Pensions Bill. Programme motion (No 2) on proceedings on Report and Third Reading. Agreed to on question. Report stage. New clause 38, debated with new clauses 11, 24, 25, 27, 40 to 42, agreed to on question. New clause 41 negatived on division (260 votes to 282). New clause 7, debated with new clause 29, negatived on division (217 votes to 293). New clause 28 debated and withdrawn. Queens Consent signified. Third reading debate. Agreed to on question. Bill passed.
Pensions Bill
Debate on bills on Wednesday, 18 April 2007,
in the House of Commons,
led by James Purnell.
The answering
member was Nigel Waterson.
About these Parliamentary proceedings
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Pensions Bill. As amended in Public Bill Committee.
Thursday, 8 February 2007
Bills
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Thursday, 8 February 2007
Bills
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Financial Assistance Scheme Regulations 2005
Wednesday, 22 June 2005
Statutory instruments
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Wednesday, 22 June 2005
Statutory instruments
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Pension reform. Government response to the Work and Pensions Select Committee fourth report of session 2005/06 (HC 1068).
Monday, 30 October 2006
Command papers
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Monday, 30 October 2006
Command papers
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Pension reform. Work and Pensions Select Committee fourth report in 2 volumes with proceedings, evidence (HC 1068 i-vi not printed separately) and appendices.
Thursday, 13 July 2006
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Thursday, 13 July 2006
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Proceeding contributions
James Purnell | 459 c380-1 (Link to this contribution)
Pillaged, even. He has paid homage to the objectives that we set out in the White Paper. In formulat...
Nigel Waterson | 459 c381 (Link to this contribution)
If all that is true, why does the job description of the chief executive of the personal accounts de...
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James Purnell | 459 c380 (Link to this contribution)
Well, there are infinitely more Members on the Labour Benches.
The amendments deal with the role an...
Nigel Waterson | 459 c383 (Link to this contribution)
The figure is going up.
James Purnell | 459 c382-3 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman and I have spent so much time in each other’s company that he can read my speech ...
Nigel Waterson | 459 c382 (Link to this contribution)
Is the Minister in a position to tell us—in the light of our and other representations and the origi...
David Laws | 459 c383 (Link to this contribution)
If the PPI’s higher estimates for means-testing were to prove correct and the Minister were to concl...
James Purnell | 459 c383 (Link to this contribution)
No, the figure is not going up, exactly because of the Bill, but if that happened the vast the major...
James Purnell | 459 c336-7 (Link to this contribution)
No one is disagreeing that it would be possible for the Treasury to make a loan. All that we are say...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 459 c336 (Link to this contribution)
As the right hon. Gentleman says, and as my right hon. Friend the Leader of the Opposition said at P...
Lord Bellingham | 459 c337 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend has a point about the £30 million. A few weeks ago, he went on the green to meet some...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 459 c337 (Link to this contribution)
The amount of money that we are talking about is around £30 million a year in the early years, and I...
Mike Penning | 459 c337 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is very generous in giving way. The reason that this is so urgent—the Minister will r...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 459 c337 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend has got it exactly right. The Government have announced a review in an attempt to hea...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 459 c335-6 (Link to this contribution)
This is the day when Parliament has the opportunity to demonstrate that it is committed to solving t...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 459 c336 (Link to this contribution)
Would the Opposition spokesman like to remind the House that as part of the recovery plan for the pe...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 459 c336 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister is absolutely wrong. He knows as well as everyone else in the House that unclaimed asse...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 459 c339-43 (Link to this contribution)
Of course, I join my hon. Friend in those sentiments, and I know that everybody in the House would s...
Mike Penning | 459 c339 (Link to this contribution)
Will my hon. Friend pay tribute, too, to my constituent, Mr. Peter Humphreys, a leading member of th...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 459 c338-9 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his intervention. The Minister, in a rather niggardly way, criti...
Mark Pritchard | 459 c344 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Lady share my concern that the review will not report until later this year? There is ...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 459 c337 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I repeat that there is nothing incompatible between our proposal...
William Cash | 459 c338 (Link to this contribution)
I am encouraged by what my hon. Friend has said. I was encouraged, too, by what the Minister said wh...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 459 c338 (Link to this contribution)
May I make some progress and turn to new clause 25 and the Minister’s welcome announcement that he i...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 459 c338 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a very good point, but she should be careful. Her criticism should not be aimed...
