Pensions Bill. Second reading debate. Agreed to on question. Programme motion on proceedings in Committee, on Report, in Third Reading and any other proceedings. Agreed to on question. Money resolution agreed to on question.
Pensions Bill
Debate on bills on Tuesday, 16 January 2007,
in the House of Commons,
led by Lord Hutton of Furness.
The answering
member was Lord Hammond of Runnymede.
About these Parliamentary proceedings
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Pensions Bill. Explanatory Note Bill 12-EN also published.
Tuesday, 28 November 2006
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Tuesday, 28 November 2006
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Pension reform. Government response to the Work and Pensions Select Committee fourth report of session 2005/06 (HC 1068).
Monday, 30 October 2006
Command papers
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Monday, 30 October 2006
Command papers
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Pension reform. Work and Pensions Select Committee fourth report in 2 volumes with proceedings, evidence (HC 1068 i-vi not printed separately) and appendices.
Thursday, 13 July 2006
Parliamentary committees
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c663 (Link to this contribution)
If the hon. Gentleman will just give me one moment, I am trying to make an announcement, but I do no...
John Butterfill | 455 c663 (Link to this contribution)
A lot of the welcome changes that the Secretary of State has just been talking about represent a gre...
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Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c662-3 (Link to this contribution)
We have been looking closely at that issue. My hon. Friend has raised it with me on a number of occa...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c663-4 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, we have looked at that issue carefully and it has been a major concern for us. The proposals in...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c663 (Link to this contribution)
These issues are generally very complex. The PPF is not actually the subject of the Bill, although I...
Jim Cunningham | 455 c663 (Link to this contribution)
Has my right hon. Friend considered the issue of widows who inherit their husbands’ pensions?
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c662 (Link to this contribution)
No, I do not accept that. I will come to those points later, because the issue of the state pension ...
Kali Mountford | 455 c662 (Link to this contribution)
The measures that my right hon. Friend is announcing are important, but will he also look at the pos...
David Laws | 455 c662 (Link to this contribution)
The Secretary of State has indicated that the delay in making the earnings link is because of the li...
David Laws | 455 c665 (Link to this contribution)
The Secretary of State will know that Lord Turner’s aspiration for the personal accounts was that fo...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c665 (Link to this contribution)
I think that the figures are set out in a document that we published when we produced the second pen...
Mark Pritchard | 455 c666 (Link to this contribution)
What thought has been given to economic migrants—we know that there were more than 500,000 of them l...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c666 (Link to this contribution)
Entitlement to the basic state pension or the state second pension will be based on the number of qu...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c666 (Link to this contribution)
No, I do not want to give way to the hon. Gentleman again. If I have not dealt with his point, my ho...
John Bercow | 455 c664 (Link to this contribution)
The restoration of the earnings link and measures to increase both simplicity and intelligibility ar...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c664 (Link to this contribution)
We think that means-testing could be significantly reduced. As I said, if we do nothing now, it will...
Anne Begg | 455 c664 (Link to this contribution)
The Secretary of State mentioned trivial commutation. Has he given any thought to the level at which...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c664-5 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a good point. At present, the limit on trivial commutation is set at £15,000. I...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c660 (Link to this contribution)
The figures have all been set out, but in relation to the right hon. Gentleman’s point, the Governme...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c659 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.
This Bill takes forward the key recommendat...
John Redwood | 455 c659-60 (Link to this contribution)
Can the Secretary of State tell us what the increased cost will be in the first full year of impleme...
Mike Weir | 455 c661 (Link to this contribution)
Although the restoration of the link is welcome, how does the Secretary of State respond to the Nati...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c661-2 (Link to this contribution)
There is some flexibility in the Bill with respect to the issue of prices or earnings, which I belie...
John Redwood | 455 c662 (Link to this contribution)
I am very grateful to the Secretary of State for giving way again. Will he tell us why restoring the...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c662 (Link to this contribution)
Because it is linked with our policy for increasing the state pension age. I have to say that I am n...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c660-1 (Link to this contribution)
We all look forward to the hon. Gentleman’s rewriting of the history of that issue. I know that he w...
