...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c64-5 (Link to this contribution)
No, I have gone on too long and I want to draw my speech to a close.
The fourth objection is one of...
Martin Linton | 481 c64 (Link to this contribution)
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
David Heath | 481 c66 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is absolutely right about billboards and all the nonsense used by the polit...
Gavin Strang | 481 c65-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for this opportunity to say a few words in the debate. The speech by the right hon. Me...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c64 (Link to this contribution)
I want to make progress. I am conscious that we are taking up too much time and that many other Memb...
Gavin Strang | 481 c69 (Link to this contribution)
The legislation is clear, as the hon. Gentleman says. There is a political levy. Members opt to pay ...
David Heath | 481 c69 (Link to this contribution)
As the right hon. Gentleman knows, this is a matter that we discussed in the Hayden Phillips group. ...
Gavin Strang | 481 c68 (Link to this contribution)
They do. I have just explained that there must be a ballot on affiliation, and of course every indiv...
Lord Tyrie | 481 c68-9 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman said that it was a voluntary decision of each individual member to donate a...
Jonathan Djanogly | 481 c68 (Link to this contribution)
Does the right hon. Gentleman believe that members of unions should be able to vote on where their m...
Gavin Strang | 481 c68 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful, Mr. Deputy Speaker, for your guidance.
The hon. Member for Birmingham, Yardley (John...
John Hemming | 481 c68 (Link to this contribution)
I was indeed aware that the Musicians Union was affiliated to the Labour party. However, I was not a...
Speaker | 481 c68 (Link to this contribution)
Order. May I make it clear to the right hon. Gentleman that whoever is involved in this matter, it i...
Gavin Strang | 481 c68 (Link to this contribution)
If you do not know enough about your trade union to know that it is affiliated to the Labour party, ...
John Hemming | 481 c68 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, I am the Liberal Democrat MP who got the ballot paper for the deputy leadership elections of th...
Lord Cormack | 481 c50 (Link to this contribution)
I would like to echo what the right hon. Member for Rotherham (Mr. MacShane) said a few minutes ago....
Jack Straw | 481 c50-1 (Link to this contribution)
I am certainly willing for these matters to be looked at in great detail, but it is worth pointing o...
Denis MacShane | 481 c51 (Link to this contribution)
Will my right hon. Friend give way?
Jack Straw | 481 c52 (Link to this contribution)
As I said, I am about to finish.
I should say—I referred to it earlier—that representations have be...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 481 c52 (Link to this contribution)
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Jack Straw | 481 c52 (Link to this contribution)
I will, of course, give way to the hon. Gentleman, who is on the Front Bench.
Jack Straw | 481 c51 (Link to this contribution)
I want to make some progress, if I may.
Up to now, the Electoral Commission has faced a genuine dil...
Jack Straw | 481 c51 (Link to this contribution)
I am afraid that I am about to conclude.
Making a false declaration about any of those aspects will...
Jack Straw | 481 c49 (Link to this contribution)
I have dealt with why we have not been able to move forward with those proposals. The trigger arrang...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c49 (Link to this contribution)
Let me deal with the ingenious concept that the Justice Secretary has just introduced—that there was...
Tony Lloyd | 481 c50 (Link to this contribution)
I do not think that the observations made across the Floor have been very helpful. My own memory is ...
Jack Straw | 481 c50 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is entirely correct, and that is what the record shows, too.
Let me turn briefly to ...
Lord Tyrie | 481 c49 (Link to this contribution)
It is quite extraordinary for the Justice Secretary to suggest that there was a consensus that the r...
Jack Straw | 481 c49 (Link to this contribution)
I know that Lord Bach said that, but the basis of what he said is not what the hon. Gentleman says i...
Jack Straw | 481 c49 (Link to this contribution)
I need to make some progress.
Jack Straw | 481 c49 (Link to this contribution)
I am very happy to provide the right hon. Gentleman with the exact quotations between now and the wi...
Jack Straw | 481 c45-6 (Link to this contribution)
I have my views about the kind of changes that ought to be introduced. I have made my point. Differe...
Denis MacShane | 481 c46 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend is absolutely right.
One of the great problems that worry many of us about the...
Jack Straw | 481 c46 (Link to this contribution)
I understand my right hon. Friend's point, which we have discussed outside the House. If he would no...
Lord Mann | 481 c46 (Link to this contribution)
Before my right hon. Friend presumes an overall consensus on blaming the Electoral Commission, may I...
Jack Straw | 481 c47 (Link to this contribution)
Both factors are involved. The Committee on Standards in Public Life used exactly the same adjective...
