Terrorist Asset-Freezing etc. Bill (HL). Second reading debate agreed to on question. Programme motion on proceedings in Committee, on Report, Third Reading and any other proceedings, agreed to on question. Queen's recommendation signified. Money resolution agreed to.
Terrorist Asset-Freezing etc. Bill [Lords]
Debate on bills on Monday, 15 November 2010,
in the House of Commons,
led by Mark Hoban.
The answering
member was Lord Hanson of Flint.
About these Parliamentary proceedings
Reference
518 c675-715 Session
2010-12Legislative stage
Second readingChamber / Committee
House of Commons chamberRelated items
Terrorist Asset-Freezing etc. Bill (HL). Brought from the Lords. Explanatory Notes Bill 102-EN also published.
Tuesday, 2 November 2010
Bills
House of Commons
Tuesday, 2 November 2010
Bills
House of Commons
Terrorist Asset-Freezing etc. Bill (Ministerial Correction)
Tuesday, 23 November 2010
Written statements
House of Commons
Tuesday, 23 November 2010
Written statements
House of Commons
Legislative scrutiny: Terrorist Asset-Freezing etc. Bill (second report). Human Rights Joint Select Committee fourth report with written evidence and formal minutes.
Tuesday, 9 November 2010
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Tuesday, 9 November 2010
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Mark Hoban | 518 c676-8 (Link to this contribution)
May I just dispute the right hon. Gentleman's point about the Bill being rushed through? It has not ...
Keith Vaz | 518 c676 (Link to this contribution)
No one is disputing the importance of this legislation or the legislation that it replaces, or the d...
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Mark Hoban | 518 c675-6 (Link to this contribution)
In regard to the Bill, and to the legislation that it will replace, assets are frozen where there is...
Tom Brake | 518 c680 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister will be aware that Lord Wallace of Tankerness said that"““the general presumption is th...
Mark Hoban | 518 c680 (Link to this contribution)
Yes. As I have said, we have issued a number of licences, which I understand run alongside the regim...
Julian Huppert | 518 c680 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps the Minister could help me. Nothing in the Bill makes it clear that the Treasury is required...
Mark Hoban | 518 c678-80 (Link to this contribution)
The reasonable belief test is less than the balance of probabilities test, as I am sure the hon. Gen...
Julian Huppert | 518 c678 (Link to this contribution)
As I am sure the Minister understands, I am now trying to represent David Howarth—he is my constitue...
Mark Hoban | 518 c678 (Link to this contribution)
We might freeze assets in the UK that belong to terrorists who operate overseas in a more benign env...
Julian Huppert | 518 c678 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister mentioned tying freezing to arrest, which I agree with, but can he give examples of whe...
Keith Vaz | 518 c675 (Link to this contribution)
I understand that 205 accounts have been frozen under the previous legislation. Does the Minister kn...
Mark Hoban | 518 c675 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.
The Bill makes provision for imposing finan...
Mark Hoban | 518 c680-1 (Link to this contribution)
I do not want to get into giving hypothetical answers to hypothetical questions. If the hon. Gentlem...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 518 c681-2 (Link to this contribution)
For the avoidance of any doubt, I should say that the Opposition support the aims and objectives of ...
Hywel Francis | 518 c682 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my right hon. Friend for giving way and for his warm words of support for our report. Can he...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 518 c682 (Link to this contribution)
I am pleased to see that the Chairman of the Joint Committee is in the Chamber and I will certainly ...
Julian Huppert | 518 c683 (Link to this contribution)
On the subject of the standard of proof, is the right hon. Gentleman saying that it is the Oppositio...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 518 c682-3 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend has raised a number of issues in the report, and those need to be examined. However, ...
Keith Vaz | 518 c683 (Link to this contribution)
Although I obviously accept the thrust of what my right hon. Friend says, there seems to be somethin...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 518 c683 (Link to this contribution)
The official Opposition's view is the same as that underlying the Bill that is before the House. We ...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 518 c683-6 (Link to this contribution)
First, may I assure my right hon. Friend that there is no love-in between the Minister and myself? W...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 518 c713 (Link to this contribution)
I tend to agree with the Minister, as I indicated in my discussions, but can he tell the House wheth...
David Gauke | 518 c713 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the point that the right hon. Gentleman makes. The final decision on that is still...
Julian Huppert | 518 c713 (Link to this contribution)
The Government have recently started taking the approach that independent people can be scrutinised ...
David Gauke | 518 c713-5 (Link to this contribution)
I am on the record many times as arguing why Parliament should have a significant role in a number o...
Julian Huppert | 518 c711 (Link to this contribution)
I understand the Minister's point about those not in Britain, but what about those who are, and henc...
David Gauke | 518 c711-3 (Link to this contribution)
Given the flexibility that we need, I believe that we have struck the right balance by allowing an i...
Julian Huppert | 518 c694-6 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed, but I still consider it to be a relatively small amount. It is certainly a smaller amount th...
