Police and Justice Bill. Report stage and Third reading debate. Agreed to on question. Passed.
Police and Justice Bill
Debate on bills on Wednesday, 10 May 2006,
in the House of Commons,
led by Liam Byrne.
The answering
member was Lord Herbert of South Downs.
About these Parliamentary proceedings
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Police and Justice Bill. As amended in Standing Committee D.
Tuesday, 28 March 2006
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Proceeding contributions
Speaker | 446 c319-21 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments: Government amendments Nos. 46, ...
Liam Byrne | 446 c322 (Link to this contribution)
Amalgamations are not the subject of the Bill, but I will address the question of related powers in ...
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Lord McLoughlin | 446 c322 (Link to this contribution)
I realise that the Minister is new to his responsibilities, but can he tell us whether it is the Hom...
Liam Byrne | 446 c319 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Simon Burns | 446 c324 (Link to this contribution)
What is the difference in principle between the Government wanting to discover the wishes of local p...
Liam Byrne | 446 c323-4 (Link to this contribution)
I will come to the question of amalgamations shortly.
In Committee, many hon. Members accepted the ...
David Howarth | 446 c322 (Link to this contribution)
I have heard the Minister’s predecessor make that argument. Is not there a change of principle invol...
Liam Byrne | 446 c325 (Link to this contribution)
It is not for me to second-guess the Prime Minister’s motives on anything. [Laughter.] Let me return...
Mark Pritchard | 446 c325 (Link to this contribution)
On that point, is not the Minister aware that there is already resilience in West Mercia and the wes...
Liam Byrne | 446 c324 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for that intervention, but two issues need teasing apart. First,...
Mark Pritchard | 446 c324 (Link to this contribution)
Is not the answer to my hon. Friend’s question that many police forces have undertaken their own mar...
Liam Byrne | 446 c324 (Link to this contribution)
No, a number of mergers are currently under consideration, and we are in a period of reviewing objec...
Tobias Ellwood | 446 c324 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister referred to the fact that the previous Administration provided the opportunity for poli...
Liam Byrne | 446 c324 (Link to this contribution)
As I shall explain in a moment, the provisions for merging force areas set out in the 1996 Act put s...
Owen Paterson | 446 c326 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister has mentioned the Home Secretary’s role a couple of times. As we know, the Home Secreta...
Liam Byrne | 446 c325 (Link to this contribution)
If the hon. Gentleman will permit me, I will focus on the object of the Bill.
Owen Paterson | 446 c325 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 446 c326-7 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the new Minister of State to his post, and congratulate him on successfully seeking politi...
Liam Byrne | 446 c325 (Link to this contribution)
I will just finish this point.
Secondly, on the role of the House, I want to answer directly the po...
Tobias Ellwood | 446 c325 (Link to this contribution)
May I pose the same question to the Minister again? Since 1994, constabularies have been allowed to ...
Baroness Featherstone | 446 c434-5 (Link to this contribution)
Our debates on the Bill have been good natured, especially in Committee, and some interesting amendm...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 446 c433-4 (Link to this contribution)
The central premise of the Bill is that Ministers believe that they know what is best for local comm...
William Cash | 446 c434 (Link to this contribution)
Will my hon. Friend give way?
Dominic Grieve | 446 c408-30 (Link to this contribution)
Although I warmly welcome the Minister’s arrival at the Dispatch Box, I cannot welcome her words thi...
Liam Byrne | 446 c430-3 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.
In concluding our debates on the measures ...
Speaker | 446 c430 (Link to this contribution)
It takes me all my time to advise this House, without extending my advice to the other place. The ho...
Joan Ryan | 446 c407 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry that I shall not accept any more Back-Bench interventions, as there is very little time.
...
Joan Ryan | 446 c408 (Link to this contribution)
There is a deep misunderstanding on the part of the Opposition of the issue of reciprocity, perhaps ...
Dominic Grieve | 446 c408 (Link to this contribution)
Why did we embark on a treaty revision with the United States if we could have proceeded on the basi...