Jack Straw | 481 c47-8 (Link to this contribution)
First, political parties are not defined as public authorities for the purposes of the Freedom of In...
Lord Tyrie | 481 c48 (Link to this contribution)
Much of the right hon. Gentleman's speech has been about the need for consensus. On the need for con...
Jack Straw | 481 c48 (Link to this contribution)
There was self-evidently a consensus up to and including the passage of the 2000 Act. Everybody beli...
Alan Reid | 481 c48-9 (Link to this contribution)
I think that ““Ardbrecknish”” was the place name in my constituency that the Lord Chancellor was try...
Jack Straw | 481 c45 (Link to this contribution)
Having enjoyed that excursion, I shall move on to one topic on which I think we are—
Jack Straw | 481 c44 (Link to this contribution)
No. I may later. I give way to the hon. Member for New Forest, East (Dr. Lewis).
Julian Lewis | 481 c44-5 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Secretary of State for giving way. I have had to use the communications allowance. I hav...
Jack Straw | 481 c45 (Link to this contribution)
What has happened is that parties seek to spend within the current rules. The hon. Gentleman makes h...
David Howarth | 481 c45 (Link to this contribution)
Before the right hon. Gentleman moves on, will he give way?
Jack Straw | 481 c45 (Link to this contribution)
Out of affection for the hon. Gentleman, if nothing else, I shall give way to him.
Bob Spink | 481 c45 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful. I shall take the Secretary of State back to the Bill. Does he agree that the politica...
David Howarth | 481 c45 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Secretary of State for giving way before he moves off the consensus point. Is not the di...
Jack Straw | 481 c45 (Link to this contribution)
Well, once.
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c63 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes an ingenious point. I shall deal briefly with the communications allowance ...
John Hemming | 481 c63 (Link to this contribution)
The provision rests fairly and squarely on the balance of power between incumbency and otherwise. Do...
Martin Linton | 481 c63 (Link to this contribution)
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Martin Linton | 481 c61 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the right hon. Gentleman and I am flattered that he so anticipated this point that he took t...
Jack Straw | 481 c62 (Link to this contribution)
I am listening to the right hon. Gentleman with care. When the 2000 Act was going through, everybody...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c60-1 (Link to this contribution)
It is not news to anyone that Bearwood is a company associated with Lord Ashcroft. The trail shows t...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c61 (Link to this contribution)
Let me finish this point, as it might help the hon. Gentleman. I know what his majority is, and I kn...
Martin Linton | 481 c61 (Link to this contribution)
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Tony Lloyd | 481 c60 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is suggesting that he supports considerable transparency. How would he deal...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c60 (Link to this contribution)
I just want to finish this point, because I am conscious of the fact that the Front-Bench speeches a...
Tony Lloyd | 481 c60 (Link to this contribution)
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c59-60 (Link to this contribution)
The position is that if the association is used as a cover simply to channel money directly from a d...
Lord Mann | 481 c59 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman rightly suggests that those powers should be strengthened and that unincorp...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c58-9 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes an important point. There is an interesting disjuncture between the lack of any...
Philip Dunne | 481 c58 (Link to this contribution)
On the subject of voter registration, is not another enormous and disappointing absence from the Bil...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c57-8 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes absolutely the right point. It is odd that so many of the interventions by Labo...
Jeremy Wright | 481 c57 (Link to this contribution)
When the relevant report just referred to was written, I was a member of the Constitutional Affairs ...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c56-7 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman should not underestimate us. We made our position absolutely clear from the outse...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c56 (Link to this contribution)
I will finish my point first, if I may, because it is important.
When, during the discussions, we c...
Charles Walker | 481 c56 (Link to this contribution)
Will my right hon. Friend give way?
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c56 (Link to this contribution)
I have absolutely no idea who that academic is; he certainly did not appear at any of the discussion...
Tony Wright | 481 c56 (Link to this contribution)
I am puzzled by the right hon. Gentleman's description of the fate of the Hayden Phillips talks. We ...
Alan Whitehead | 481 c56 (Link to this contribution)
We actually have rather more on the record. We have the Constitutional Affairs Committee's deliberat...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c55 (Link to this contribution)
I bow to the right hon. Gentleman's superior knowledge in respect of the first part of his intervent...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c55 (Link to this contribution)
It may be the vogue for the time being, but it is not a very desirable vogue. The right answer is to...
Denis MacShane | 481 c55 (Link to this contribution)
It is the vogue.
Gavin Strang | 481 c55 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with what the right hon. Gentleman is saying about the state funding of political parties, b...