Julian Huppert | 518 c694 (Link to this contribution)
I am not entirely sure how that is relevant to what I was saying, but I do indeed find it astonishin...
Matt Hancock | 518 c694 (Link to this contribution)
I understand the figure of just under £290,000 to be the amount that is currently frozen, rather tha...
Julian Huppert | 518 c693-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am afraid that the hon. Gentleman is not correct about that. There are cases where the Treasury de...
Keith Vaz | 518 c694 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman share my concern about the amount of money that has been seized—about £290,0...
Julian Huppert | 518 c691-2 (Link to this contribution)
It is a great pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Leicester East (Keith Vaz), who chairs th...
Keith Vaz | 518 c689-91 (Link to this contribution)
The point that the leader of the Welsh nationalists makes is absolutely right. Even though there is ...
Elfyn Llwyd | 518 c689 (Link to this contribution)
I was referring to the latest Dangerous Dogs Act, which was passed in 1991. The right hon. Gentleman...
Keith Vaz | 518 c689 (Link to this contribution)
I give way to the leader of the Welsh nationalists.
Elfyn Llwyd | 518 c689 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman will recall the unanimity of view on the Dangerous Dogs Act, but it was not...
Keith Vaz | 518 c689 (Link to this contribution)
I think that was 1874, which was before even I entered the House, but I understand what the hon. Gen...
Elfyn Llwyd | 518 c689 (Link to this contribution)
No, I meant the Dangerous Dogs Act 19—
Speaker | 518 c689 (Link to this contribution)
Order. Shall I vacate my seat while you two have a chat? Please can we have no sedentary interventio...
Matt Hancock | 518 c686-8 (Link to this contribution)
I think that hon. Members on both sides of the House recognise the importance of the Bill, of implem...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 518 c688 (Link to this contribution)
For the sake of clarification, my right hon. Friend the Member for Morley and Outwood (Ed Balls) wil...
Matt Hancock | 518 c688 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure that the review will seek that balance. My question is whether the Opposition will have a ...
Keith Vaz | 518 c688-9 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for West Suffolk (Matthew Hancock), who is obviously know...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 518 c686 (Link to this contribution)
I worked in Northern Ireland for two years, but my mind went completely blank then. My hon. Friend t...
Julian Huppert | 518 c710 (Link to this contribution)
Does the Minister genuinely think it appropriate to freeze people's assets when the Treasury believe...
David Gauke | 518 c708 (Link to this contribution)
The current figure is £140,000, as I said. The figure that the right hon. Gentleman talks about is £...
Keith Vaz | 518 c708-9 (Link to this contribution)
I think the fault is perhaps in the drafting of the written statement. It states:"““As of 30 Septemb...
David Gauke | 518 c711 (Link to this contribution)
I reiterate that it is necessary to have a tool available to use at an early stage, for preventive r...
Kerry McCarthy | 518 c706 (Link to this contribution)
Would the hon. Member for Cambridge like to intervene now, so that I can answer both hon. Members at...
Keith Vaz | 518 c708 (Link to this contribution)
We clearly understand that it takes only a small amount of money in certain circumstances, but will ...
David Gauke | 518 c707-8 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to be able to conclude today's Second Reading debate. This is a most important Bill...
Kerry McCarthy | 518 c706-7 (Link to this contribution)
We welcome the fact that the reasonable suspicion test is to be in place for only 30 days before it ...
Julian Huppert | 518 c706 (Link to this contribution)
I was going to ask a very similar question of the hon. Lady. Will she clarify the Opposition's polic...
David Simpson | 518 c703-5 (Link to this contribution)
The Bill is a sincere attempt to deal with important issues. As such, I give it a very general welco...
Kerry McCarthy | 518 c706 (Link to this contribution)
I am spoiled for choice! I shall give way first to the hon. Member for Hexham.
Guy Opperman | 518 c706 (Link to this contribution)
I have no issue with the fact that I have been chosen over Cambridge. Do the Opposition have a speci...
Elfyn Llwyd | 518 c697-8 (Link to this contribution)
I believe that we need a system of asset freezing. It would be idiotic for anyone to argue that that...
Guy Opperman | 518 c701-3 (Link to this contribution)
I remind the House of my former profession as a barrister, and I compliment the hon. Member for Dwyf...
Elfyn Llwyd | 518 c699-701 (Link to this contribution)
I do not disagree with that. We are a member of the UN, and we need to co-operate, and I do not disa...
Matt Hancock | 518 c692-3 (Link to this contribution)
I am trying to follow the hon. Member's argument, but does not the concept of a judicial implementat...
David Gauke | 518 c709-10 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman's comments are helpful, as always, and I am sure they have been duly noted....
Kerry McCarthy | 518 c705-6 (Link to this contribution)
As my right hon. Friend the Member for Delyn (Mr Hanson) said at the beginning of the debate on Seco...
Sajid Javid | 518 c698 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is making some fine points, but does he accept that global co-operation is requir...
Notes
Minister's answer to Keith Vaz (c708) on the terrorist asset freezing regime corrected on 23 November 2010 at 519 c13WS.
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