Joan Ryan | 446 c407 (Link to this contribution)
I will give way in a moment.
Members to the convention do not require prima facie evidence from one...
Lord Howard of Lympne | 446 c407 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister identify any cases from any of the countries that she has so painstakingly and pai...
Lord Howard of Lympne | 446 c407 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Joan Ryan | 446 c407 (Link to this contribution)
I will give way in a moment.
We have before us a better and faster approach to extradition. Among t...
Lord Howard of Lympne | 446 c406;446 c407 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Joan Ryan | 446 c406 (Link to this contribution)
I will give way in a moment.
It is clear that particular cases that we cannot discuss in the House ...
Lord Howard of Lympne | 446 c406 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Joan Ryan | 446 c405-6 (Link to this contribution)
It is with pride that I rise to speak at the Dispatch Box for the first time for my Government. I am...
Liam Byrne | 446 c365 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Liam Byrne | 446 c368;446 c367-8 (Link to this contribution)
The purpose of new clause 6 is to render crystal clear the provisions in the Police and Criminal Evi...
Liam Byrne | 446 c366 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Speaker | 446 c367 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments:
No. 32, in page 7, line 15, le...
Keith Vaz | 446 c366 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend for his generosity in giving way a second time and I am grateful for his stat...
Liam Byrne | 446 c366 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for raising that. I am advised that the proposals to release death r...
Keith Vaz | 446 c365 (Link to this contribution)
I join others in congratulating my hon. Friend on his appointment as deputy Home Secretary. How will...
Liam Byrne | 446 c365-6 (Link to this contribution)
If my hon. Friend will permit me, I shall ensure that I have chapter and verse about that before I w...
Speaker | 446 c365 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss Government amendments Nos. 44, 48 and 80.
Liam Byrne | 446 c365 (Link to this contribution)
The purpose of the new clause is to give registrars general in England, Wales and Northern Ireland t...
Dominic Grieve | 446 c386-7 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes an important point. The cases that I was citing are cases in which, I fear, the...
Bob Spink | 446 c387 (Link to this contribution)
I am following my hon. Friend’s arguments carefully, and he is making a lot of sense, but given that...
Dominic Grieve | 446 c387-8 (Link to this contribution)
I hesitate to be so certain in my own mind. We know enough about the criminal justice system to know...
Speaker | 446 c392-3 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments: No. 114, in page 125, line 3 [S...
Liam Byrne | 446 c390-2 (Link to this contribution)
I share that concern and I was keen to understand the issue when it was raised in my briefing from o...
Bob Spink | 446 c390 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the Minister to his new position, which I forgot to mention earlier. I welcome his approac...
Dominic Grieve | 446 c392 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Bob Spink | 446 c392 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for considering the amendments. I beg to ask leave to withdraw the mot...
Dominic Grieve | 446 c397 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right, in that the House and the Conservative party accepted assura...
David Heath | 446 c398-400 (Link to this contribution)
I accept what the hon. Gentleman says, and that he and his colleagues acted in good faith; I simply ...
David Heath | 446 c397 (Link to this contribution)
I rise to speak in support of new clause 8, which stands in the name of the hon. Member for Beaconsf...
Mark Pritchard | 446 c396 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend mentions the Enron case, which involves serious amounts of money. Is he aware, howeve...
Mark Pritchard | 446 c404-5 (Link to this contribution)
I rise to support the new clause that has been tabled by my right hon. and hon. Friends. We can unde...
Lord Maples | 446 c404 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry. I was looking at the wrong Minister. Perhaps she is not so new to the job. I ask her to ...
Joan Ryan | 446 c404 (Link to this contribution)
I am listening.
Lord Maples | 446 c402-3 (Link to this contribution)
I rise to support everything that has been said by the three Members who have spoken. My hon. Friend...
Lord Howard of Lympne | 446 c400-2 (Link to this contribution)
I begin by welcoming the Minister to his new responsibilities. Far be it from me to give him advice,...