Lynne Jones | 455 c661 (Link to this contribution)
The Secretary of State is right to say that many pensioners are, thanks to the Labour Government, mu...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c661 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is right, but she will also be aware that Lord Turner and the pension commissioners h...
Angela C Smith | 455 c660 (Link to this contribution)
We are all aware that it was the previous, Conservative Government who broke the earnings link in th...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c660 (Link to this contribution)
It is important that there should be consensus, if possible, about long-term reform of our pension s...
David Laws | 455 c681 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with what the hon. Gentleman says about the importance of accurate advice, but did he hear t...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 455 c679-81 (Link to this contribution)
Excellent. So the refunds will be retrospective, which deals with one of the concerns that, as the S...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c679 (Link to this contribution)
I did not intend to interrupt the hon. Gentleman, but I am grateful to him for letting me in again. ...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 455 c678-9 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady has eloquently made the case for our canning the Bill and all going home. She has just...
Sally Keeble | 455 c678 (Link to this contribution)
I take the hon. Gentleman’s point about the need for smoothing, but in addition to the basic state p...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 455 c678 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps the hon. Lady will deal with this matter in her speech, and I can then intervene on her if t...
Speaker | 455 c683 (Link to this contribution)
Ministers on the Treasury Bench will no doubt have heard the point that the right hon. Gentleman mad...
Kali Mountford | 455 c683-6 (Link to this contribution)
The last time the House debated pensions we ended on a note of consensus about consensus, which is a...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 455 c681-3 (Link to this contribution)
I heard the Secretary of State’s earlier remarks, but I am not sure that the hon. Gentleman is exact...
David Davis | 455 c683 (Link to this contribution)
On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. On today’s Order Paper there are three written statements...
David Laws | 455 c687-8 (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate the hon. Member for Colne Valley (Kali Mountford) on her thoughtful speech. I start w...
Kali Mountford | 455 c686-7 (Link to this contribution)
Both situations arise, and, in both cases, people are falling out of the system and being disenfranc...
David Laws | 455 c688-9 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for paving the way for the next part of my speech, in which I wi...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 455 c688 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps the hon. Gentleman could clear something up for me, because I am now genuinely confused abou...
Baroness Burt of Solihull | 455 c686 (Link to this contribution)
I have every sympathy with the points that the hon. Lady is making. If she were successful in gainin...
Kali Mountford | 455 c686 (Link to this contribution)
As people who have worked on Committees with me in the past will know, I am never backward in coming...
Mike Weir | 455 c689 (Link to this contribution)
I am interested in what the hon. Gentleman has said. We have heard a great deal about consensus in t...
David Laws | 455 c689 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes an excellent point. If the Secretary of State and the hon. Member for Runny...
Anne Begg | 455 c689 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is talking about the citizen’s pension as if it were a panacea and its mere intro...
Mike Weir | 455 c690 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is right. We also agree with the consensus—possibly the only part of the consensu...
David Laws | 455 c690 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady cleverly makes her point about the pension compensation. I cannot speculate on the rea...
Justine Greening | 455 c690 (Link to this contribution)
Is it possible that the Minister is confused because he has not used a net present value calculation...
Anne Begg | 455 c691 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
David Laws | 455 c691 (Link to this contribution)
What I recognise, and what the Pensions Policy Institute has already costed, is that the sort of pro...
James Purnell | 455 c691 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman did not answer the point from the hon. Member for Angus (Mr. Weir) about the leve...
David Laws | 455 c691 (Link to this contribution)
I am in danger of agreeing too much with the hon. Gentleman before the Scottish and Welsh elections,...
David Laws | 455 c691-2 (Link to this contribution)
I will in a moment, but I am sure that the hon. Lady would not want to get in the way of the Secreta...
David Laws | 455 c692-3 (Link to this contribution)
I am delighted that the Secretary of State took the trouble to intervene. I have no intention of fin...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c692 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure that most of my hon. Friends will wonder how it is that the hon. Gentleman is not going to...
David Laws | 455 c693 (Link to this contribution)
I shall give way when I have finished my point. As the hon. Lady knows, some people have enormous de...
