Energy Bill. Report Stage. New Clause 4 negatived on division (250 votes to 210). Queen's consent signified. Prince of Wales's consent signified. Third reading debate. Agreed to on question. Bill passed.
Energy Bill
Debate on bills on Wednesday, 30 April 2008,
in the House of Commons,
led by Malcolm Wicks.
The answering
member was Alan Duncan.
About these Parliamentary proceedings
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475 c312-416, (corrigendum) 550;475 c312-416 Session
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Proceeding contributions
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c316 (Link to this contribution)
Obviously, the time scales are important, and they are likely to be long. It is not possible to say ...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c316 (Link to this contribution)
I am happy to give way, but then I want to make some progress.
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Steve Webb | 475 c316 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful. The form of words used by the Department has always been ““the full cost”” of decommi...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c316-7 (Link to this contribution)
When it comes to the cost of decommissioning the plant, it is relatively straightforward, although t...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c317 (Link to this contribution)
The operator would also make a contribution to the fixed costs, but let me make some progress.
The ...
Steve Webb | 475 c317 (Link to this contribution)
I am trying to distinguish between marginal and average costs. If extra waste is produced because I ...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c317 (Link to this contribution)
With respect, may I make a little more progress?
The fixed unit price and risk premium will provide...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c312 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Charles Hendry | 475 c313 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for tabling the amendments. It seems sensible to address this potentia...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c313 (Link to this contribution)
Let me reply to that point, which featured in our Committee debates. We all recognise that with the ...
Speaker | 475 c312 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss Government amendments Nos. 2 and 3.
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c312-3 (Link to this contribution)
The purpose of these technical amendments is to prevent gas storage and unloading developments from ...
Paddy Tipping | 475 c315 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister remind us whether the Bill applies to Scotland? Like him, I welcome the comments f...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c315 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the interest in the issue from Scotland. We are introducing a regime to put into practice ...
Mike Weir | 475 c315 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister says that before such projects go ahead, provision will have to be made for cost, but w...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c314-5 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
This issue attracted a good deal of attention...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c315-6 (Link to this contribution)
That is also my understanding. Some in Scotland are saying no to nuclear, so the Bill's provisions i...
Sammy Wilson | 475 c322 (Link to this contribution)
I understand where the hon. Gentleman is coming from, but will he therefore outline the Liberal Demo...
Martin Horwood | 475 c322 (Link to this contribution)
It is welcome to have before us a measure that attempts clarification, as the hon. Member for Wealde...
Stephen Ladyman | 475 c322 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Martin Horwood | 475 c322 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman raises a quite different point that does not relate to the Bill, so I shall pass ...
Elliot Morley | 475 c321 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the thrust of the new clause. It is disgraceful that the nuclear sector has over the decad...
Charles Hendry | 475 c320-1 (Link to this contribution)
That is a valid point. If the assumption in the early days was that five nuclear power stations woul...
Elliot Morley | 475 c321-2 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is a mind reader, because that was the second point that I was going to raise. Th...
Martin Horwood | 475 c322 (Link to this contribution)
I shall not give way, as I wish to make some progress.
Charles Hendry | 475 c322 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Lembit Opik | 475 c318 (Link to this contribution)
I want to ask about practice. Why is the Minister confident that the new clause provides a mechanism...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c318 (Link to this contribution)
Before the hon. Gentleman comes in, may I try to give a fuller answer to the question I was asked ab...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c317-8 (Link to this contribution)
There will be a fixed price, which, as I have indicated, will probably not be the same in respect of...
Elliot Morley | 475 c317 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend, who has already addressed some of the risk premium issues that I wa...
Stephen Ladyman | 475 c320 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman share my concern about the opposite risk? Is there not a danger that, becaus...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c318-9 (Link to this contribution)
That is our intention. We are going into some technical detail, and we are establishing a committee ...
Charles Hendry | 475 c319-20 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the Minister's intention of clarifying the issue, although I think that some of his explan...
Charles Hendry | 475 c339 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the hon. Gentleman. Not only the industry but consumer groups believe that there could ...
Alan Whitehead | 475 c339 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman accept that smart meters could play an important role in dealing with fuel p...