Liam Byrne | 446 c368-71 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman slightly misheard what I said. I said that conditional cautions had been trialled...
Diana Johnson | 446 c372 (Link to this contribution)
My understanding is that a person must accept the caution, and that if they are not happy to do so, ...
Baroness Featherstone | 446 c371-2 (Link to this contribution)
I want to make it clear that we are not against sanctions such as street bail; we believe that they ...
David TC Davies | 446 c374 (Link to this contribution)
Surely people who are cautioned are jolly lucky that they are not being charged with an offence in t...
Baroness Featherstone | 446 c372-4 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady is right to an extent, but a person who was rich and able to pay might well accept a c...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 446 c375-6 (Link to this contribution)
I wish to lend my party’s support to some of the concerns that underlie the amendments, if not the a...
Baroness Featherstone | 446 c374-5 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes a good point, but that is a completely different discussion.
It is clear t...
David Burrowes | 446 c377 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that there is a wider concern? As the Carter review recommends restricting...
James Brokenshire | 446 c376-7 (Link to this contribution)
This issue was discussed in some detail in Committee, so I shall be brief. However, I shall begin by...
Liam Byrne | 446 c377-8 (Link to this contribution)
With your permission, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I shall make one or two concluding remarks.
Many years ag...
Bob Spink | 446 c378 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
James Brokenshire | 446 c377 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend speaks from his practical experience as a criminal solicitor before he entered the Ho...
David TC Davies | 446 c385 (Link to this contribution)
I support the amendment tabled by my hon. Friend the Member for Castle Point (Bob Spink). I understa...
Paul Beresford | 446 c381-5 (Link to this contribution)
I shall speak to new clauses 2, 3, 9 and 10 and amendment No. 42, on behalf of my hon. Friends and m...
Bob Spink | 446 c380-1 (Link to this contribution)
According to answers to my parliamentary questions, the police cautioned 807 such people in the past...
Speaker | 446 c378-80 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: New clause 2—Encrypted data and indecent p...
Paul Beresford | 446 c386 (Link to this contribution)
The paedophile police, if I may use Daily Mail terminology, say that if they get offenders or potent...
Dominic Grieve | 446 c386 (Link to this contribution)
I, too, welcome the Minister to the Dispatch Box.
In tabling new clause 1, my hon. Friend the Membe...
Joan Walley | 446 c385-6 (Link to this contribution)
In welcoming my hon. Friend the Minister to his new post, I should like to draw his attention to a l...
Chris Ruane | 446 c340 (Link to this contribution)
What about Plaid Cymru?
Mark Tami | 446 c340 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed. Plaid Cymru Members are not bothering to take part either.
Ian Lucas | 446 c340 (Link to this contribution)
That is a matter for concern. A lot of heat has been generated, but Labour MPs in Wales have done an...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 446 c340 (Link to this contribution)
On the precise issue of basic command units, are there not smoke and mirrors, and sleight of hand by...
Michael Fabricant | 446 c339 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman. He mentioned basic command units and I agree with much of what ...
Ian Lucas | 446 c339 (Link to this contribution)
I think that I had better give way to the hon. Member for Lichfield (Michael Fabricant) now.
Mark Tami | 446 c340 (Link to this contribution)
Is my hon. Friend surprised that despite everything that the three Tory MPs in Wales have said about...
Ian Lucas | 446 c340 (Link to this contribution)
The previous Home Secretary was well aware that Members of Parliament representing north Wales had p...
Albert Owen | 446 c339 (Link to this contribution)
The port of Holyhead is in my constituency. There was concern about the transfer of policing from th...
Ian Lucas | 446 c339 (Link to this contribution)
I will give way to my hon. Friend—
Hon. Members: Oh!
Albert Owen | 446 c339 (Link to this contribution)
Will my hon. Friend give way?