Gordon Prentice | 481 c54 (Link to this contribution)
I wonder whether it is legitimate for political parties to take money from people who are not reside...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c54 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I could get a paragraph or two into the speech before, very happily, giving way to the hon. ...
Gordon Prentice | 481 c54 (Link to this contribution)
Will the gentleman give way?
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c53-4 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, To leave out from ““That”” to the end of the Question, and to add instead thereof:"““...
Denis MacShane | 481 c54 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is saying that he wants to be a virgin and have sex at the same time—he can...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c54 (Link to this contribution)
It is legitimate for political parties to take money from legitimate donors who are allowed under th...
Jack Straw | 481 c52-3 (Link to this contribution)
No, I am about to conclude.
Clause 9 helps to lift and partly remove an unfair burden in the 2000 A...
Philip Dunne | 481 c52 (Link to this contribution)
Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Jack Straw | 481 c52 (Link to this contribution)
It is not the case that nothing has happened. Indeed, a great deal of work is going on in respect of...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 481 c52 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful. Before the right hon. Gentleman finishes, will he explain why the Bill says almost no...
Speaker | 481 c41 (Link to this contribution)
I inform the House that I have selected the amendment in the name of the Leader of the Opposition.
Jack Straw | 481 c41-2 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.
Shortly after Labour's general election vic...
Charles Walker | 481 c44 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Secretary of State give way once more now?
Jack Straw | 481 c44 (Link to this contribution)
I never suggested that they had, but the right hon. Gentleman makes my point. To my certain knowledg...
Jack Straw | 481 c44 (Link to this contribution)
I have already given way to the hon. Member for Broxbourne (Mr. Walker).
Lord Beith | 481 c43 (Link to this contribution)
The Select Committee report to which the Secretary of State referred was indeed a consensus; it was ...
Jack Straw | 481 c42-3 (Link to this contribution)
While the hon. Gentleman was indicating that he wanted to intervene, I was indeed debating whether t...
David Heath | 481 c42 (Link to this contribution)
The Lord Chancellor is speaking as though the Hayden Phillips committee had never existed, yet he an...
Jack Straw | 481 c44 (Link to this contribution)
There could be great debate about whether incumbents benefit. They do when they are winning, and the...
Charles Walker | 481 c43-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure that the Secretary of State will appreciate that huge advantages of incumbency are inbuilt...
Jack Straw | 481 c43 (Link to this contribution)
The answer is that I have not put forward in the Bill proposals ““peculiar”” to the Labour party, an...
Tony Wright | 481 c111 (Link to this contribution)
That is a fair question. The Bill has two essential elements. One is to give far more focus to the E...
Philip Dunne | 481 c114-5 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is simply wrong. We do not spend large amounts of money on trying to identify exp...
David Leslie Taylor | 481 c114 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman agree that substantial sums have been devoted to encouraging expatriate regi...
Philip Dunne | 481 c114 (Link to this contribution)
Like my hon. Friend the Member for New Forest, East (Dr. Lewis), I would like to focus on an omissio...
Julian Lewis | 481 c112-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am quite happy to have had to wait rather a long time to make what is rather a short speech, becau...
Tony Lloyd | 481 c123 (Link to this contribution)
Returning to the important theme of the arms race, will my hon. Friend assure the House that when th...
Jonathan Djanogly | 481 c115-9 (Link to this contribution)
We have had an interesting debate that has covered a large number of issues. The Conservative party ...
Lord Wills | 481 c119-23 (Link to this contribution)
As the hon. Member for Huntingdon (Mr. Djanogly) said, this has been an interesting debate. There ha...
Lord Beith | 481 c108 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman has been rather unfair in his criticisms by lumping in such mundane things as adv...
Tony Wright | 481 c107-8 (Link to this contribution)
That is consistent with my argument; we do not want our politics to be driven by money, as it would ...
David Leslie Taylor | 481 c109 (Link to this contribution)
Surely it has to be possible to separate the perfectly proper wish to communicate with constituents ...
Tony Wright | 481 c108-9 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed. My view is that if we have to have the allowance, it should seriously conform to certain sta...
Tony Wright | 481 c109 (Link to this contribution)
I agree; if we are going to have such an arrangement, it has to conform to standards that are more r...
Barry Sheerman | 481 c109 (Link to this contribution)
I have been following my hon. Friend's speech closely, and I agree with a great deal of it, but does...
Jeremy Browne | 481 c110 (Link to this contribution)
I rise only to support the point that the hon. Gentleman is making. We all know that the hardest pos...
Tony Wright | 481 c110-1 (Link to this contribution)
I agree, and I would go further. This relates to what I was saying earlier. In many respects we are ...
