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Animal Welfare Bill

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 10 January 2006, in the House of Commons, led by Baroness Beckett. The answering member was Peter Ainsworth.
Animal Welfare Bill. Second reading debate. Agreed to on question. Programme motion on proceedings in Committee, on Report, Third reading and any other proceedings agreed to on question (formal). Money resolution agreed to on question (formal).

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

441 c161-249 

Session

2005-06

Legislative stage

Second reading

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber
Animal Welfare Bill. Explanatory Notes Bill 58-EN also published. (Vote)
Thursday, 13 October 2005
Bills
House of Commons

Proceeding contributions

Speaker | 441 c175 (Link to this contribution) May I remind right hon. and hon. Members that Mr. Speaker has imposed a time limit of 12 minutes on ...
Ben Bradshaw | 441 c248 (Link to this contribution) There is nothing to prevent the issuing of written warnings. We are simply keen not to dictate to th...

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Bill Wiggin | 441 c248 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister consider issuing written warnings before prosecution for failures under the duty o...
Ben Bradshaw | 441 c248 (Link to this contribution) I am not quite sure what point the hon. Gentleman is making, but of course I accept that there is a ...
James Gray | 441 c248 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister acknowledge that there is a difference between electric shock collars and electric...
Ben Bradshaw | 441 c247 (Link to this contribution) They are regarded as protected animals and will be covered by the new Bill, not as farm animals. I ...
Norman Baker | 441 c247 (Link to this contribution) Are game birds kept in cages regarded in law as protected animals to be covered by the new Bill or a...
Justine Greening | 441 c210 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a good point, with which I thoroughly agree. That is potentially a way in w...
Greg Mulholland | 441 c210 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has pre-empted part of my speech. He makes a fair point, to which I will refer la...
Charles Walker | 441 c209-10 (Link to this contribution) Undoubtedly, abandonment is cruel, but how would the hon. Gentleman trace the owner of an abandoned ...
Greg Mulholland | 441 c208-9 (Link to this contribution) Luckily, we are not particularly sensitive, as I think we have proved. I shall ignore the hon. Gentl...
Peter Ainsworth | 441 c208 (Link to this contribution) I am fascinated by what the hon. Gentleman has to say about his own party. He need not be over-sensi...
Greg Mulholland | 441 c208 (Link to this contribution) First, I would like to say how pleased I am to be taking part in what has been an excellent debate o...
Andrew Rosindell | 441 c202-5 (Link to this contribution) As hon. Members will know, I am the proud owner of Buster, a two-year-old Staffordshire bull terrier...
David Leslie Taylor | 441 c205-8 (Link to this contribution) I am in the rare position of agreeing with almost every word of a speech by the hon. Member for Romf...
David Drew | 441 c200-2 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to take part in the debate. We have all made comments about the late Tony Banks. I am...
Mark Pritchard | 441 c222 (Link to this contribution) In a moment. I want to finish an important point. As we know, according to the Government’s statisti...
Justine Greening | 441 c217-9 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to be able to speak in this debate, and I begin by declaring two interests. First, th...
Lord Wills | 441 c216-7 (Link to this contribution) Like all other Members, I very much welcome this Bill, which will be as significant in our time as t...
Mark Pritchard | 441 c221-2 (Link to this contribution) I pay tribute to the Government for introducing the Bill, which I support, but I would ask the Gover...
Anne Snelgrove | 441 c219-21 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to speak in a debate in which a Bill is welcomed on both sides of the House, albeit...
Bill Etherington | 441 c211-3 (Link to this contribution) It is a great pleasure and privilege to speak in this debate, which is one of the best that I have h...
James Duddridge | 441 c213-5 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Sunderland, North (Bill Etherington) mentioned greyhounds. I agreed with much of...
Andrew Turner | 441 c215 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend accept that one danger associated with secondary legislation is that it cannot b...
Angela C Smith | 441 c227-8 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the Bill for the reasons outlined: because it updates and consolidates animal welfare law,...
Philip Hollobone | 441 c225-7 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Member for Llanelli (Nia Griffith) on her speech. I shall speak about the we...
Nia Griffith | 441 c224-5 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the Bill, especially because I know that in its long gestation period—something like twice...
Mark Pritchard | 441 c224 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for endorsing my point. I hope that the Government will examine the ...