Michael Fabricant | 446 c339 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Mark Pritchard | 446 c339 (Link to this contribution)
Part of the Government’s explanation of the reason for police mergers is that they will increase res...
Ian Lucas | 446 c339 (Link to this contribution)
I have no detailed knowledge of that proposal, but my hon. Friend the Member for Ynys Môn (Albert Ow...
Ian Lucas | 446 c338-9 (Link to this contribution)
It is essential that individuals and our constituents have links with the police at the most local l...
Simon Burns | 446 c338 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friends and I recognise that the hon. Gentleman is absolutely right to say that it is import...
Ian Lucas | 446 c338 (Link to this contribution)
I support the Government amendments, in particular new clause 4 and amendment No. 64.
The proposals...
Martin Horwood | 446 c336-8 (Link to this contribution)
No, I do not. It is plausible to have a regional government appropriate to the community that it ser...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 446 c336 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman agree that there appears to be a dichotomy between his party’s correct oppos...
Frank Cook | 446 c347-8 (Link to this contribution)
Search as I might in all sources available to me, I can find no justification for asserting that par...
Angela Watkinson | 446 c343 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman not agree that the composition of the local teams that he has referred to sh...
Ian Lucas | 446 c342-3 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. Investment pays off in policing. Community police teams, of...
Lord Maples | 446 c343-6 (Link to this contribution)
We have just had a 25-minute debate on community policing in north Wales in the middle of a debate o...
Ian Lucas | 446 c343 (Link to this contribution)
I entirely agree with the hon. Lady. One of the interesting innovations and developments that has ta...
David Leslie Taylor | 446 c347 (Link to this contribution)
Will my hon. Friend give way?
Frank Cook | 446 c346-7 (Link to this contribution)
It is always a pleasure to listen to the hon. Member for Stratford-on-Avon (Mr. Maples) and I always...
David Leslie Taylor | 446 c347 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is making a powerful point. Is he aware of any evidence that is adduced to sustain th...
Mark Tami | 446 c342 (Link to this contribution)
Will my hon. Friend join me in recognising that important work was done with council tax payers to e...
Albert Owen | 446 c342 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend echoes the sentiments of the North Wales police authority and the fear that resources...
Ian Lucas | 446 c342 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend the Minister has been in his current position for four days, as has his boss, the new...
Lembit Opik | 446 c341 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman will be aware that I agree with the points that he is making—they are reasonable—...
Ian Lucas | 446 c340-1 (Link to this contribution)
I am delighted that the hon. Gentleman makes the point about police numbers, because I was going to ...
Ian Lucas | 446 c342 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend presages many of the remarks that I intend to make. The amendments represent progress...
Martyn Jones | 446 c341-2 (Link to this contribution)
Although the amendments go some way towards helping with the situation that we foresee in north Wale...
Ian Lucas | 446 c341 (Link to this contribution)
I now turn specifically to the Government amendments that relate to the creation of an additional de...
Lembit Opik | 446 c341 (Link to this contribution)
I am conscious that we may be drifting a bit from the new clause, Madam Deputy Speaker, but the hon....
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 446 c356 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for your tolerance, Madam Deputy Speaker.
The proposals do nothing to tackle crime as...
Simon Burns | 446 c357 (Link to this contribution)
I support amendment No. 2, which was tabled by my hon. Friend the Member for Arundel and South Downs...
Bob Russell | 446 c357 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Simon Burns | 446 c358 (Link to this contribution)
With respect, I will not. This debate has been going on for almost two hours, but the hon. Gentleman...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 446 c353-5 (Link to this contribution)
This important issue has not received the airtime that it deserves. I shall confine my contribution ...
Jeremy Wright | 446 c355 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that in the scenario that he is describing, his constituents and mine are ...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 446 c356 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a good point. I am extremely concerned that we will see reductions in full-time...
Speaker | 446 c356 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I have been fairly generous with the hon. Gentleman, but he is going very wide of the new cla...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 446 c353 (Link to this contribution)
Is my hon. Friend concerned about something that has not been mentioned in our debate—the negative i...
