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Offender Management Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Monday, 21 May 2007, in the House of Lords.
Offender Management Bill. Lords Committee stage second day. Clause 1 agreed to. Clause 2 under consideration. Part 1 of 2 records.

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Reference

692 c475-519 

Session

2006-07

Department

Home Office

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber

Related items

Offender Management Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 47-EN also published.
Thursday, 1 March 2007
Bills
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c499-502 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 18: 18: Clause 2, page 2, line 34, after ““State”” insert ““under any enactmen...
Lord Dholakia | 692 c503 (Link to this contribution) First, I welcome the Government’s explanation of the amendments in this group. The Local Government ...

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Lord Ramsbotham | 692 c502 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful for the care and detail with which the noble Baroness explained her amendments. I...
Lord Hylton | 692 c505 (Link to this contribution) Like my noble friend Lady Stern, I was grateful to the Minister for explaining the government amendm...
Earl of Listowel | 692 c505 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for the clear explanation that she gave earlier of the Government’s intentions,...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c505-7 (Link to this contribution) I thank all those who have contributed, especially the noble Lord, Lord Dholakia, for raising the is...
Baroness Stern | 692 c503-4 (Link to this contribution) I very much appreciate what the noble Baroness has told us; it certainly helped me to see my way thr...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 692 c504 (Link to this contribution) Where does this leavethe role of the regional offender managers? The explanation given by the Minist...
Viscount Bridgeman | 692 c504 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for pointing out the local arrangements, and government Amendment No. ...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 692 c504-5 (Link to this contribution) I support Amendment No. 127, tabled in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, on local area ag...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c507-8 (Link to this contribution) No. The noble Baroness has either misunderstood me, or I have been less clear than I should have. I ...
Baroness Stern | 692 c507 (Link to this contribution) I am slightly confused by one thing that the Minister said, which was that the regional offender man...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c507 (Link to this contribution) I have already referred to the duty to co-operate, which will be in the local government Bill, not t...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 692 c507 (Link to this contribution) Will we see any mention of the duty to co-operate in the Bill?
Lord Ramsbotham | 692 c509 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for what Members of the Committee have said about this and about my amendment. I shall...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c509 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 19: 19: Clause 2, page 2, line 35, leave out ““section”” and insert ““paragrap...
Lord Northbourne | 692 c508 (Link to this contribution) Is the Minister satisfied that the plans she outlines sufficiently take into account the financial i...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c509 (Link to this contribution) I know that the noble Lord speaks from painful experience. I have found the change in culture helpfu...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 692 c508 (Link to this contribution) Is the noble Baroness aware that Napo, the probation officers’ organisation, strongly believes that ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c508 (Link to this contribution) I hope that what I said earlier underlined how much we agree with my noble friend that local deliver...
Viscount Bridgeman | 692 c510 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 21: 21: Clause 2, page 2, line 37, at end insert— ““( ) The Secretary of State...
Lord Ramsbotham | 692 c510 (Link to this contribution) I support this amendment because it re-emphasises the important link between probation and the court...
Lord Dholakia | 692 c510 (Link to this contribution) I support this amendment for practical reasons. I served as a magistrate, and one of the most intere...
Lord Waddington | 692 c511 (Link to this contribution) One cannot underestimate the importance of the influence of judges and magistrates in the developmen...
Lord Judd | 692 c510 (Link to this contribution) I support this amendment because it is essential that sentencers understand the implications of what...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 692 c511 (Link to this contribution) I, too, support the amendment wholeheartedly, not least because it reflects exactly the work that we...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 692 c511-2 (Link to this contribution) I certainly support the amendment tabled by the noble Viscount, Lord Bridgeman. It takes me back to ...
Baroness Stern | 692 c513 (Link to this contribution) Can the Minister explain what structures there are with sentencers at regional level with whom it wo...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 692 c513 (Link to this contribution) The regional offender management structure will develop those links. We think that that structure wi...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 692 c513-5 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 22: 22: Clause 2, page 2, line 37, at end insert— ““( ) In carrying out his fu...
Viscount Bridgeman | 692 c513 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the wholly constructive support from all around the Chamber for the amendment. I f...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c518-9 (Link to this contribution) I say again that I am sorry that the noble Lord was unable to be with us to enjoy our earlier debate...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 692 c518 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Baroness for telling me that the answer to my question on why the Prison ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c516-8 (Link to this contribution) I have found this debate interesting, but perhaps I may gently remind the Committee that machinery-o...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 692 c515-6 (Link to this contribution) I express the gratitude of Members on these Benches to the noble Baroness, Lady Anelay, for raising ...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 692 c519 (Link to this contribution) I know that I have reached a milestone birthday this year, but even taking the pills I will not last...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 692 c519 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move thatthe House do now resume. In doing so, I suggest that the Committee stage begin aga...
Lord Dholakia | 692 c487 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend Lady Linklater is right to say that we see this as a probing amendment. The Delegate...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 692 c487 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for sending the details of the process that has been under way for some time to...