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 441 c222 (Link to this contribution) I was not aware that the provision of a dog or cat flap was a planning issue. Can my hon. Friend tak...
Mark Pritchard | 441 c223-4 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend raises a helpful and interesting point. It is not a matter of either/or but of both. ...
Justine Greening | 441 c224 (Link to this contribution) I believe that research conducted in America shows that there is a close link between child abuse an...
Mark Pritchard | 441 c222-3 (Link to this contribution) I suspect that my hon. Friend is leading me into a trap, but I shall not go there. I agree; such pro...
Andrew Turner | 441 c223 (Link to this contribution) : Has my hon. Friend received a report from the WAVE—Worldwide Alternatives to Violence—Trust, whose...
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 441 c234 (Link to this contribution) I just want to develop this point very quickly. As the Kennel Club has pointed out, many breeds are ...
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 441 c235 (Link to this contribution) That is precisely my point. They will stop breeding these unfortunate breeds. However, I have no dou...
Ann Widdecombe | 441 c234-5 (Link to this contribution) If tail docking is about to be driven underground, it seems to me to be an extraordinary underground...
Baroness Keeley | 441 c231-3 (Link to this contribution) I join right hon. and hon. Members on both sides of the House in welcoming the Bill. It is gratifyin...
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 441 c233-4 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the opportunity to contribute to our debate. Mine is the last Back-Bench contribut...
Ann Widdecombe | 441 c234 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way. First, how young a puppy has he dealt with, and...
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 441 c234 (Link to this contribution) As I say, the research is worth considering in some detail, but the sources that I am quoting appear...
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 441 c234 (Link to this contribution) This is an extremely important point to which my right hon. Friend referred, which is whether I woul...
Eric Martlew | 441 c184 (Link to this contribution) I do not disagree with that, but I assume that the duty of care would constitute a catch-all, and th...
Martin Horwood | 441 c184 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has dismissed television, but does he not agree that one of the advantages of mod...
Eric Martlew | 441 c184 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree. In the 1940s and 1950s there might have been a case for the use of wild animals in...
Patrick Hall | 441 c181-2 (Link to this contribution) : The hon. Gentleman has mentioned certain controversial issues that he wants to address by tabling ...
Norman Baker | 441 c182 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an interesting point, but it is theoretical because we have heard no such p...
Eric Martlew | 441 c182-4 (Link to this contribution) First, as the current chair of the associate parliamentary group on animal welfare, I want to pay tr...
Tony Baldry | 441 c184 (Link to this contribution) The Select Committee made it very clear that the Government should consider whether mental suffering...
Eric Martlew | 441 c184 (Link to this contribution) No, a nanny state. According to MORI, 60 per cent. of people oppose the use of wild animals in circu...
Vera Baird | 441 c184-5 (Link to this contribution) I would have preferred travelling circuses to be regulated, or indeed banned. I entirely agree with ...
Ann Widdecombe | 441 c185-7 (Link to this contribution) I join those other Members who have paid much-deserved tribute to Tony Banks. Tony was a tremendous ...
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 441 c187 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to pre-empt any of my right hon. Friend’s remarks, but does she think that there are s...
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 441 c185 (Link to this contribution) Is not the answer to the hon. Gentleman’s question that if vets are not doing it, it is illegal unde...
Eric Martlew | 441 c185 (Link to this contribution) It is pretty obvious that if a dog has not got a tail, it is not going to injure it. I would ban all...
Ann Widdecombe | 441 c188 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has just enlightened me and probably a large section of the House with his learned di...
James Gray | 441 c188 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend give way?
Ann Widdecombe | 441 c187 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend’s timing is immaculate, as was the case earlier with an intervention on my hon. Frien...
Tony Baldry | 441 c187-8 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend may be surprised to learn that that line comes from case law—Ford v. Wiley—from...
Ann Widdecombe | 441 c188 (Link to this contribution) Yes, for the last time, although I may regret doing so.
Eric Martlew | 441 c185 (Link to this contribution) That is probably true, but if I asked the Minister, I am sure he would not say that the clause would...