Anne Begg | 455 c693 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
David Laws | 455 c693-5 (Link to this contribution)
We are clearly saying that the amount of means-testing that appears to be built into the Bill is in ...
Anne Begg | 455 c693 (Link to this contribution)
The mention of housing benefit reminded me to intervene. The hon. Gentleman has still not made clear...
David Laws | 455 c695 (Link to this contribution)
I understand the hon. Lady’s point, and she is entitled to put forward that view. I must remind her,...
Sally Keeble | 455 c695 (Link to this contribution)
I am intrigued by what the hon. Gentleman is saying. He is arguing that personal accounts will not i...
David Laws | 455 c692 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed. That implies that people who save money in personal accounts will start by going on an up es...
David Laws | 455 c695 (Link to this contribution)
I should be delighted to give way to the Secretary of State.
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c695 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way and I promise to stop heckling him, but only if h...
David Laws | 455 c697 (Link to this contribution)
I have given way a number of times to the hon. Lady.
When the earnings link is introduced, that biz...
Russell Brown | 455 c697 (Link to this contribution)
Out of curiosity, may I ask the hon. Gentleman whether those 1 million people who have left this cou...
David Laws | 455 c697 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for his clarification. I hope that we will seek to embed in the Bill t...
Anne Begg | 455 c697 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
David Laws | 455 c696-7 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker.
I am not surprised that the Secretary of State is spending so much...
James Purnell | 455 c697 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that I can set the hon. Gentleman’s mind at rest. The arrangements proposed in the Bill are s...
David Laws | 455 c695 (Link to this contribution)
We made that clear right at the beginning of the debate. The principles behind the Bill are so in li...
David Laws | 455 c698-9 (Link to this contribution)
There is no discrepancy. If someone is entitled to a citizen’s pension and has paid their taxation, ...
Speaker | 455 c699 (Link to this contribution)
Order. Before I call the next speaker, I should tell the House that further to the point of order ra...
Sally Keeble | 455 c699-700 (Link to this contribution)
I was interested by the speech of the hon. Member for Yeovil (Mr. Laws). I think that the thrust of ...
John Butterfill | 455 c704-5 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome a great deal of what is in the Bill, and I pay tribute to the extensive consultation that ...
John Butterfill | 455 c705 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister seeks to intervene but if I may, I shall deal with another couple of points first. I wi...
Paul Flynn | 455 c700 (Link to this contribution)
Hear, hear. Splendid.
Sally Keeble | 455 c700-3 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend clearly approves of that. Two years later, however, that woman found that she had los...
Anne Begg | 455 c703-4 (Link to this contribution)
In terms of the married women’s stamp, the problem was not that the advice from the Government was w...
Sally Keeble | 455 c704 (Link to this contribution)
I take on board that point, and I have had an argument about that each time I have raised this issue...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 455 c671 (Link to this contribution)
The Bill before us proposes to create a more generous, more widely available, less means-tested and ...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c670-1 (Link to this contribution)
That will not compromise the independence of the delivery authority. The Secretary of State is the r...
Philip Dunne | 455 c670 (Link to this contribution)
The Secretary of State said that the delivery authority will be independent. How does he reconcile t...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c669-70 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed; we will do that. We made clear in the White Paper that we published in December what the exp...
John Redwood | 455 c672 (Link to this contribution)
Did my hon. Friend notice that the Secretary of State tried to imply that linking the standard pensi...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 455 c672 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure that my hon. Friend intended to say that we should reduce the costs and pass the savings o...
Justine Greening | 455 c672 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that the complexity of pension credit adds cost to the system? It would be...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c669 (Link to this contribution)
That is probably one of those interventions for which I wish I had not given way. The hon. Lady has ...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 455 c669 (Link to this contribution)
I am extremely grateful to my right hon. Friend for giving way. Has he considered giving that author...
Julie Kirkbride | 455 c669 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman has been extremely generous. I ask my question on behalf of a number of con...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c667 (Link to this contribution)
I will not give way to my hon. Friend again on that issue because it is properly a matter for the Ch...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c667 (Link to this contribution)
No. If the hon. Gentleman does not mind, I would like to make progress. Perhaps he can make his poin...