Julie Kirkbride | 459 c337-8 (Link to this contribution)
It strikes me that the Government Benches are grasping at straws to try to claim the credit for a po...
Mark Pritchard | 459 c347-8 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is right. The Government mean well; it is just a matter of how we achieve what we...
James Purnell | 459 c352 (Link to this contribution)
I am happy to give my hon. Friend that assurance. We are looking at the same number of people—some 8...
Tony Wright | 459 c350-2 (Link to this contribution)
The Bill is in many respects a reckoning with the future of pensions, but it contains within it the ...
Jenny Willott | 459 c345 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Lady share my concern that the proposal to provide 80 per cent. of the expected pensio...
Julie Morgan | 459 c345 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend for that contribution.
I welcome the review announced by the Government toda...
David Laws | 459 c346-7 (Link to this contribution)
This is an extremely important debate. We have heard two excellent speeches, from the hon. Member fo...
Julie Morgan | 459 c345-6 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, that is a matter of concern. Another issue is that there is a provision under the Pension Prote...
David Winnick | 459 c344-5 (Link to this contribution)
I am obviously sympathetic to what my hon. Friend and other colleagues are saying. A constituent of ...
Julie Morgan | 459 c344 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for that intervention. I understand from what the Minister said earlier t...
Mike Penning | 459 c355 (Link to this contribution)
In a second—
Adrian Bailey | 459 c355 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Mike Penning | 459 c355 (Link to this contribution)
All hon. Members involved in this campaign have heard about personal tragedies such as the one so el...
Lord Bellingham | 459 c355 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is expressing the problem in a very moving way. A number of my constituents are havin...
Mike Penning | 459 c353-5 (Link to this contribution)
As a very humble, new Back Bencher, may I say what a pleasure it is to follow the hon. Member for Ca...
Tony Wright | 459 c352-3 (Link to this contribution)
I do not wish to do things wrongly, but I shall reflect on the exchange that I have just had with th...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 459 c352 (Link to this contribution)
It is not really my place to say this, but I remind the hon. Gentleman that if one seeks a Division ...
Tony Wright | 459 c352 (Link to this contribution)
That is the point on which I need to reflect to see whether we can pin down what has been said. I ta...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 459 c352 (Link to this contribution)
I have listened carefully to what the Minister said and I still have a concern. He appears to be ack...
Tony Wright | 459 c352 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that I will be satisfied with that answer. The Minister will have to come up with a form of w...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 459 c355 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend the Member for West Bromwich, West (Mr. Bailey) should let the hon. Gentleman finish,...
Mike Penning | 459 c355-6 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Member for Birkenhead is much more knowledgeable than I am, so I shall try to be as b...
Adrian Bailey | 459 c356 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way. I fully understand and sympathise with the emotions and i...
Mike Penning | 459 c356 (Link to this contribution)
I shall be generous to the hon. Gentleman and suggest that he take a quick look at the amount of mon...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 459 c356-7 (Link to this contribution)
I shall speak for only two minutes, as I know that other hon. Members with constituency interests al...
Mike Weir | 459 c357-8 (Link to this contribution)
I, too, will be brief. I want to support new clause 25 tabled by the hon. Member for Cannock Chase (...
Alan Simpson | 459 c358-9 (Link to this contribution)
I realise that for many Members the whole question of the administration of pension funds is extreme...
Lord Bellingham | 459 c359-60 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Nottingham, South (Alan Simpson), who spoke very eloq...
Sandra Osborne | 459 c361 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Member for North-West Norfolk (Mr. Bellingham) for curtailing his comments, and I s...
Mike Penning | 459 c361 (Link to this contribution)
I stood on a manifesto, defending the Dexion workers, in which we said that we would compensate them...
James Purnell | 459 c362 (Link to this contribution)
I assure my hon. Friend that the wording will do exactly that.
We have a basis on which we can move...
Speaker | 459 c363 (Link to this contribution)
I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the No Lobby.
The House having divided: Ayes...
James Purnell | 459 c362 (Link to this contribution)
This has been a good debate. Everyone in the House has sympathy for the people who have been affecte...
Tony Wright | 459 c362 (Link to this contribution)
On the basis of what I think that the Minister has told me, even though there is still some uncertai...
