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European Union (Referendum) Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Friday, 31 January 2014, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage (second day). Clause 1 amendment agreed to on division (198 to 134). Clause 1, as amended, agreed to. Closure motion. Division on a Motion that the Question be now put. Tellers for the Not-Contents were not appointed, so the Division could not proceed. Motion agreed. Motion that the House do now resume, agreed to on division (180 to 130).

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

751 cc1469-1545 

Session

2013-14

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
European Union (Referendum) Bill 2013-14. Brought from the Commons.
Monday, 2 December 2013
Bills
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 751 c1469 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock

50: Clause 1, page 1, line 12, leave out subsection ...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 751 c1469 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise if I appear less lucid than I hope I usually am.


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Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 751 c1469 (Link to this contribution)

Who said never? I have just travelled back overnight from the United States.

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 751 c1469 (Link to this contribution)

I was there with the noble Lord, Lord Jopling, who told me that he would have made a lot of money...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 751 cc1469-1471 (Link to this contribution)

I will get on with it, as my noble friend said.

I was there with the European Union Sub-Com...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 751 c1471 (Link to this contribution)

The record shows that my critics are completely wrong, as my noble friends rightly agree. All the...

Baroness D'Souza | 751 c1471 (Link to this contribution)

I remind your Lordships that if Amendment 50 is agreed, I cannot call Amendment 50A by reason of ...

Lord Anderson of Swansea | 751 cc1471-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as so often, I follow my noble friend Lord Foulkes. Our names appear on a number of the...

Baroness Andrews | 751 cc1473-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak briefly in support of Amendment 50 and to address the issue of delegati...

Lord Cormack | 751 c1475 (Link to this contribution)

This Bill came to this House from another place. In that other place, it was not opposed properly...

Lord Anderson of Swansea | 751 c1475 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord has properly said that a week ago, this House passed two constructive am...

Lord Cormack | 751 c1475 (Link to this contribution)

I made my position very plain at Second Reading. I did not support those amendments because I bel...

Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 751 c1475 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord has spoken about sticking to the rules in your Lordships’ House. I liste...

Lord Richard | 751 cc1475-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the last thing I am prepared to do, with great respect, is to have a lecture from the n...

Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 751 c1476 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Richard, in addressing his comments to the noble Lord, Lord Cormack, several...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 751 c1477 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to the same amendment in this group to which the noble Lord, Lord Richard,...

Lord Spicer | 751 c1477 (Link to this contribution)

May I ask the noble Lord whether he is in favour of joining the monetary union?

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 751 c1477 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord may very well ask me that, but it would take me too long to answer while at the sa...

Lord Spicer | 751 c1477 (Link to this contribution)

The reason why I ask him that is that, if he was in favour of joining, under the treaty of Maastr...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 751 c1477 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord has shifted between two tenses. He first asked whether I was in favour of joining ...

Lord Finkelstein | 751 c1478 (Link to this contribution)

Is it the noble Lord’s contention as a constitutional principle that this Parliament can never de...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 751 c1478 (Link to this contribution)

If the noble Lord had listened to what I said, which I fear he did not, he would know that I did ...

Lord Giddens | 751 c1478 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am one of those who believe that it is sensible to discuss the content of the Bill, i...

Lord Triesman | 751 cc1478-1481 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was not passing up the opportunity, I just could not believe that no one else was sta...

Lord Cormack | 751 c1479 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord has made a number of constructive and sensible speeches from the Dispatch Box. Is ...

Lord Triesman | 751 cc1479-1482 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am speaking for myself in this House. This is a Private Member’s Bill and all I can d...

Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 751 c1482 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise briefly to point out to the House that the House of Lords Constitution Committee...

Lord Dobbs | 751 cc1482-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, another hour, another group of amendments. We have 15 groups of amendments to get throu...

Lord Dobbs | 751 c1483 (Link to this contribution)

I am only a minute into my speech, but of course I will make way for the noble Lord.

Lord Lipsey | 751 c1483 (Link to this contribution)

Last week, when we were proceeding at precisely this pace, the noble Lord said that we were makin...