David Laws | 455 c667 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Secretary of State give way?
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c667-8 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome my hon. Friend’s support for the policy and I accept his concern, which is shared by Membe...
Paddy Tipping | 455 c667 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend is right that that is important, and it is the right policy to pursue. What wou...
Harry Cohen | 455 c668 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend has acknowledged that the private savings element is crucial. Can he give an as...
Lynne Jones | 455 c666 (Link to this contribution)
Some of us argue that the improvements in the basic state pension should be greater, and should be m...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c666-7 (Link to this contribution)
In her previous intervention, my hon. Friend prayed in aid the Pensions Commission. The commission c...
Lynne Jones | 455 c678 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 455 c678 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps the hon. Lady will let me answer her first question before she seeks to ask another. I hope ...
Lynne Jones | 455 c677 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 455 c677 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady is absolutely right, and Lord Turner is absolutely right to observe that that would be...
Lynne Jones | 455 c677 (Link to this contribution)
Although the hon. Gentleman makes many political points, it is clear from what he is saying that his...
Lynne Jones | 455 c676 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 455 c676-7 (Link to this contribution)
I want to make a little progress.
In a moment I shall deal with the part of the Bill that introduce...
David Laws | 455 c676 (Link to this contribution)
If I heard the hon. Gentleman correctly, he said that although he was very concerned about the issue...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 455 c676 (Link to this contribution)
What I have said to the hon. Gentleman—and I do not imagine for a moment that he would do anything d...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 455 c675-6 (Link to this contribution)
I assure the hon. Lady that we accept the pension credit regime put in place by the Government, incl...
Lynne Jones | 455 c675 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the hon. Gentleman about the need to reduce means-testing as much as possible. There ar...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 455 c674-5 (Link to this contribution)
With respect to the hon. Lady, I have already acknowledged that by welcoming the proposal to standar...
Russell Brown | 455 c673 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman mentioned his party’s election manifesto pledge to restore the link between pensi...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 455 c673 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes an important point. Means-testing is at the heart of the debate, and if he will...
Sally Keeble | 455 c674 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman accept that there was no point in restoring the link with earnings while so ...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 455 c673-4 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. The commitment that we made at the last election was the com...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 455 c672 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend is right and I shall deal with affordability shortly.
The second reason that t...
Kitty Ussher | 455 c672-3 (Link to this contribution)
I am a little confused—perhaps the hon. Gentleman can enlighten me. My understanding of his party’s ...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 455 c673 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady has not done her homework. She is not quite at one with the Secretary of State, who ha...
Mark Pritchard | 455 c673 (Link to this contribution)
I share my hon. Friend’s perhaps faint praise for the Government’s acceptance of the Conservatives’ ...
James Purnell | 455 c752-4 (Link to this contribution)
Tax cuts for older people—the increased age-related allowances.
Let me make progress and answer as ...
James Purnell | 455 c752 (Link to this contribution)
We have increased pensioner benefits roughly in line with earnings if we take into account winter fu...
Kelvin Hopkins | 455 c752 (Link to this contribution)
I am pleased that the Government have decided to restore the link with earnings, albeit not until 20...
James Purnell | 455 c752 (Link to this contribution)
Of course I do. The Secretary of State made the position clear when he intervened on the hon. Gentle...
David Laws | 455 c751 (Link to this contribution)
Let me test the extent of the consensus on the Labour Front Bench. Earlier, the Secretary of State s...
James Purnell | 455 c751 (Link to this contribution)
I am happy to let the hon. Gentleman dig himself further into the hole.
David Laws | 455 c754 (Link to this contribution)
Does the Minister accept the PPI figures that make clear that, because of the effect of means-testin...
James Purnell | 455 c755 (Link to this contribution)
Yet again—for about the fifth time—the hon. Gentleman has refused to answer the question. Until he a...
Anne Begg | 455 c713 (Link to this contribution)
I will give way in a few moments.
I understand why the Government went down the road that they did....