Owen Paterson | 446 c353 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is quite right—there will chaos when the proposal is introduced. On the television la...
Owen Paterson | 446 c352-3 (Link to this contribution)
That is a prescient intervention, as I was about to say that policing began as a civic duty in Eliza...
Owen Paterson | 446 c351-2 (Link to this contribution)
No, the professor’s analysis was purely of the HMIC report. Given that it is constantly thrown at us...
Jeremy Wright | 446 c352 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend will have had conversations with police officers in his area, as I have had in mine. ...
Frank Cook | 446 c351 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman has been generous in accepting interventions. Did the professor make a comparison...
Owen Paterson | 446 c350 (Link to this contribution)
I was pursuing another profession at the time of the miners’ strike and I am not qualified to speak ...
David Leslie Taylor | 446 c350-1 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman fear for the amalgamation in which his own force will be involved, which is ...
Owen Paterson | 446 c348-50 (Link to this contribution)
It is a great honour and a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Stockton, North (Frank Cook). He m...
Frank Cook | 446 c350 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman consider for a second the amount of co-operation that took place between dif...
Frank Cook | 446 c348 (Link to this contribution)
You bet—I will prove it.
I appeal to the Minister, through you, Madam Deputy Speaker, please, pleas...
Lord Deben | 446 c362 (Link to this contribution)
Lest it go unnoticed, Suffolk does not wish to be amalgamated with Essex, Norfolk or Cambridgeshire....
Bob Russell | 446 c362 (Link to this contribution)
I think that the right hon. Gentleman misunderstood my point. If there were to be a case for amalgam...
Richard Shepherd | 446 c361-2 (Link to this contribution)
I, too, support amendment No. 82.
I represent a constituency on the far east of the west midlands a...
Bob Russell | 446 c362 (Link to this contribution)
I wanted to intervene on the hon. Member for West Chelmsford (Mr. Burns) to support the case that he...
Liam Byrne | 446 c363-5 (Link to this contribution)
I shall not because we have debated the matter at length.
It is right to add accountability to the ...
Liam Byrne | 446 c363 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Member for Arundel and South Downs (Nick Herbert) for his warm words of co...
Lord Deben | 446 c359 (Link to this contribution)
Before my hon. Friend leaves his encomium—stillborn—on the new Government Front Benchers, he might l...
Crispin Blunt | 446 c359-61 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend puts the point extremely well. Far from there being any cost to the Government ...
Crispin Blunt | 446 c358-9 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise to the House for having missed the first part of the debate, but it was for the good rea...
Chris Ruane | 446 c327 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman clarify his position, or rather his party’s position? Does his party support...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 446 c327 (Link to this contribution)
I think that the hon. Gentleman misunderstood me. I said quite clearly that I supported the new prov...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 446 c328 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend articulates precisely the fear expressed by police forces throughout the country that...
Ian Lucas | 446 c327 (Link to this contribution)
Is it not the case that police authorities may appoint, but such appointments will ultimately be sub...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 446 c328-9 (Link to this contribution)
Again, I think it unacceptable that that amount will be taken from the police capital budget and use...
Simon Burns | 446 c328 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend not find it rather bizarre that the Home Secretary is forcing on Bedfordshire, H...
Mark Pritchard | 446 c328 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that there will also be an impact on rural market towns in Shropshire? Is ...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 446 c329 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is being very generous in giving way. Does he agree that the Government could have me...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 446 c329-30 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is entirely right. Of course, the irony is that the federal option was proposed by th...
Owen Paterson | 446 c330 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is being very generous with his time. He knows that one of Peel’s nine principles was...
Mark Tami | 446 c331 (Link to this contribution)
That is probably because the hon. Gentleman’s colleague next to him was shouting. Given that the Tor...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 446 c331 (Link to this contribution)
I am very sorry but I did not catch the hon. Gentleman’s question; there was some noise from behind ...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 446 c331 (Link to this contribution)
No, I cannot.