Speaker | 459 c369 (Link to this contribution)
Order. Will Members who are leaving do so quietly and as quickly as possible?
Nigel Waterson | 459 c368 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Speaker | 459 c368 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: New clause 29—Winding up of Personal Accou...
Nigel Waterson | 459 c369-72 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. It is a great pleasure to introduce new clauses 7 and 29, and amendme...
Sandra Osborne | 459 c361-2 (Link to this contribution)
I can remember Tory Front Benchers telling me on the Floor of the House that they would not commit a...
Nigel Waterson | 459 c377 (Link to this contribution)
I am following very closely what the hon. Lady is saying, but has she seen the figures produced by t...
Sally Keeble | 459 c377-8 (Link to this contribution)
I have not seen the PPI figures, although I shall certainly look at them. I asked the hon. Gentleman...
Lynne Jones | 459 c378 (Link to this contribution)
I cannot agree that what my hon. Friend has described is not means-testing, although I accept that m...
Sally Keeble | 459 c378 (Link to this contribution)
I agree that the Liberal Democrats should also tell us what they mean by the phrase ““means-tested b...
Sally Keeble | 459 c374 (Link to this contribution)
What would the hon. Gentleman count as means-tested benefits? If the aim of the Opposition—who obvio...
Nigel Waterson | 459 c374-5 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady, whose contribution to the Committee was greatly valued, has more or less summarised t...
Danny Alexander | 459 c375-6 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to have become involved at this late stage in such an important Bill. I have observ...
Sally Keeble | 459 c376-7 (Link to this contribution)
I am pleased to have a chance to speak briefly in this debate. I understand that the intention of th...
James Purnell | 459 c372 (Link to this contribution)
I just want to clarify the intention of the hon. Gentleman’s new clause. We already have a situation...
Nigel Waterson | 459 c380 (Link to this contribution)
Nor to yours.
Sally Keeble | 459 c379-80 (Link to this contribution)
New clause 29 is specific, which is why I pursued the point about what a means-tested benefit is. Al...
James Purnell | 459 c380 (Link to this contribution)
This has been an important debate, with good speeches from Members on both sides of the House. Peopl...
Speaker | 459 c379 (Link to this contribution)
Order. The knife falls at 5.22 pm. Although I am loth to intervene at this stage, this is not a gene...
Sally Keeble | 459 c379 (Link to this contribution)
I will, but then I must make progress, as I am not sure when this section of the debate is due to fi...
Danny Alexander | 459 c379 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Lady give way?
Sally Keeble | 459 c378 (Link to this contribution)
What the hon. Gentleman suggests is a bit like telling people on the welfare to work scheme that it ...
Nigel Waterson | 459 c378 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Lady for giving away again. She is being very generous, but does she agree...
Mike Penning | 459 c333 (Link to this contribution)
It would not delay them more.
James Purnell | 459 c333 (Link to this contribution)
It would cause further delay. The expertise exists and the schemes have been assessed. The skills ne...
James Purnell | 459 c333 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman obviously did not listen to my speech. At the start of the PPF process, the schem...
David Laws | 459 c333 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister mentions the unions’ aspiration, but is he saying that although the Government’s aspira...
James Purnell | 459 c333-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am saying that it would be deeply irresponsible to do as the Opposition are doing, which is promis...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 459 c334 (Link to this contribution)
The background to this matter is well known and well rehearsed. We are dealing with a finite group—f...
James Plaskitt | 459 c334 (Link to this contribution)
That’s what you were doing yesterday, was it?
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 459 c334-5 (Link to this contribution)
I am glad that the Under-Secretary of State mentioned yesterday, because, to turn to Government new ...
Adrian Bailey | 459 c335 (Link to this contribution)
I have listened to the hon. Gentleman’s arguments carefully, and to his declared intention of trying...
James Purnell | 459 c331 (Link to this contribution)
I see that the hon. Gentleman wants to continue his row with the ABI and get himself into even deepe...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 459 c332 (Link to this contribution)
I have had a discussion with the ABI this morning to find out what its concern is, and I have been a...
James Purnell | 459 c331 (Link to this contribution)
That is a very good point. There is a misunderstanding about this. People think that the sum is a po...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 459 c331 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister has talked about an additional £2 billion going into the fund. Where is that money? I c...