Lord Northbourne | 692 c487 (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment. It is extraordinarily strange that the Secretary of State should be given w...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 692 c486-7 (Link to this contribution) I want to ask a brief question arising out of my understanding of this amendment, which I see as a p...
Lord Ramsbotham | 692 c486 (Link to this contribution) It is important to explain why the Secretary of State should be required to use the affirmative reso...
Lord Filkin | 692 c486 (Link to this contribution) I have paid close attention to the noble Lord’s words during the 11 minutes that he has been speakin...
Lord Ramsbotham | 692 c483-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 14: 14: Clause 1, page 2, line 25, at end insert— ““(6) Regulations made under...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 692 c482-3 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken. The noble Lord, Lord Dholakia, was right to pick u...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 692 c488-9 (Link to this contribution) It is perhaps worth reminding the Committee that we are discussing the relative merits of having eit...
Earl of Listowel | 692 c487-8 (Link to this contribution) When listening to my noble friend Lord Ramsbotham, I was reminded of the reforms undertaken by the G...
Lord Ramsbotham | 692 c489-90 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord for his explanation, particularly for what he said about the negativ...
Lord Ramsbotham | 692 c490 (Link to this contribution) I have not said all that I was going to say. It is extremely important that we bear in mind the fact...
Lord Filkin | 692 c490 (Link to this contribution) Is the noble Lord withdrawing his amendment or pushing it to a vote?
Baroness Gibson of Market Rasen | 692 c492 (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment, which would, as the noble Baroness said, ensure better co-operation between...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 692 c490-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 15: 15: After Clause 1, insert the following new Clause— ““Duty to co-operate ...
Lord Judd | 692 c493 (Link to this contribution) I warmly support the amendment and draw my noble friend’s attention to her words from previous delib...
Baroness Stern | 692 c492-3 (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment. I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Linklater, for bringing the Scott...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 692 c493 (Link to this contribution) I have been intrigued by the pattern in Scotland, which seems to be a model that we should all bear ...
Earl of Listowel | 692 c493 (Link to this contribution) It may be helpful to point out that the Government already have this policy with regard to children ...
Lord Dholakia | 692 c493-4 (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment, to which I put my name. At times it is well worth looking not only at the i...
Lord Waddington | 692 c494 (Link to this contribution) I have listened carefully to this debate. I hope that the Minister does not just tell us that the am...
Lord Hylton | 692 c497 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is quite right to draw our attention to Clause 3. It enables the Secretary of State to ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c497 (Link to this contribution) I hear what the noble Lord says; that is why I invited the Committee’s attention to Clause 3(3)(a). ...
Lord Dholakia | 692 c497 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that explanation. However, there is very little difference between what the legisl...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c494-7 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Waddington, has foreshadowed what I am going to say, but that does not diminish...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 692 c498-9 (Link to this contribution) First, I thank everyone who has contributed so constructively to this short but interesting debate. ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c498 (Link to this contribution) It does, because the whole nature of what we seek to commission is to go across the piece. The Priso...
Baroness Gibson of Market Rasen | 692 c498 (Link to this contribution) DoesClause 3(3)(a) cover the Prison Service, a point which I was particularly interested in?
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c498 (Link to this contribution) That is why we are making changes to local area agreements and will be able to put them on a statuto...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c476-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not saying that he may not, but the functions of the Lord Chancellor and those of the...
Lord Waddington | 692 c476 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, is the Minister saying that the Secretary of State for Justice may not also be the Lord Ch...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c482 (Link to this contribution) I reassure the noble Lord that we are taking cost into consideration. The Bill is an opportunity bet...
Lord Dholakia | 692 c482 (Link to this contribution) I accept that this is a tidying-up process, but has the Minister considered the cost implications fo...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c480-2 (Link to this contribution) The provision is very much seen as a tidying-up amendment. I remind the Committee that it will alway...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 692 c480 (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment. As we all know, and as has been mentioned, conditional cautions were introd...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 692 c479 (Link to this contribution) There is a larger underlying point that we should mark as we go past. If we are introducing contesta...
Lord Hylton | 692 c479 (Link to this contribution) In the Bill, "““persons to whom conditional cautions are given””" should not be included with those...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 692 c478-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 13: 13: Clause 1, page 2, line 24, leave out ““or persons to whom conditional ...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 692 c477-8 (Link to this contribution) I was intrigued by the way in which the Minister said that changes used to happen quickly and withou...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c475-6 (Link to this contribution) I am always hesitant to disappoint the noble Baroness, but I hope that I will not disappoint her on ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 692 c475 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that the House do now again resolve itself into Committee on this Bill. Mov...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 692 c475 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 12: 12: Clause 1, page 2, line 22, leave out ““Secretary of State”” and insert...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 692 c512-3 (Link to this contribution) The amendment touches upon this crucial issue, and I am grateful to all noble Lords who have contrib...
Lord Ramsbotham | 692 c494 (Link to this contribution) I rise not just to support the noble Baroness, Lady Linklater, but to associate myself with what the...

Subjects

Crime prevention
Crime
Administration of justice
Offenders
Lord Chancellor's Department
Police cautions
Probation
National Offender Management Service
Rehabilitation
Trusts
Reoffenders
Local area agreements
Probation boards
Probation trusts

Legislation

Offender Management Bill 2006-07

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