Lord Dobbs | 751 c1483 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord has made his point, again. I think that it is a point that he made last week in Co...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 751 cc1483-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with respect, the noble Lord, Lord Dobbs, has not addressed any of the amendments or re...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 751 c1484 (Link to this contribution)

This is a very important point. My noble friend Lord Anderson has been a Member of the other plac...

Baroness Warsi | 751 c1484 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if the House really wants to know the answer then maybe I should give it. In the Box we...

Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean | 751 cc1484-5 (Link to this contribution)

Will those government officials who are dealing with the strictly government parts of this Bill—I...

Lord Hill of Oareford | 751 c1485 (Link to this contribution)

Let me help the House because I know there has been some confusion. The Leader of the Opposition ...

Baroness Jay of Paddington | 751 c1485 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hesitate to intervene because, unfortunately, for various reasons, I could not be her...

Lord Hill of Oareford | 751 c1486 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness sums up the position quite well in the sense that if there were a Liberal Demo...

Baroness Jay of Paddington | 751 c1486 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to intervene again, but has an approach been made by the Foreign Office, or indeed by ...

Baroness Warsi | 751 c1486 (Link to this contribution)

I can inform the House that officials provide the same level of support and the same information ...

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 751 c1486 (Link to this contribution)

It is quite difficult when there is no Liberal Democrat Minister from the Foreign Office. I know ...

Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 751 c1486 (Link to this contribution)

My name and that of my party have been invoked, so it is important for me to clarify where we are...

Lord Hill of Oareford | 751 c1487 (Link to this contribution)

I shall be brief because I do not think there is much I can add. I think I have set the position ...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 751 c1487 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a very illuminating intervention in my reply to the debate. However, with...

Lord Hill of Oareford | 751 c1487 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend Lady Warsi was extremely clear about that as well. As it happens, there is a conv...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 751 c1487 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the Leader of the House. That is absolutely clear. I now return to what I w...

751 c1487 (Link to this contribution)

Former Leader of the House.

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 751 cc1487-8 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, former Leader of the House.

This Bill has been criticised by people like the noble Lor...

Lord Cormack | 751 c1488 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Triesman, made it quite plain that he was speaking for himself.

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 751 c1488 (Link to this contribution)

He was not speaking for me—I wish he had been, if you see what I mean—but I agree with everything...

Lord Turnbull | 751 c1488 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Turnbull

50A: Clause 1, page 1, line 14, at end insert—

“(7) No o...

Lord Turnbull | 751 cc1488-1490 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not intend to move Amendment 72, the other amendment in this group.

The nobl...

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 751 cc1490-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I strongly support Amendment 50A from the noble Lord, Lord Turnbull. It is most unusual...

Lord Lamont of Lerwick | 751 c1491 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I totally agree with the noble Lord that if there were to be a referendum the British p...

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 751 cc1491-2 (Link to this contribution)

Precisely the same argument could be applied to the second of the amendments we made last week. T...

Lord Low of Dalston | 751 c1492 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, can I just ask the noble Lord for a point of clarification before he concludes? He said...

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 751 c1492 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise. I was unclear. I was not commenting on the amendments that have been discussed—those...

Lord Low of Dalston | 751 c1492 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord. That is very helpful. Thank you very much.

Lord Grenfell | 751 cc1492-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I put my name to this amendment because I believe its purpose to be profoundly importan...

Lord Shipley | 751 cc1493-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name, too, is attached to Amendments 50A and 72. I start with the principles establi...

Lord Trefgarne | 751 c1494 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise to my noble friend. We are considering Amendments 50A and 72. I am not entirely clear...

Lord Shipley | 751 cc1494-5 (Link to this contribution)

I am speaking to both of them, because they are about the Government and the movers of the Bill e...

Lord Lea of Crondall | 751 c1495 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is incumbent on this occasion—it was not done with the previous group of amendments—...

Lord Sherbourne of Didsbury | 751 c1495 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will intervene very briefly in response to my noble friend Lord Shipley, who had call...

Lord Shipley | 751 c1496 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I did not say that it did; the point is important because the Electoral Commission made...