James Purnell | 459 c333 (Link to this contribution)
They do not want it. I have spoken to them and they do not want it. They are already incredibly busy...
Mike Penning | 459 c332-3 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister is being extremely generous in giving way. If scheme administrators are happy to take o...
James Purnell | 459 c332 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman has contradicted the answer that he just gave. He said that the amendments were a...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 459 c332 (Link to this contribution)
If the Minister wants to talk about the new clauses, he should read them. They give the Secretary of...
James Purnell | 459 c332 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman has just shown again why we cannot accept the amendments. He has no idea what the...
James Purnell | 459 c326-7 (Link to this contribution)
I will have to write to the hon. Gentleman to set out the situation for the precise scheme to which ...
Speaker | 459 c326 (Link to this contribution)
Order. We cannot have the Minister partially giving way. I think that he has allowed the hon. Member...
Alan Simpson | 459 c327-8 (Link to this contribution)
I appreciate the Minister’s clarification about the increase in overall funds. However, the last fig...
James Purnell | 459 c327 (Link to this contribution)
I think that I should make some progress because we have been debating the group for 15 minutes.
I ...
James Purnell | 459 c327 (Link to this contribution)
I am advised that new clause 25 would open the door to a wider range of schemes. When people talk ab...
Tony Wright | 459 c327 (Link to this contribution)
I am pleased by what my hon. Friend has said, but I do not understand the basis on which he argues t...
James Purnell | 459 c328-9 (Link to this contribution)
That is absolutely right; it is the trustees who we are encouraging to ask for payments. I have writ...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 459 c328 (Link to this contribution)
Because people outside may not understand what the Minister has just said, will he clarify that he i...
James Purnell | 459 c328 (Link to this contribution)
I am afraid that there is a misunderstanding about the task that the financial assistance scheme has...
Lord Bellingham | 459 c329 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister, who is obviously in a combative mood, for giving way. He implied that our new ...
James Purnell | 459 c329 (Link to this contribution)
I have great respect for Ros Altmann, but as far as I know she never worked as an adviser to No. 10 ...
David Laws | 459 c329 (Link to this contribution)
We are very entertained by these parts of the Minister’s speech, but before he wraps up his comments...
James Purnell | 459 c330 (Link to this contribution)
Healthy, solvent employers may have wound up their scheme when employer debt was set at the minimum ...
James Purnell | 459 c330 (Link to this contribution)
The whole point is that people do not know—[Hon. Members: ““Ah!?] We can quantify the people who hav...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 459 c330 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister has given a very technical answer to the question asked by the hon. Member for Yeovil (...
James Purnell | 459 c330 (Link to this contribution)
I am saying that we have the same intention and that we will make proposals to make sure that what w...
Tony Wright | 459 c330 (Link to this contribution)
This is important so we must be clear about it. Is the Minister saying that he accepts the substance...
James Purnell | 459 c331 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, if the hon. Gentleman can tell me what tax and benefit policy will be for the next 50 years. So...
David Laws | 459 c330 (Link to this contribution)
Can the Minister tell the House what would be the additional net present value cost of granting the ...
James Purnell | 459 c325 (Link to this contribution)
The right thing to do is to look at the outcome of the review.
James Purnell | 459 c324 (Link to this contribution)
No, the Prime Minister did not make a mistake. The hon. Gentleman knows very well the terms of refer...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 459 c325 (Link to this contribution)
May I take the Minister back to what the ABI said? If it was saying that Members on either side of t...
James Purnell | 459 c325 (Link to this contribution)
We will be happy to read any submission that my right hon. Friend makes to the review. However, this...
Mark Pritchard | 459 c325 (Link to this contribution)
Given that Conservative Members are happy to support Government new clause 38, are there any Conserv...
James Purnell | 459 c324 (Link to this contribution)
We will be grateful for that support, but the House will notice a pattern in Conservative policy mak...
David Laws | 459 c324 (Link to this contribution)
Is there not a pattern in Government policy making as well: three times, the Government have been dr...
James Purnell | 459 c324 (Link to this contribution)
Again, I will turn to that in my speech slightly later on, but I want to contest what the hon. Gentl...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 459 c324 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister again mentions the review. It is important that we clarify the situation because hon. M...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 459 c323 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I should just make it clear to the House that Conservative Members will support new clause 3...