Paddy Tipping | 441 c189-91 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to follow the right hon. Member for Maidstone and The Weald (Miss Widdecombe) who, wi...
Derek Conway | 441 c191-4 (Link to this contribution) It is a delight to follow the hon. Member for Sherwood (Paddy Tipping), who made a reasoned, and sea...
Charles Walker | 441 c194 (Link to this contribution) I have some sympathy with my hon. Friend on the issue of tail docking. How would he see the matter b...
Derek Conway | 441 c194-5 (Link to this contribution) I take my hon. Friend’s point. Our family pet has a docked tail, and had one when we took it in. Man...
Shona McIsaac | 441 c195-6 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to take part in the debate and to follow the hon. Member for Old Bexley and Sidcup (D...
James Gray | 441 c196 (Link to this contribution) Does that include the use of horses as performing animals in circuses?
James Gray | 441 c197-200 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Cleethorpes (Shona McIsaac) follows a long succession of speakers in our debate,...
Ann Widdecombe | 441 c188-9 (Link to this contribution) Wherever cruelty or unnatural treatment is involved in the maintenance of an animal for no good reas...
James Gray | 441 c188 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend will not regret giving way, because I entirely endorse much of what she has sai...
Bill Wiggin | 441 c238-40 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the hon. Gentleman will forgive me for that—I think he understood perfectly what I me...
Norman Baker | 441 c238 (Link to this contribution) The meat is not on the face of it?
Bill Wiggin | 441 c240 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. The RSPCA has asked not to be given, and has not been given,...
Norman Baker | 441 c240 (Link to this contribution) I want to pick the hon. Gentleman up on his point about the RSPCA. As I understand it, the organisat...
Mark Pritchard | 441 c235 (Link to this contribution) : Will my hon. Friend join me in condemning a certain person currently appearing on ““Big Brother””,...
Bill Wiggin | 441 c236-8 (Link to this contribution) In the Chinese year of the dog, I should declare that I have some chickens and at least three cows—h...
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 441 c235-6 (Link to this contribution) I certainly will. I visited the ““Big Brother”” house this morning to discuss the conduct of the hon...
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 441 c240 (Link to this contribution) May I endorse the point made by my hon. Friend in answer to the hon. Member for Lewes (Norman Baker)...
Bill Wiggin | 441 c240 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. The hon. Member for Lewes should not see this as an attack on th...
Ben Bradshaw | 441 c243 (Link to this contribution) Action can already be taken if such treatment is deemed abusive or cruel, but there will be no funda...
James Gray | 441 c243 (Link to this contribution) What does the Minister think about the use of the whip in horse racing? Would it be covered by the B...
Ben Bradshaw | 441 c242-3 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right: New Zealand. Norway has included crustaceans, but not cephalopods. The...
Ben Bradshaw | 441 c242 (Link to this contribution) I thank Members on both sides of the House for what has been an excellent debate. It was at all time...
Bill Wiggin | 441 c241-2 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a very good point. We all know, from the number of letters that we receive, how...
James Gray | 441 c241 (Link to this contribution) Has my hon. Friend noticed a worrying aspect of this evening’s debate, which is that most Members wh...
Bill Wiggin | 441 c240-1 (Link to this contribution) I refer the hon. Gentleman to what the Select Committee said on the subject. I think that he will fi...
Norman Baker | 441 c244 (Link to this contribution) Not entirely, but I am glad that the Minister has picked up on this point. It is perfectly possible ...
Ben Bradshaw | 441 c244 (Link to this contribution) I take the hon. Gentleman’s point, but there are all sorts of difficulties and complications associa...
Greg Mulholland | 441 c244 (Link to this contribution) I do not doubt that the definition gives rise to certain issues, but does the Minister not agree tha...
Ben Bradshaw | 441 c244 (Link to this contribution) In a second; let me first explain that our removing from the Bill specific reference to abandonment ...
Eric Martlew | 441 c245 (Link to this contribution) That means not only that she is not with others of her species, but that she is carted around the co...
Ben Bradshaw | 441 c244-5 (Link to this contribution) It is and it will be prosecuted as such under the Bill, but it does not need to be referred to speci...
Mark Pritchard | 441 c245 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister agree that the Government are in danger of causing the greatest harm to animals th...
Ben Bradshaw | 441 c245 (Link to this contribution) I was about to explain that, although Ellie is no longer used in acts, she has been in captivity all...
David Lepper | 441 c246 (Link to this contribution) I believe that the Minister is wrong in that, and in my contribution I made it clear that I wanted t...
Ben Bradshaw | 441 c245-6 (Link to this contribution) I shall come to some of the sanctions in a moment, but I do not agree at all with that analysis. I ...