Lord Wigley | 751 cc1496-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will intervene briefly in this debate. The debate would be that much shorter if the n...

Lord Tugendhat | 751 c1497 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment put forward by the noble Lord, Lord Turnbull, for the reasons w...

Lord Dobbs | 751 c1497 (Link to this contribution)

I have never made that allegation. I have always accepted that there are men and women of great p...

Lord Tugendhat | 751 cc1497-8 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend used the word “oppose”, but I do not oppose the Bill, and neither do I oppose a r...

Lord Giddens | 751 c1498 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful for that intervention on the part of the noble Lord, Lord Tugendhat. I am a pr...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 751 cc1498-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Turnbull, and many of the a...

Lord Lamont of Lerwick | 751 c1499 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree with the noble Lord, and with the point that has been made widely, that all the ...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 751 c1499 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure the noble Lord is right, but the extent to which the Prime Minister carries his party w...

Lord Anderson of Swansea | 751 cc1499-1501 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if the noble Lord, Lord Dobbs, says that he will accept this amendment, I will very hap...

Viscount Eccles | 751 c1501 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, at some time, preferably not today, I should like to hear about the implications of a y...

Baroness Liddell of Coatdyke | 751 cc1501-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment. In an earlier intervention, the noble Lord, Lord Hannay, drew ...

Lord Davies of Stamford | 751 cc1502-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I take it as pretty certain that there will ultimately be a referendum because, at some...

Lord Giddens | 751 c1504 (Link to this contribution)

I have not heard a single noble Lord object to the content of this amendment. The only one seems ...

Lord Dobbs | 751 c1504 (Link to this contribution)

Of course I could but quite clearly I am not going to. It would deprive us of hearing the noble L...

Lord Kinnock | 751 cc1504-6 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord. Although I endorse entirely the appeal made by my noble friend L...

Lord Armstrong of Ilminster | 751 c1506 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall be brief. The core purposes of this Bill are that there should be an “in or out...

Lord Liddle | 751 c1507 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will not detain the House for long. I think that there is pretty strong support all a...

Lord Lamont of Lerwick | 751 c1507 (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord recall that when he worked in Downing Street and the noble Lord, Lord Triesma...

Lord Liddle | 751 cc1507-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that I do not, no. What I do know about the Labour Government is that when they were ...

Viscount Eccles | 751 c1508 (Link to this contribution)

I would be grateful if the noble Lord would agree that I personally do not have a case to answer ...

Lord Liddle | 751 c1508 (Link to this contribution)

I have the greatest respect for the noble Viscount, Lord Eccles. I am not worried about the resul...

Lord Liddle | 751 cc1508-9 (Link to this contribution)

Conservative Back-Benchers, I hasten to add, not Liberal Democrat ones. The Prime Minister's resp...

Lord Trefgarne | 751 c1509 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before the noble Lord finally sits down, will he explain to me why, when legislation wa...

Lord Liddle | 751 c1509 (Link to this contribution)

If I recollect correctly—I took an active part in that campaign—there was an assessment of the re...

Baroness Warsi | 751 c1509 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there is a government view on membership of the European Union, which is that the UK’s ...

Lord Dobbs | 751 cc1509-1511 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been another lengthy debate and I do not wish to prolong it. First, I will jus...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 751 c1510 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the noble Lord for giving way, but I am afraid that he is yet again caricat...

Lord Dobbs | 751 c1510 (Link to this contribution)

If the noble Lord will forgive me, that is not what the amendment seeks. It is not about what the...

Lord Turnbull | 751 cc1510-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been another hour and a half—but I do not begrudge that—of very interesting di...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 751 c1512 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Lord sits down, can he indicate whose intention he has in mind? The amendment re...

Lord Turnbull | 751 c1512 (Link to this contribution)

That would be the responsibility of the Government who inherit the responsibility for negotiating...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 751 c1512 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock

52: After Clause 1, insert the following new Clause—...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 751 c1512 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment can be dealt with relatively briefly—by me, certainly. The amendment bef...