James Purnell | 459 c326 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Member for Stone (Mr. Cash) wish to intervene on this point?
William Cash | 459 c326 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister has met—
William Cash | 459 c326 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Clive Betts | 459 c326 (Link to this contribution)
May I put on record my thanks and those of my constituents, the workers at Tinsley Bridge and those ...
James Purnell | 459 c326 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend for his comments. I hope that hon. Members will thus think that it would be i...
Clive Betts | 459 c325 (Link to this contribution)
I want to return to an issue that was raised before. I know that the Minister said that he would add...
James Purnell | 459 c326 (Link to this contribution)
I was going to come on to this point later, but I will deal with it now because I have been asked ab...
James Purnell | 459 c325 (Link to this contribution)
The problem with the Conservative amendments is that they could expose the Government to compensatio...
Mark Pritchard | 459 c325 (Link to this contribution)
The logic of what the Minister says is that he is happy to accept only Government new clauses ahead ...
Mike Weir | 459 c322 (Link to this contribution)
Apologies—I am getting ahead of myself. The Minister talks about the financial assistance scheme. Ch...
James Purnell | 459 c322-3 (Link to this contribution)
I am just getting into my stride, but I will come to that at the end. The issue throughout has been ...
James Purnell | 459 c317 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Mike Weir | 459 c322 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Secretary of State give way?
James Purnell | 459 c322 (Link to this contribution)
I am not the Secretary of State, but I am happy to give way.
Speaker | 459 c317-22 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
Amendment (a), in line 9, leave out from ...
James Purnell | 459 c322 (Link to this contribution)
New clause 38 deals with the important issue of failed company pensions and the financial assistance...
Nigel Waterson | 459 c402 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister has referred to ““Groundhog Day? at least once this evening. We could go on having this...
Nigel Waterson | 459 c402-5 (Link to this contribution)
I hear my hon. Friend’s sedentary comment, but I take no credit for my constituent being 110, apart ...
Michael Fabricant | 459 c402 (Link to this contribution)
It is because of his excellent MP!
Nigel Waterson | 459 c405 (Link to this contribution)
I am coming to the end of my remarks, Madam Deputy Speaker, but it is important that the whole House...
Speaker | 459 c405 (Link to this contribution)
Order. The hon. Gentleman is now going rather wide of the Bill that is under discussion today.
Nigel Waterson | 459 c405 (Link to this contribution)
The bottom line is this: the official Opposition support the direction of travel of these reforms, a...
Speaker | 459 c405 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I remind the hon. Gentleman again that we are not having a rerun of yesterday’s debate; we ha...
Mike Weir | 459 c406-7 (Link to this contribution)
I want to make a few brief points. Looking at the ePolitix briefing for the debate, I see that it li...
Lynne Jones | 459 c405-6 (Link to this contribution)
It is understandable that the financial assistance scheme and the way in which we might help those w...
David Laws | 459 c407-9 (Link to this contribution)
I should like to start on three points of consensus, and I shall try to be brief as other Members st...
Julie Kirkbride | 459 c410-1 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to be called to speak, and I shall make a brief contribution.
I largely welcome the p...
Austin Mitchell | 459 c409-10 (Link to this contribution)
Of course, as a loyal Labour Member, I welcome the Bill, but the welcome is fairly cool because the ...
Dai Davies | 459 c412-3 (Link to this contribution)
I will be very brief, as there is not much time left.
As a former trustee of the British Steel pens...
Kelvin Hopkins | 459 c411-2 (Link to this contribution)
I entirely agree with everything that my hon. Friends the Member for Birmingham, Selly Oak (Lynne Jo...
Speaker | 459 c397 (Link to this contribution)
I understand the concerns of the hon. Lady, but I have to be guided by the terms of the programme mo...
James Purnell | 459 c397-9 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.
The Bill implements the most ambitious ref...
Mark Pritchard | 459 c399 (Link to this contribution)
Today has been very enlightening, and I am pleased that the Bill has reached this stage. However, I ...
James Purnell | 459 c399-400 (Link to this contribution)
I answered that question in Committee. The hon. Gentleman knows perfectly well that there are recipr...
Nigel Waterson | 459 c400-2 (Link to this contribution)
I am always on tenterhooks when the Minister talks about consensus, because I never know whether the...