Ben Bradshaw | 441 c246-7 (Link to this contribution) Some may, but others would like a ban on all such gatherings. The Government are not convinced that ...
Lembit Opik | 441 c164 (Link to this contribution) Is the Secretary of State satisfied that the Bill clearly defines the point at which the status of b...
Baroness Beckett | 441 c164 (Link to this contribution) We are very aware of the concerns to which my hon. Friend draws attention. We take them very serious...
Paul Flynn | 441 c164 (Link to this contribution) Has my right hon. Friend seen evidence from Animal Aid, for example, of what appear to be very cruel...
Baroness Beckett | 441 c165 (Link to this contribution) I am very conscious indeed that the docking of dogs’ tails is a controversial practice. At present, ...
Emily Thornberry | 441 c165 (Link to this contribution) A number of my constituents have expressed to me the view that to take away a dog’s tail is to mutil...
Rob Marris | 441 c163 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for her generosity and I, too, salute the Bill. In setting the...
Baroness Beckett | 441 c163-4 (Link to this contribution) Obviously, the existence of devolution means that a slightly different approach is taken on one or t...
David Leslie Taylor | 441 c163 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my right hon. Friend on presenting a landmark Bill, the first for 100 years or more—s...
Baroness Beckett | 441 c163 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is entirely right and I am very conscious of the fact that this issue was raised duri...
Andrew Pelling | 441 c166 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way?
Baroness Beckett | 441 c166 (Link to this contribution) Obviously, that will be a matter for the parliamentary authorities as the Bill goes through the Ho...
Andrew Pelling | 441 c166 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Secretary of State and hope that she will forgive me for mentioning tail-docking for a f...
Baroness Beckett | 441 c166-7 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an interesting point, which goes to the heart of many of the concerns that ...
Derek Conway | 441 c165 (Link to this contribution) I think that hon. Members of all parties very much welcome what the Secretary of State is saying, bu...
Baroness Beckett | 441 c165 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely, and I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for raising the issue and allowing me to give th...
Bob Spink | 441 c165 (Link to this contribution) I very much welcome this Bill, which is long overdue. However, I wish to return to the question of t...
Baroness Beckett | 441 c165-6 (Link to this contribution) I can certainly assure the hon. Gentleman that I fully anticipate that the matter will be aired exte...
Nick Palmer | 441 c166 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my right hon. Friend and her team for bringing forward this Bill, which is welcomed...
Baroness Beckett | 441 c162-3 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has made an important point, and I am happy to give him that assurance. We are ve...
Baroness Beckett | 441 c163 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman was also right to remind us of the employment implications. I take his point enti...
James Gray | 441 c162 (Link to this contribution) We all accept the necessity for the flexibility in legislation to which the Secretary of State has r...
Baroness Beckett | 441 c161-2 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time. The whole House will understand that it wou...
Mark Prisk | 441 c162 (Link to this contribution) May I take up what was said by my hon. Friend the Member for North Wiltshire (Mr. Gray)? Many riding...
Baroness Beckett | 441 c162 (Link to this contribution) I certainly give that undertaking, and will give it more explicitly later in my speech. I appreciate...
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 441 c178 (Link to this contribution) : I offer the hon. Gentleman my wholehearted support for his amendment. I understand that the Animal...
Norman Baker | 441 c178-9 (Link to this contribution) It is true that we can learn from Scotland in many ways. One of the advantages of the devolutionary ...
David Drew | 441 c181 (Link to this contribution) May I give the hon. Gentleman another example of a provision that has been watered down? It concerns...
Norman Baker | 441 c181 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree with the hon. Gentleman, and, at risk of sounding repetitive, I shall table an amen...
James Duddridge | 441 c181 (Link to this contribution) Is not there a contradiction involved in proposing all these amendments and new clauses? This is, af...
Norman Baker | 441 c181 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman appears to be disagreeing with his Front-Bench team, because the argument for mor...
Tony Baldry | 441 c179 (Link to this contribution) Much has been made of the work done by the Select Committee on Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, ...
Norman Baker | 441 c179-80 (Link to this contribution) I certainly hope so. We also need to revisit some issues from the draft Bill. The Bill may be an imp...