Charles Hendry | 475 c340 (Link to this contribution)
I said earlier that one of the great advantages of the programme was that it could lead to the end o...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c340 (Link to this contribution)
I was rather hoping that the hon. Gentleman was going to address the costs of smart meters. It is no...
Paddy Tipping | 475 c337 (Link to this contribution)
I suspect that the Minister is coming to the end of his speech, and I have been waiting for the answ...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c337 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend for that question. We have listened to many people outside the House, and the...
Charles Hendry | 475 c337-8 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for bringing forward these amendments. They are not everything that we asked fo...
Lembit Opik | 475 c338-9 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the industry wants leadership, a mandate and clarity from the Gov...
Lembit Opik | 475 c335-6 (Link to this contribution)
May I report to the House that, for the second time in 10 years, the Minister has answered a questio...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c345-6 (Link to this contribution)
I like to be kind. The hon. Gentleman will no doubt think of the fourth point. Whether it turns out ...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c345 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Steve Webb | 475 c345 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, that would be good.
Stephen Ladyman | 475 c345 (Link to this contribution)
Smart meters could go one step further and allocate the fuel poor and the social tariffs among the c...
Steve Webb | 475 c345 (Link to this contribution)
The companies are certainly not paying a fair share at present, so that is an interesting suggestion...
Alan Whitehead | 475 c344 (Link to this contribution)
Although I go along with the hon. Gentleman in his suggestion that it is important that rapid progre...
Steve Webb | 475 c344-5 (Link to this contribution)
I agree that we need interoperability and that we need to get the process right, but I do not see wh...
Steve Webb | 475 c342-4 (Link to this contribution)
I think that the hon. Gentleman's reading is right; new clause 3, which is in the group of amendment...
Stephen Ladyman | 475 c341-2 (Link to this contribution)
I will not detain the House long. The hon. Member for Wealden (Charles Hendry) is being a little chu...
Charles Hendry | 475 c340-1 (Link to this contribution)
Of course we have to pay heed to the costs, but what is frustrating is the speed at which that is be...
Alan Simpson | 475 c355 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Speaker | 475 c355-7 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
New clause 11— Electricity from hydro-mic...
Alan Simpson | 475 c357-8 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister for Energy just made the point that we want to empower citizens to take a more active l...
Steve Webb | 475 c358 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes a powerful case, but is it not a source of national embarrassment that in o...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c350-2 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend missed my resolution not to be mean to the Liberal Democrats today. I was slightly me...
Alan Simpson | 475 c360-2 (Link to this contribution)
I discussed the matter in last year's Budget debate with my right hon. Friend the Member for East Ha...
Colin Challen | 475 c358 (Link to this contribution)
I fully support new clause 4. I wonder whether my hon. Friend agrees that Germany has gone down that...
Jeremy Corbyn | 475 c360 (Link to this contribution)
When the system was introduced in Germany, was there much opposition from the energy companies, whic...
Alan Simpson | 475 c358-60 (Link to this contribution)
It has squared the circle. When we address costs, it is important that we recognise the phenomenal s...
Steve Webb | 475 c346-7 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed, we need to be realistic about costs. Climate change and fuel poverty are urgent imperatives,...
Mike Weir | 475 c347-8 (Link to this contribution)
I was somewhat alarmed by the image, put forward by the hon. Member for South Thanet (Dr. Ladyman), ...
Steve Webb | 475 c346 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for paying tribute to my eloquence. That is very decent of him. As an ...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c346 (Link to this contribution)
I assume that if there are net costs, as I believe there will be, they will be passed on to the cons...
Chris Mullin | 475 c350 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that there could be such a thing as a too-smart meter, just as one could h...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c350 (Link to this contribution)
Yes—I welcome my hon. Friend to the debate.
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c349-50 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to hon. Members for their new clauses. This has been a useful debate which has teased ...
Mike Weir | 475 c348-9 (Link to this contribution)
I take the hon. Gentleman's point, although I am not sure that putting a middle man in the energy ma...
Stephen Ladyman | 475 c348 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is making a good point. It is exactly why I used as an exemplar an agent such as ...
Charles Hendry | 475 c365-6 (Link to this contribution)
I begin by paying tribute to the hon. Member for Nottingham, South (Alan Simpson) both for tabling t...
John Redwood | 475 c366 (Link to this contribution)
Will my hon. Friend confirm that given that flexibility, it would be possible to devise incentives f...