James Purnell | 459 c402 (Link to this contribution)
I want to draw the hon. Gentleman’s attention to Hansard. His colleague did not say that he thought ...
James Purnell | 459 c397 (Link to this contribution)
I am reporting now and saying that we are committed to doing that. The way to do it is through the c...
David Laws | 459 c397 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to ask leave to withdraw the motion.
Motion and clause, by leave, withdrawn.
Baroness Hoey | 459 c397 (Link to this contribution)
On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. Can you advise us of any way in which we might be able to...
Andrew Selous | 459 c394-5 (Link to this contribution)
I will endeavour to be brief as we do not have much time. New clause 28 and amendment No. 15 cover g...
Baroness Burt of Solihull | 459 c395 (Link to this contribution)
I shall be extremely brief. We have heard some excellent speeches, and I do not want to duplicate wh...
David Laws | 459 c392-3 (Link to this contribution)
I am delighted that despite our necessarily long debates on some of the earlier amendments, we have ...
Sally Keeble | 459 c393-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am pleased that it is possible to discuss the subject again and have another chance to press my ho...
James Purnell | 459 c396 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed, I also pay tribute to the hon. Lady, who made a persuasive speech, too, and who joined in th...
James Purnell | 459 c395-6 (Link to this contribution)
It is good to end the Report stage on a similar consensual note to that which characterised most of ...
David Laws | 459 c396 (Link to this contribution)
And my hon. Friend the Member for Solihull (Lorely Burt).
David Laws | 459 c391 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Speaker | 459 c392 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss Amendment No. 15, in clause 3, page 3, line 33, at end in...
Speaker | 459 c391 (Link to this contribution)
I fully understand the hon. Gentleman’s point. We do not want such an event to happen again, and I h...
James Purnell | 459 c386-7 (Link to this contribution)
My officials have suggested a series of five seminars to which we could invite Front Benchers. I am ...
Nigel Waterson | 459 c387 (Link to this contribution)
If the Minister thinks that he can threaten me by upping the rate of seminars to which he is going t...
Speaker | 459 c391 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I understand that a number of Members were unable to register their vote on this occasion due...
Lord McLoughlin | 459 c391 (Link to this contribution)
On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. I appreciate your launching that investigation. Will you ...
Lynne Jones | 459 c385 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend expresses the view that it would cost £20 billion—a year, I presume—to bring the basi...
James Purnell | 459 c386 (Link to this contribution)
I will do so happily, provided that the hon. Member for Yeovil also tells us what he would do about ...
David Laws | 459 c386 (Link to this contribution)
How many are there?
James Purnell | 459 c384-5 (Link to this contribution)
When the hon. Gentleman is Pensions Minister in 2050, or even in 2040 or 2030, he will be able to de...
David Laws | 459 c385 (Link to this contribution)
Does the Minister agree that the more modest—and certainly more affordable—measure of bringing forwa...
James Purnell | 459 c381-2 (Link to this contribution)
The chief executive is to advise the Secretary of State on the decisions to make around that strateg...
James Purnell | 459 c336 (Link to this contribution)
In yesterday’s debate, the hon. Member for Tatton (Mr. Osborne)—he is sitting right next to the hon....
Julie Morgan | 459 c343-4 (Link to this contribution)
I thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, for calling me to speak about amendment (a) to new clause 38, and n...
David Laws | 459 c348-50 (Link to this contribution)
That is true. Many of us fear that people will have to wait even longer for a solution the shape of ...
Nigel Waterson | 459 c372-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am delighted to tell the Minister that I shall deal with those very points in a moment. He will pr...
Danny Alexander | 459 c379 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
As the hon. Member for Northampton, North (Ms Keeble) knows, in the ...
William Cash | 459 c326 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister was good enough to meet Mr. Richard Nicholl and me to discuss amendments that are adequ...
Andrew Selous | 459 c397 (Link to this contribution)
In Committee, the Minister kindly said that he would report back before the end of the passage of th...
James Purnell | 459 c385 (Link to this contribution)
My point is that whatever was done in the direction that the hon. Gentleman suggests, we would still...
Mike Penning | 459 c333 (Link to this contribution)
Is the Minister honestly telling the House and all those pensioners here today for the debate that s...
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