Barry Sheerman | 481 c111 (Link to this contribution)
I am enjoying my hon. Friend's speech, but I am still waiting for him to tell the House how he would...
Adam Afriyie | 481 c93 (Link to this contribution)
And Labour candidates.
Alan Whitehead | 481 c97-8 (Link to this contribution)
It is both a pleasure and a problem to follow the right hon. Member for North-West Hampshire (Sir Ge...
Lord Beith | 481 c98-9 (Link to this contribution)
I think the hon. Gentleman misunderstands the position of my hon. Friend the Member for Cambridge (D...
Tony Lloyd | 481 c93-4 (Link to this contribution)
I would love to be able to tell the hon. Gentleman that the rich trade union members provide such su...
Lord Young of Cookham | 481 c94-7 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Manchester, Central (Tony Lloyd), who made a thoughtf...
Martin Linton | 481 c99 (Link to this contribution)
Can my hon. Friend tell the House whether he would have any sympathy for Liberal Democrat candidates...
Alan Whitehead | 481 c99 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman makes a strong point in one sense, inasmuch as it would be technically poss...
Alan Whitehead | 481 c100-1 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise; 1880 was the year of the general election. I was thinking of the by-election. In the 18...
Adam Afriyie | 481 c101 (Link to this contribution)
It is surely undeniable that a communication sent directly to constituents from an incumbent MP, sho...
Alan Whitehead | 481 c101-2 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman might have a point if no restrictions on the communications allowance existed. In...
Martin Linton | 481 c102 (Link to this contribution)
Before my hon. Friend runs away with the comparison between the communications allowance and Short m...
Alan Whitehead | 481 c102 (Link to this contribution)
I had always understood that what was realised after detailed examination of the incumbency factor w...
Lord Tyrie | 481 c102-3 (Link to this contribution)
I will not go through a clause-by-clause dismemberment of the Bill, because my right hon. Friend the...
Martin Linton | 481 c103 (Link to this contribution)
It is in a Library note.
Lord Tyrie | 481 c103-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am trying to agree with the hon. Gentleman; if he can contain himself for a moment, he will get a ...
Tony Wright | 481 c106-7 (Link to this contribution)
I have learned, over the years, to be extremely suspicious of the word ““consensus””. Whenever it is...
Fiona Mactaggart | 481 c77-9 (Link to this contribution)
It seems to me that the Bill is about better regulation. We are looking at whether the Electoral Com...
David Howarth | 481 c76 (Link to this contribution)
I think that the hon. Gentleman is talking about the political fund, which I should remind him was c...
Lord Mann | 481 c76 (Link to this contribution)
I appreciate that the unions split from the Liberal party in 1906, which is some time back, but the ...
David Howarth | 481 c75-6 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the right hon. Gentleman for that. At least it was some progress.
The third and final thing...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c75 (Link to this contribution)
I thought that I had made the position very clear. We do not think that that is the problem, and nei...
David Howarth | 481 c77 (Link to this contribution)
But there is an important distinction between the organisation deciding through its democratic proce...
Gavin Strang | 481 c77 (Link to this contribution)
One important point is the fundamentally democratic nature of trade unions. Unions decide their poli...
David Howarth | 481 c76-7 (Link to this contribution)
That is sometimes the case, but not with Unite, on which I do not want to cast any aspersions. If so...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c76 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is on to a very important point, which was at the heart of why we failed to reach...
David Howarth | 481 c75 (Link to this contribution)
That is one of the reasons why I mentioned the rather odd nature of Dr. Pinto-Duschinsky's own metho...
Jonathan Djanogly | 481 c79 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady is making a powerful case for individual voter registration, which we support. Even th...
Jonathan Djanogly | 481 c80 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Lady appreciate that nothing in the Bill provides for countering electoral fraud?
Fiona Mactaggart | 481 c79-80 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes it quite clear—in contrast to what the hon. Member for New Forest, East (Dr...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 481 c80 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure that the hon. Lady's words will be heard by the Peterborough Labour party, particularly th...
Fiona Mactaggart | 481 c80 (Link to this contribution)
That is one of the reasons why I am making a bid to sit on the Public Bill Committee in order to be ...
Peter Viggers | 481 c81-3 (Link to this contribution)
The Electoral Commission was created to be independent, but it has to be answerable to someone for p...
Fiona Mactaggart | 481 c80-1 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman, to be straightforward, did not listen to what I said. I expect that Eshaq Khan m...