Lord Swire | 475 c366 (Link to this contribution)
Someone who erected four 10-m high wind turbines at a capital cost of £35,000 could put 16,000 kW ba...
Charles Hendry | 475 c367-8 (Link to this contribution)
The current system provides no incentive, although there is tremendous enthusiasm. At a meeting that...
Alan Whitehead | 475 c368-9 (Link to this contribution)
I support the idea of having a feed-in tariff, particularly for microgeneration, because it is impor...
Lord Barker of Battle | 475 c369 (Link to this contribution)
Why during its first six years did the renewables obligation not encourage large-scale offshore wind...
Alan Whitehead | 475 c369-70 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes a valid point about the progress of the installation of larger-scale renewa...
Lord Swire | 475 c370 (Link to this contribution)
The Government have now been in power for 10 years. Does the hon. Gentleman agree that if they had w...
Brian Iddon | 475 c362 (Link to this contribution)
As my hon. Friend knows, I raised this issue in Committee. The Government's response was twofold: fi...
Alan Simpson | 475 c363 (Link to this contribution)
I have indeed looked into the problem. The German biogas plants have said that they need over 91 per...
Alan Whitehead | 475 c363-4 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend accept that different forms of incentive are needed to ensure that renewable gas...
Alan Simpson | 475 c364 (Link to this contribution)
That is a legitimate point to address. One of the great virtues of the new clause is that it gives t...
Charles Clarke | 475 c363 (Link to this contribution)
Is my hon. Friend aware that utility companies such as Anglian Water in my constituency, which has a...
Alan Simpson | 475 c363 (Link to this contribution)
I understand that. The problem is that such companies would lose their entitlements to ROCs if they ...
Alan Simpson | 475 c364-5 (Link to this contribution)
That is a perfectly valid point, but again I would draw colleagues' attention back to the comparison...
Lord Swire | 475 c364 (Link to this contribution)
On that very point, does the hon. Gentleman agree that there is some confusion among the agricultura...
Jeremy Corbyn | 475 c364 (Link to this contribution)
In his suggestion, will my hon. Friend make it clear that his definition of biofuels involves the us...
David Drew | 475 c380 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
David Heath | 475 c380 (Link to this contribution)
I want to speak about new clause 11, which deals with micro hydro generation. Before doing so, let m...
David Drew | 475 c381 (Link to this contribution)
I am pleased to co-sponsor new clause 11. Does the hon. Gentleman agree that another issue that we s...
David Heath | 475 c381 (Link to this contribution)
I will of course give way to a co-sponsor of my new clause 11.
Desmond Turner | 475 c378-9 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his suggestion. I was going to put that point to my hon. Friend in al...
Gregory Campbell | 475 c378 (Link to this contribution)
In light of the cross-party support for new clause 4 that has been heard in the House, would not the...
Desmond Turner | 475 c379-80 (Link to this contribution)
Exactly. That is why I said a maximum of 10 years' protection. I see no justification for the sunset...
Desmond Turner | 475 c377-8 (Link to this contribution)
I must confess to a grave feeling of personal disappointment with the Bill, because it is being publ...
David Heath | 475 c381-3 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is right. A sensible community would manage a whole river basin in a much more su...
Mike Weir | 475 c375-6 (Link to this contribution)
I support new clause 4, which was so ably introduced by the hon. Member for Nottingham, South (Alan ...
Dai Havard | 475 c375 (Link to this contribution)
I will not detain the House long. I have been struck by the fact that as I am opposed to nuclear pow...
Martin Horwood | 475 c374-5 (Link to this contribution)
I agree absolutely. During the Committee's evidence sessions, we specifically asked several expert w...
Paddy Tipping | 475 c373-4 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is right that the Minister was encouraging in Committee about feed-in tariffs. Ho...
Martin Horwood | 475 c373 (Link to this contribution)
There are differences between the German and British energy markets; for example, we have a more der...
Kelvin Hopkins | 475 c373 (Link to this contribution)
On that basis, can the hon. Gentleman explain why the Government do not now simply imitate precisely...
Martin Horwood | 475 c371-3 (Link to this contribution)
I should like to join in the congratulations to the hon. Member for Nottingham, South (Alan Simpson)...