Anne Begg | 455 c711-3 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed, and we need to ask GPs if they would be willing to take on that role. The Government should ...
Anne Begg | 455 c710-1 (Link to this contribution)
Not every Bill does everything for everybody. This Bill is about tomorrow’s pensioners, and was neve...
Anne Begg | 455 c709-10 (Link to this contribution)
I want to add my voice to the general consensus in support of the Bill. I am sure that that includes...
Baroness Burt of Solihull | 455 c710 (Link to this contribution)
I totally agree with the hon. Lady that it is very important to get younger people to consider their...
John Butterfill | 455 c709 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady anticipates me, as I was about to say that social workers could undertake that role, a...
Sally Keeble | 455 c709 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman agree that local authorities’ social services departments could be asked to ...
John Butterfill | 455 c707 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is right, but the Government propose an extremely long timescale, which is much longe...
John Butterfill | 455 c708 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is right to say that in parts of the United Kingdom, notably the one that he repr...
Mike Weir | 455 c708 (Link to this contribution)
There are also massive disparities in England. The same problems found in parts of urban Scotland ar...
John Butterfill | 455 c706-7 (Link to this contribution)
I am very gratified by the Minister’s response; there could otherwise have been a lot of wastage of ...
Mark Pritchard | 455 c707 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that in order for trust in the Government on pensions to be rebuilt, the p...
John Butterfill | 455 c707 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is right. It would reassure many people if we had more certainty on this issue. It wo...
John Penrose | 455 c707 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend will of course be aware of the comments made by Lord Turner in his report to the effe...
John Butterfill | 455 c708-9 (Link to this contribution)
I understand the hon. Gentleman’s point, but the medical profession and improved education can help....
James Purnell | 455 c705-6 (Link to this contribution)
There will not be time at the end of the debate to reply to all the points made, so on this very imp...
James Purnell | 455 c751 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure that my hon. Friend can put that proposition to the House authorities. I am glad to say th...
Paul Flynn | 455 c751 (Link to this contribution)
I am grappling with the conundrum of why restoring the link was denounced for the past few years as ...
James Purnell | 455 c751 (Link to this contribution)
It has been a good debate and we welcome Conservative Members’ support for the Bill. I pay tribute t...
Nigel Waterson | 455 c749-50 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is right. If we carried on as we are until 2050, on the Government’s own figures, by ...
Paul Flynn | 455 c747 (Link to this contribution)
The last time that there was unanimity in the House on a pensions Bill was when Barbara Castle intro...
Nigel Waterson | 455 c747-8 (Link to this contribution)
If the hon. Gentleman had attended our debate earlier, he would have heard a discussion of that hist...
Sammy Wilson | 455 c746 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Member for The Wrekin (Mark Pritchard) for giving me some of his time, so that I co...
Nigel Waterson | 455 c747 (Link to this contribution)
It is a great pleasure to follow the hon. Member for East Antrim (Sammy Wilson), and I am grateful t...
Mark Pritchard | 455 c744-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to be called in this debate. I want to start with the comments made by the hon. Member...
Mark Pritchard | 455 c738 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Lady for giving way. Given her clear and evident reservations about the in...
Lynne Jones | 455 c737-8 (Link to this contribution)
I want to endorse the comments that several colleagues made about the welcome improvements in state ...
Mike Weir | 455 c739-43 (Link to this contribution)
We have heard a lot in this debate about the consensus that exists in this House in respect of vario...
Lynne Jones | 455 c738-9 (Link to this contribution)
Well, I will not actually be standing at the next election, but I will be campaigning, and I hope to...
Mark Pritchard | 455 c736 (Link to this contribution)
Given the hon. Lady’s point on the 30-year rule, what is Liberal Democrat policy on that? Will the p...
Baroness Burt of Solihull | 455 c736 (Link to this contribution)
We will propose amendments to help those who fall short of the cliff edge to qualify. We will submit...
Mark Pritchard | 455 c736 (Link to this contribution)
In the spirit of consensus and wanting to be helpful, it would be helpful if Members knew in advance...