Fiona Mactaggart | 481 c79 (Link to this contribution)
As someone who has spent a lot of energy finding out about fictional people in one ward in Slough, I...
Alan Whitehead | 481 c86 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend may be interested to know that the two references on page 44 of the research paper re...
Martin Linton | 481 c86 (Link to this contribution)
My neighbour and hon. Friend the Member for Southampton, Test (Dr. Whitehead) is checking the contex...
Adam Afriyie | 481 c86 (Link to this contribution)
Earlier, the hon. Gentleman took us back to 1993. The central thrust of his argument about escalatin...
Martin Linton | 481 c86 (Link to this contribution)
I am referring to a different part of the legislation. I cannot quote from it now, because I do not ...
Martin Linton | 481 c85 (Link to this contribution)
We have already discussed this. I suggest that the hon. Gentleman speak to some lawyers—[Laughter]—u...
David Howarth | 481 c85 (Link to this contribution)
I do not think that the hon. Gentleman has grasped the central point, which is that the Lord Ashcrof...
Martin Linton | 481 c84-5 (Link to this contribution)
Of course it would. If it was unfair to remove the spending limits on candidates, it must be fair to...
Jonathan Djanogly | 481 c84 (Link to this contribution)
Given what has been said so far by many Members on both sides of the House, does the hon. Gentleman ...
Martin Linton | 481 c83-4 (Link to this contribution)
I start by welcoming the Bill. It is limited and focused on specifics, and it is intended to be. I w...
Tony Lloyd | 481 c93 (Link to this contribution)
Let us put this matter into context. I am told that in some constituencies Conservative candidates a...
Adam Afriyie | 481 c93 (Link to this contribution)
I have been listening carefully to the hon. Gentleman's remarks, and he is developing the interestin...
Tony Lloyd | 481 c91-2 (Link to this contribution)
I understand that point, but in this Bill we will probably not be engaged in fine-tuning it, so perh...
Martin Linton | 481 c91 (Link to this contribution)
The point about having a single limit on both national and local spending, as is done in Canada, is ...
Tony Lloyd | 481 c92-3 (Link to this contribution)
I have heard the hon. Gentleman make that point before, but he is wrong on two grounds. First, it is...
Lord Tyrie | 481 c92 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman has correctly quoted from Sir Hayden Phillips's report. I participated throughout...
Speaker | 481 c88 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I do not wish to stifle this interesting debate, but I am conscious that several Members wish...
Tony Lloyd | 481 c90-1 (Link to this contribution)
I commend the final comments of the hon. Member for Isle of Wight (Mr. Turner) that the electoral sy...
Andrew Turner | 481 c88-90 (Link to this contribution)
It is a great pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Gosport (Sir Peter Viggers)—and, inde...
Brian H Donohoe | 481 c47 (Link to this contribution)
How did my right hon. Friend come to the conclusion that the level at which a donation can be declar...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c62-3 (Link to this contribution)
If the Justice Secretary wants to put forward a proposal that constituency spending by a candidate s...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c55-6 (Link to this contribution)
As a former Labour leader used to say, I am glad that the right hon. Gentleman raised that point. We...
Lord Young of Cookham | 481 c44 (Link to this contribution)
With respect, the right hon. Gentleman must not be allowed to get away with that. If he refers to th...
Julian Lewis | 481 c79 (Link to this contribution)
The question that the hon. Lady must ask is whether the 10 per cent. of people who were lost from th...
David Howarth | 481 c85 (Link to this contribution)
I think that the hon. Gentleman should look at the existing legislation, which exempts from the nati...
Gavin Strang | 481 c69 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman can make that point and argue it. What we are discussing is an issue relating to ...
Lord Wills | 481 c123 (Link to this contribution)
Of course I can give my hon. Friend that assurance. That issue is fundamentally important.
These ar...
Tony Wright | 481 c109-10 (Link to this contribution)
I think that it would be extremely dangerous for rich individuals to dictate our political life, and...
Alan Whitehead | 481 c99-100 (Link to this contribution)
As one of the longest failed key seat Labour candidates in the south of England, I have always had s...
Kelvin Hopkins | 481 c107 (Link to this contribution)
As always, I am listening with great interest to my hon. Friend. He is absolutely right that money m...
Martin Linton | 481 c86-8 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend. I shall take that up with my old friend and sparring partner Michael Pinto-D...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c75 (Link to this contribution)
I can help the hon. Gentleman with that. Spending caps were not within Sir Hayden Phillips's terms o...
Lord Maude of Horsham | 481 c62 (Link to this contribution)
Sadly, in every way, Lord Mackay is no longer available—he is in another other place, and we miss hi...
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