Alan Whitehead | 475 c370-1 (Link to this contribution)
Moving as rapidly as we would want from the position that the UK was in, for particular reasons rela...
Mike Weir | 475 c376-7 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed. Onshore wind is now a mature technology, and that is recognised in the proposals for the new...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c389-90 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps the hon. Gentleman will allow me to proceed with my argument.
I turn to the effect that ame...
Lord Swire | 475 c389 (Link to this contribution)
Does the Minister agree that it would be an enormous assistance to the production of renewable energ...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c390 (Link to this contribution)
I am not saying that. I want to continue with my argument. We have things to learn from one another ...
Mark Fisher | 475 c390 (Link to this contribution)
Is my hon. Friend saying that things are not better in Germany, that we do not have things to learn ...
Lord Barker of Battle | 475 c390 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Paul Farrelly | 475 c391 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise that I was unable to be present to hear all the Minister's comments. As I left my office...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c386-9 (Link to this contribution)
This is more a matter of not subsidising something twice when that was never the intention; that wou...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c389 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed.
I am not surprised that we are again revisiting this issue and that there is considerable c...
Mike Weir | 475 c386 (Link to this contribution)
I understand what the Minister is saying, but is there not a danger that the research and developmen...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c384-6 (Link to this contribution)
The issue at stake is how that relates to the renewables obligation, but I hope I have given the hon...
David Heath | 475 c384 (Link to this contribution)
Very little reassurance, but the Minister has said that consultations will continue, which is welcom...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c384 (Link to this contribution)
I was about to say that I hope I have provided the hon. Gentleman with some reassurance, but I give ...
Robert Smith | 475 c386 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister just said that this was not about state aid rules alone. If it were just about state ai...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c386 (Link to this contribution)
I have a long way to go in my speech before I reach some of the issues of particular interest, but I...
Robert Smith | 475 c386 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c386 (Link to this contribution)
I do not quite understand that point; I will be happy to discuss it with the hon. Gentleman outside ...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c383-4 (Link to this contribution)
This group of amendments covers a wide range of renewables issues, so I hope the House will forgive ...
Charles Hendry | 475 c335 (Link to this contribution)
Is that what they did at Ofgem?
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c335 (Link to this contribution)
They have very large envelopes at Ofgem; I have seen them.
The first stage of impact assessment wor...
Lembit Opik | 475 c335 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Charles Hendry | 475 c334 (Link to this contribution)
I think Ofgem estimates that 8 per cent. of the meter stock is changed every year, and that is not f...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c334-5 (Link to this contribution)
Well, costs can go up as well as down, as the advertisements say. We are trying to refine the analys...
Mike Weir | 475 c334 (Link to this contribution)
The domestic roll-out is important. Smart meters must be compatible with different suppliers, so a r...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c334 (Link to this contribution)
I understand those points. Of course, when it comes to the roll-out of smart meters there are a lot ...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c334 (Link to this contribution)
I might cover some of these points in due course, but I am happy to give way to the hon. Gentleman.
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c333-4 (Link to this contribution)
Yes.
The Government published our response to the billing and metering consultation yesterday. I kn...
Robert Smith | 475 c334 (Link to this contribution)
Does the Minister have the figure for the number of meters that are replaced on a renewals cycle whe...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c334 (Link to this contribution)
I will seek to give the hon. Gentleman an accurate answer. If it does not arrive today, I shall writ...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c331 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Speaker | 475 c331-2 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
Government new clause 9— Power to amend l...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c333 (Link to this contribution)
It is good to get on to something smart, namely smart meters. The issue was of significant interest ...
Steve Webb | 475 c333 (Link to this contribution)
There is clearly a lot of uncertainty about cost. The figures that the industry comes up with and th...
Martin Horwood | 475 c329 (Link to this contribution)
I can tell the Minister that I would advise them to vote Liberal Democrat, as they are currently sad...
Speaker | 475 c329 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I think we can draw a line under the hustings at this stage.
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c329 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed. Anyone would think that there were elections coming up later in the week, would they not, Mr...
Stephen Ladyman | 475 c326 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend brings me to the point that I wanted to make about the new clause. By introduci...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c326-7 (Link to this contribution)
We have had a detailed discussion and I am happy to follow the authoritative speech by my hon. Frien...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c327 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is an expert in that area and that was a useful contribution.