Lord Anderson of Swansea | 751 c1512 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Anderson of Swansea

53: After Clause 1, line 8, at end insert “; and

Lord Anderson of Swansea | 751 cc1512-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my amendment relates to Gibraltar. Many of us in this House have a special concern for ...

Lord Wigley | 751 cc1516-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sorry that I missed the opening remarks of the noble Lord, Lord Foulkes. His brevi...

Lord Triesman | 751 cc1517-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a fair enough amendment. Were we to have been conducting this debate 25 or 30 y...

Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 751 c1518 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, one of the other things that we want to seek in a referendum would be transparency, as ...

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 751 cc1518-1520 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before the noble Lord, Lord Dobbs, replies to the debate, I should like to speak briefl...

Lord Woolmer of Leeds | 751 c1520 (Link to this contribution)

Following up on that contribution to the debate, the Isle of Man, which is a Crown dependency, is...

Baroness Quin | 751 c1520 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there is no doubt that the inclusion of Gibraltar was greatly welcomed in Gibraltar its...

Lord Dobbs | 751 c1521 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I take the point about Gibraltar. The drafters of the Bill had not chosen to dis...

Lord Roper | 751 c1521 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in many cases, they have been in schedules to proposals for referendums. This time, the...

Lord Dobbs | 751 cc1521-2 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord is entirely right—they will come back to this House, which is the point I was maki...

Lord Anderson of Swansea | 751 c1522 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I moved the amendment in respect of Gibraltar—

Lord Dobbs | 751 c1522 (Link to this contribution)

I beg pardon of the noble Lord, Lord Anderson, if I overlooked him. I think we have never gone in...

Lord Anderson of Swansea | 751 cc1522-3 (Link to this contribution)

That is the story of my life and of Gibraltar. However, I hope that the noble Lord will recognise...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 751 c1523 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I assure the noble Lord, Lord Dobbs, that I have not spoken to the Guardian about this ...

Lord Williams of Elvel | 751 c1524 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Williams of Elvel

55: After Clause 1, insert the following new Clause—<...

Lord Williams of Elvel | 751 c1524 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it may be for the convenience of the Committee if, in moving Amendment 55, I also touch...

Lord Trefgarne | 751 c1524 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for interrupting the noble Lord but I hope that the sound system can be adj...

Lord Williams of Elvel | 751 c1524 (Link to this contribution)

I will do my best. Can the noble Lord hear me now?

Lord Williams of Elvel | 751 cc1524-8 (Link to this contribution)

This is a probing amendment. The question is: how can the noble Lord, Lord Dobbs, and the House i...

Lord Wigley | 751 cc1526-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, after speaking to Amendment 75 in my name, I shall come back to the interesting points ...

Lord Giddens | 751 c1529 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend Lord Williams raises a significant set of issues. There plainly could be big disc...

Lord Liddle | 751 c1530 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will be very brief on this point, but my noble friend Lord Williams has raised an iss...

Lord Dobbs | 751 c1530 (Link to this contribution)

Can the noble Lord clarify whether, when he says that this venture poses risks, he is talking abo...

Lord Liddle | 751 c1530 (Link to this contribution)

I am talking about an “in or out” referendum, which this Bill is designed to generate in quick ti...

Lord Dobbs | 751 cc1530-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lords, Lord Williams and Lord Wigley, for the way they introduced thi...

Lord Wigley | 751 c1531 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord touches on a fundamental here. The implication of what he is saying is that if Sco...

Lord Dobbs | 751 c1531 (Link to this contribution)

As I have said, I think that the issue would go far beyond the scope of any one single Bill. He a...

Lord Williams of Elvel | 751 c1531 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Dobbs. As I said, this was a probing amendment, intended si...

Lord Shipley | 751 c1531 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Shipley

57: Clause 2, page 1, line 18, leave out “parliamentary electio...

Lord Shipley | 751 cc1531-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I should make it clear at the outset that this is a probing amendment at this stage. We...

Baroness Quin | 751 c1533 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak briefly in support of this amendment, to which I am a co-signatory; I very...

Lord Bowness | 751 cc1533-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I put my name to this amendment; I do not want to add very much to what has already bee...