The third argument advanced by the Government against local referendums—indeed, the M...
John Hayes | 446 c330 (Link to this contribution)
Will my hon. Friend invite Ministers and Members to hold their own plebiscites? I am carrying out a ...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 446 c330 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with every word that my hon. Friend says. If they were wise, the Government, the new Home Se...
Mark Tami | 446 c331 (Link to this contribution)
Given that the hon. Gentleman is very keen on referendums, can he tell us how many the Tories have h...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 446 c330-1 (Link to this contribution)
I like my hon. Friend’s idea, and should the Government reject amendment No. 82, which calls for ref...
Albert Owen | 446 c333 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman talks about localism and local debate. I have great concerns about the proposed a...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 446 c333-4 (Link to this contribution)
I understand, from all the public opinion polls and surveys that have been conducted in Wales and de...
Humfrey Malins | 446 c332 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way; he is arguing the case powerfully. He will know...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 446 c332-3 (Link to this contribution)
As a west Sussex Member, I agree with my hon. Friend. It is our force that will be merged with Surre...
Martin Horwood | 446 c336 (Link to this contribution)
I do not know the details of the Metropolitan force, but the hon. Lady and other hon. Members make a...
Angela Watkinson | 446 c335 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman mentioned metropolitan forces, but we need look no further than London’s Metropol...
Martin Horwood | 446 c335 (Link to this contribution)
I certainly agree with that. My hon. Friend must be pleased that he and his Welsh colleagues seem to...
Lembit Opik | 446 c334-5 (Link to this contribution)
I have been watching the debate from the comfort of my office—[Hon. Members: ““You should have been ...
Martin Horwood | 446 c334 (Link to this contribution)
I must first apologise to you, Mr. Speaker, for the absence of my hon. Friend the Member for Hornsey...
Speaker | 446 c334 (Link to this contribution)
Order. The hon. Gentleman cannot move that amendment at the moment. It is up for debate now, but it ...
Liam Byrne | 446 c321-2 (Link to this contribution)
I shall first deal briefly with the Government amendments.
Government amendment No. 75 is consequen...
Dominic Grieve | 446 c393-6 (Link to this contribution)
It is clear from early-day motions, which numerous Members of Parliament of all parties signed—the l...
Dominic Grieve | 446 c396-7 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, I am aware of that. The lowest threshold for such extradition to operate is £1,000. My hon. Fri...
Jeremy Wright | 446 c363 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 446 c327 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. There may be reductions in the number of senior staff. It no...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 446 c434 (Link to this contribution)
No, I apologise to my hon. Friend but I do not have time.
The Home Secretary is steadily assuming c...
Liam Byrne | 446 c388-90 (Link to this contribution)
I begin by associating myself wholeheartedly with the sentiments expressed by my hon. Friend the Mem...
Owen Paterson | 446 c351 (Link to this contribution)
I entirely agree with that. There is no question that the targets will be set by the Home Office; th...
Michael Fabricant | 446 c327-8 (Link to this contribution)
Is my hon. Friend aware that Staffordshire police authority came to speak to Staffordshire Members o...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 446 c328 (Link to this contribution)
I do find it shocking that mergers will cost so much. For several years, any savings that may be ach...
Liam Byrne | 446 c325-6 (Link to this contribution)
I will do so in a moment.
The amendment tabled by the right hon. Member for Haltemprice and Howden ...
Liam Byrne | 446 c326 (Link to this contribution)
There are two voices in particular to which I would expect the Home Secretary to listen. One is the ...
Joan Ryan | 446 c407 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. and learned Gentleman voices the deep distrust that we see in the new clause, and tha...
Ian Lucas | 446 c341 (Link to this contribution)
There were enormous improvements to policing in north Wales under the previous Home Secretary. I am ...
David TC Davies | 446 c368 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister just said that cautions had been very successful in dealing with persistent offenders. ...
Ian Lucas | 446 c339 (Link to this contribution)
I should like to make a little progress.
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