Jamie Reed | 475 c327 (Link to this contribution)
Does the Minister agree that one of the other issues that we need to bear in mind when considering p...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c327 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a fair point, but at this stage I cannot judge whether his optimism is justifie...
Steve Webb | 475 c327 (Link to this contribution)
Is he right though?
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c327-9 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is a humble optimist—[Interruption.] Apparently there are other contenders.
The fixe...
Jamie Reed | 475 c327 (Link to this contribution)
I may be an optimist, but I think that I am the only Member present who has worked in the nuclear in...
Martin Horwood | 475 c322-3 (Link to this contribution)
No; I want to make just a little progress.
The context of this issue is the enormous cost of decomm...
Martin Horwood | 475 c324 (Link to this contribution)
No, not on that point.
The Minister referred in passing to an advisory committee—the proposed nucle...
Brian Binley | 475 c324 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Martin Horwood | 475 c324 (Link to this contribution)
Although I hope that my right hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield, Hallam (Mr. Clegg) has great reg...
Charles Hendry | 475 c323-4 (Link to this contribution)
We need greater clarity on the position of the hon. Gentleman's party on this matter. He just made t...
Jamie Reed | 475 c325 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is a scientist, and he has brought much-needed scientific analysis to the debate that...
Stephen Ladyman | 475 c325 (Link to this contribution)
I cannot speak for what people were told in the 1950s, but that is a relevant issue, which is why we...
Martin Horwood | 475 c325 (Link to this contribution)
I seem to remember that the taxpayer was told, ““This electricity will be too cheap to meter.””
Stephen Ladyman | 475 c324-5 (Link to this contribution)
There are two sets of contributors to this debate: those who, like me, believe that nuclear energy w...
Stephen Ladyman | 475 c325 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is right; the vast majority of the legacy results from defence and military purposes....
Brian Binley | 475 c414-5 (Link to this contribution)
I want to continue the theme adopted by the hon. Member for Northavon (Steve Webb). I was rather enc...
Brian Binley | 475 c415 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker; I will do that. I ask the Minister to build on the Bill very swiftl...
Speaker | 475 c415 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I just hope that the hon. Gentleman will relate his remarks a little more explicitly to the c...
Mike Weir | 475 c415-6 (Link to this contribution)
The Bill has some good points. The smart meter provisions are a step forward. I hope the roll-out wi...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c392 (Link to this contribution)
If my hon. Friend is not going to talk about smaller-scale generation, I will give way to him.
Elliot Morley | 475 c392 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way. Many of us accept that there has been consistency in...
Colin Challen | 475 c394 (Link to this contribution)
I had nearly given up. I appreciate a great deal of what my hon. Friend the Minister says. There are...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c394 (Link to this contribution)
I give way to my hon. Friend.
Alan Simpson | 475 c395 (Link to this contribution)
I have listened to the concerns and arguments that the Minister has put forward. Let me try to addre...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c394 (Link to this contribution)
As we saw in the case of micro-hydro, there is always the issue of where one draws the line, yes? [H...
Colin Challen | 475 c393 (Link to this contribution)
Will my hon. Friend give way?
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c392-3 (Link to this contribution)
As I anticipated, my right hon. Friend's question leads me into the next section of my argument. It ...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c393-4 (Link to this contribution)
Let me make some progress before I come back to my hon. Friend—[Hon. Members: ““Give way!””] I do no...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c391 (Link to this contribution)
I think that I need to reflect further on the comparison, which has not immediately struck me as hel...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c392 (Link to this contribution)
I shall explain what I mean, as I want to be helpful to the hon. Gentleman. Per capita carbon dioxid...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c392 (Link to this contribution)
As far as Germany is concerned, we must remember that the endgame of all the different mechanisms is...
Lord Swire | 475 c391 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Member for Nottingham, South (Alan Simpson) is right to suggest that we need leadership fro...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c391 (Link to this contribution)
I agree that we need to look at both costs and benefits, but we also need to accept that long-term c...
Alan Simpson | 475 c391 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the Minister's comments on the cost, but does he also accept that we need to take ...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c391 (Link to this contribution)
Not just yet, no, as I have given way to the hon. Gentleman a couple of times. I shall come back to ...