Lord Kinnock | 751 cc1534-5 (Link to this contribution)

This is another amendment which, I am certain, is moved with a helpful motivation, and one that I...

Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 751 cc1535-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, support this amendment. The alternative vote referendum, the legislation for wh...

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 751 c1536 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is on the amendment so ably moved by the noble Lord, Lord Shipley. I have very ...

Lord Grenfell | 751 cc1536-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I strongly support the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Shipley. I declare what may be...

Lord Teverson | 751 c1537 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall be slightly contentious because I am not sure I completely agree with the argum...

Baroness Whitaker | 751 c1537 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall put a contrary point. If residency is to be the test of voting, as it is in oth...

Lord Teverson | 751 c1537 (Link to this contribution)

Did the noble Lord, Lord Giddens, want to make a comment?

Lord Giddens | 751 c1537 (Link to this contribution)

I hope the noble Lord will accept that that all British citizens living in EU countries should ha...

Lord Teverson | 751 c1537 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I do. I am just putting a principle. My noble friend kindly introduced this probing amendmen...

Lord Davies of Stamford | 751 c1537 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord says that the vote should be based purely on citizenship, whether the voter is res...

Lord Teverson | 751 c1537 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I should state that I have dual Irish and British nationality. I am putting forward an ...

Lord Triesman | 751 c1538 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have been very concerned to understand how the conduct of the debate in the course of...

Lord Cormack | 751 c1538 (Link to this contribution)

I express the hope that it is not as a result of our friendly exchange this morning that the nobl...

Lord Triesman | 751 c1538 (Link to this contribution)

I promise that I shall be even closer to the noble Lord later.

Lord Liddle | 751 cc1538-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this debate has raised another set of issues that need to be properly and thoroughly ad...

Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 751 c1539 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I can see the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, nodding at points on the issue of the views tha...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 751 c1539 (Link to this contribution)

I have been tempted to rise. Actually I was not in this House when my late noble friend Lord MacK...

Lord Dobbs | 751 c1540 (Link to this contribution)

Have your Lordships finished? This, of course, is a very simple amendment, but the discussion has...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 751 cc1540-1 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the noble Lord for giving way, but he seems now to be in the process of rej...

Lord Dobbs | 751 c1541 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord for his advice. I was hoping that he was going to get up and give me anoth...

Lord Richard | 751 c1541 (Link to this contribution)

Would the noble Lord like to examine the situation of the Irish of this country?

Lord Dobbs | 751 c1541 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, they are included on the parliamentary register if they apply. This is the register whi...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 751 c1541 (Link to this contribution)

I did not say that it was the worst possible measurement for any election. I happen to support th...

Lord Dobbs | 751 cc1541-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am suggesting that we have seen that these are muddy waters. We have to draw a line somewhere. ...

Lord Shipley | 751 c1542 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for the depth of this discussion, and in particular to the noble Lord, Lo...

Lord Dobbs | 751 c1542 (Link to this contribution)

On that point, it would have been very helpful if these had been grouped together; we could then ...

Lord Shipley | 751 c1542 (Link to this contribution)

The point is taken; perhaps we can do that on Report, because no doubt we shall discuss this agai...

Lord Lipsey | 751 cc1542-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I beg to move that the House do now resume. I had hoped that the noble Baroness, Lady A...

Lord Geddes | 751 c1543 (Link to this contribution)

The Question is that the House be resumed. Since this is a somewhat unusual situation, I should a...

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 751 cc1543-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, clearly, I listened very carefully to what the noble Lord, Lord Lipsey, said. My role a...

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 751 c1544 (Link to this contribution)

It is clear that we have made less progress. Noble Lords may disagree with me on whether they are...

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 751 c1544 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if the Motion is agreed, I will not be able to offer my noble friend Lord Dobbs more ti...

Baroness Morris of Bolton | 751 c1544 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am instructed by order of the House to say that the Motion “That the Question be now ...

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 751 c1544 (Link to this contribution)

I wish to move it.

3.11 pm

Division on the Motion that the Question be now put. Telle...

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