Baroness Burt of Solihull | 455 c736-7 (Link to this contribution)
We will table our amendments this evening, so the hon. Gentleman will know of our proposals as early...
Baroness Burt of Solihull | 455 c735-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the opportunity to speak because I have a special interest in the Bill. Although, ...
James Purnell | 455 c731 (Link to this contribution)
Given that there will be no time to tackle all the points in the winding-up speech, I draw the hon. ...
Philip Dunne | 455 c729-31 (Link to this contribution)
Like many Members, I welcome the Bill. I am pleased to follow the hon. Member for Amber Valley (Judy...
Judy Mallaber | 455 c725-9 (Link to this contribution)
For too long, women have had a raw deal from the pensions system, which may explain why women have b...
Mike Penning | 455 c724-5 (Link to this contribution)
That is right, but the position is confusing. I have dealt with constituents in my surgery who have ...
Ann McKechin | 455 c732-5 (Link to this contribution)
The overriding message from today’s debate has been that neither the issue of pensions nor the Bill ...
Philip Dunne | 455 c731-2 (Link to this contribution)
We will participate in that consultation and examine the Minister’s pronouncements carefully, whethe...
Mike Penning | 455 c724 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a valid point. There is a difference between longevity—we all know that people ...
Anne Begg | 455 c724 (Link to this contribution)
If someone is awarded DLA before the retirement age they keep it after retirement, but if they do no...
Mike Penning | 455 c722-3 (Link to this contribution)
I shall not waste 48 minutes of the House’s time, which is what the hon. Member for Yeovil (Mr. Laws...
Mark Pritchard | 455 c723-4 (Link to this contribution)
Someone aged 50 or 60 in a construction job may rightly think that they cannot continue to undertake...
Anne Begg | 455 c713-5 (Link to this contribution)
So what of married women who run off with some toy boy who is American and has never paid national i...
Speaker | 455 c718 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I think that the hon. Lady has had more than her two-penn’orth today. That was probably suffi...
Anne Begg | 455 c718 (Link to this contribution)
The figure that the hon. Gentleman cites was considered by the Work and Pensions Committee in the la...
Speaker | 455 c720 (Link to this contribution)
Order. Before I call the next speaker, I point out that the Front-Benchers’ speeches were very long,...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 455 c718-20 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady misunderstands my logic and what I am trying to say. She certainly misunderstood what ...
Janet Dean | 455 c720-2 (Link to this contribution)
I promise to be brief; otherwise my voice might give out. I greatly welcome the Bill, particularly t...
David Laws | 455 c713 (Link to this contribution)
To clarify the issue, does the hon. Lady understand that what the residence criterion means for the ...
Anne Begg | 455 c713 (Link to this contribution)
I still do not know how many years are involved, so perhaps the hon. Member for Yeovil will interven...
Lynne Jones | 455 c713 (Link to this contribution)
However, if they had been working, they would have paid national insurance contributions for their 1...
Russell Brown | 455 c686 (Link to this contribution)
The picture that my hon. Friend is painting implies that the issue is about people fitting their wor...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 455 c748-9 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that since the Government are not bringing in the new earnings link until ...
David Laws | 455 c689-90 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady signed up to the excellent report on the issue by the Select Committee on Work and Pen...
Lord Hutton of Furness | 455 c668-9 (Link to this contribution)
There is a way of trying to manage risk in relation to equity investments, which is called lifestyli...
John Butterfill | 455 c711 (Link to this contribution)
Of course, I understand that a wide range of people could make such decisions; I merely suggest that...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 455 c715-8 (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Runnymede and Weybridge (Mr. Hammond) on an excellent a...
Mike Weir | 455 c708 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman mentions longevity, but does he accept that one problem is the disparity in longe...
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2023-12-11 09:40:06 +0000
URI
http://data.parliament.uk/pimsdata/hansard/PROCEEDING_61281
In Indexing
http://indexing.parliament.uk/Content/Edit/1?uri=http://data.parliament.uk/pimsdata/hansard/PROCEEDING_61281
In Solr
https://search.parliament.uk/claw/solr/?id=http://data.parliament.uk/pimsdata/hansard/PROCEEDING_61281