Lord Swire | 475 c391 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Elliot Morley | 475 c392 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Alan Duncan | 475 c409-11 (Link to this contribution)
May I express our gratitude at the outset to the Clerks and the officials for their work behind the ...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 475 c411 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way. I had no intention of interrupting his peroratio...
John Redwood | 475 c412 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend share my concern that the existing range of nuclear power stations that generate...
Speaker | 475 c412 (Link to this contribution)
Order. The hon. Member must confine his remarks to what is in the Bill rather than discuss what has ...
Alan Duncan | 475 c412 (Link to this contribution)
It is exactly that side of the equation that I am asking the Secretary of State to express clearly, ...
Speaker | 475 c412 (Link to this contribution)
Order. People may well be saying that, but what is in the Bill is none the less what we discuss on T...
Alan Duncan | 475 c412 (Link to this contribution)
The trouble is, Madam Deputy Speaker, that that pretty well brings things to a halt because there is...
Steve Webb | 475 c413-4 (Link to this contribution)
Having reflected on our consideration of the Bill over the past few months, I find it striking that ...
Alan Duncan | 475 c412-3 (Link to this contribution)
There are some important elements contained within the Bill—namely its few nuclear clauses and, inde...
Speaker | 475 c399 (Link to this contribution)
Order. If hon. Members are remaining in the Chamber, will they please keep the level of their conver...
Brian Iddon | 475 c399-400 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker.
This is an issue that I tried to raise in Committee by way of an a...
Brian Iddon | 475 c399 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
This is a—[Interruption.]
Graham Stuart | 475 c408 (Link to this contribution)
The Government said in 2003 that action on CCS was urgent. Does the Minister agree that progress sin...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c407-8 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.
The Bill, taken with the Planning Bill and...
Brian Iddon | 475 c400-1 (Link to this contribution)
The inquiry looked at the possible links between childhood leukaemia and EMF from the high-voltage p...
Speaker | 475 c400 (Link to this contribution)
Order. The House really must come to order for the remaining part of the debate.
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c409 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman has found a nuclear peg on which to hang a familiar theme. When I talk to c...
John Redwood | 475 c409 (Link to this contribution)
Does the Minister not agree, however, that in order to encourage the investment that we need in capa...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c408-9 (Link to this contribution)
No, I do not. However, I agree with the slightly different proposition that the UK is among a small ...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c336 (Link to this contribution)
As the hon. Gentleman says, we will discuss feed-in tariffs later, but I thank him for his congratul...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c390-1 (Link to this contribution)
Not just yet, although it is nice to see the hon. Gentleman.
People sometimes talk about feed-in ta...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c335 (Link to this contribution)
I wonder whether I might make some progress? Just occasionally, I answer a question in advance. It h...
Alan Duncan | 475 c411-2 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed it is, but it is that minority stakeholding that we would like to know more about, because th...
Alan Simpson | 475 c358 (Link to this contribution)
It is an embarrassment, and those who have read the Lily Allen letter will recall that it is describ...
Chris Mullin | 475 c350 (Link to this contribution)
Will my hon. Friend give way?
Alan Simpson | 475 c364 (Link to this contribution)
Absolutely. It is important to recognise that we should not go down such a damaging path. The displa...
Lord Swire | 475 c376 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman agree that although the UK is a world leader in marine energy technology, th...
Alan Simpson | 475 c389 (Link to this contribution)
I have always argued that clause 4 would be back. [Laughter.]
Stephen Ladyman | 475 c316 (Link to this contribution)
That raises a question, does it not? We do not know how many people are going to come forward to bui...
Elliot Morley | 475 c326 (Link to this contribution)
Although I do not disagree with the points being raised and in particular with what is being said ab...
Robert Smith | 475 c321 (Link to this contribution)
On the issue of protecting the taxpayer, does the right hon. Gentleman think that there needs to be ...
Malcolm Wicks | 475 c318 (Link to this contribution)
I do not know whether the hon. Gentleman wishes to intervene on principle or practice or a bit of bo...
Charles Hendry | 475 c366 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend is absolutely right. There is no specific provision in the new clause requiring...
Mike Weir | 475 c379 (Link to this contribution)
Is it not also the case that 10 years is one period? It depends on when the generator starts generat...
Notes
Daily part printing error - in col. 396 delete Jim Dobbin from the Ayes and insert Jeremy Corbyn.
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