Vera Baird | 441 c180 (Link to this contribution) Are not the two issues that the hon. Gentleman mentions interlinked? Is not it likely that the Gover...
Norman Baker | 441 c180-1 (Link to this contribution) Yes. I have tremendous respect for the hon. and learned Lady’s legal background, having served on th...
Eric Martlew | 441 c173 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Wantage (Mr. Vaizey) just intervened to make a point about the internet, which w...
Peter Ainsworth | 441 c173 (Link to this contribution) I agree. In fairness, the Government have said that they will consult before introducing any of thes...
Rob Marris | 441 c173 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is talking about those who will be affected by the proposed legislation. Sadly, s...
Peter Ainsworth | 441 c173 (Link to this contribution) That is a fair point. I fully understand the need for flexibility and I am sympathetic to that, as I...
John Redwood | 441 c174 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend think that tail docking should be included in the anti-mutilation provisions? Wi...
Peter Ainsworth | 441 c173-4 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has sharp eyes; they are sharper than mine. I take his word for it. I have no dou...
Eric Martlew | 441 c174 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Peter Ainsworth | 441 c174 (Link to this contribution) I am coming to that very point, on which there is a great deal of interest. I ask my right hon. Frie...
Eric Martlew | 441 c175 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman refers to ambiguities. The new leader of the Conservative party has said that he ...
David Lepper | 441 c176-7 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the assurance given to the Select Committee in November 2005 on that issue. The Minister w...
Patrick Hall | 441 c176 (Link to this contribution) : I congratulate my hon. Friend on being called in this debate on such an important matter. Does he ...
David Lepper | 441 c175-6 (Link to this contribution) May I join hon. Members who have congratulated the Secretary of State and the Department of the Envi...
David Drew | 441 c178 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that one simple thing that could be done is to ban the keeping of prim...
Norman Baker | 441 c178 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure whether that comment falls within the terms of the Bill, and it is not entirely accura...
David Leslie Taylor | 441 c177-8 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way, which allows me to clarify that I did not say th...
Peter Ainsworth | 441 c175 (Link to this contribution) I am not surprised that the issue of fox hunting has been raised. I do not think that you would be p...
Norman Baker | 441 c178 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree. I am sure that the Secretary of State will resist a shopping list of desirable act...
Baroness Beckett | 441 c167-9 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend also makes an important point. I can assure her that we are prepared to look at the i...
Shona McIsaac | 441 c167 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend acknowledge that because of the increased duty of care that the Bill intro...
Baroness Beckett | 441 c169 (Link to this contribution) I will give way for the final time, but for the first time to the Opposition Front Bench.
James Paice | 441 c169 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way?
Baroness Beckett | 441 c167 (Link to this contribution) Well, the Bill does not give greater powers to the RSPCA. The issue will, I am sure, arise in Commit...
Peter Bone | 441 c167 (Link to this contribution) I wish to make a point that was made to me by a highly respected member of my constituency, who is t...
James Paice | 441 c169 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Secretary of State and appreciate her indulgence. Will the right hon. Lady cla...
Baroness Beckett | 441 c169 (Link to this contribution) The heavier fine is obviously thought to be right where there is active cruelty. It was not thought ...
Baroness Beckett | 441 c169 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman looks at the legislation that the Bill replaces, he will see that there were s...
Peter Ainsworth | 441 c172 (Link to this contribution) I cannot say that I am wholly confident of that because it is one of the matters that will be dealt ...
Theresa Villiers | 441 c172 (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend confident that the Bill will give sufficient protection to the 9,000 or so greyhou...
Peter Ainsworth | 441 c171-2 (Link to this contribution) The first and most obvious point is that a person would have to be pretty strange to have a pet slug...
James Gray | 441 c171 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend accept that the logic of his argument means that slugs and snails in the garden,...
Peter Ainsworth | 441 c170-1 (Link to this contribution) May I begin by entirely endorsing what the Secretary of State said about Tony Banks? He would have l...
Baroness Beckett | 441 c169-70 (Link to this contribution) I was not going to mention that. There is such a mood of consensus and support across the House that...
Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 441 c172 (Link to this contribution) May I give my hon. Friend a specific example of the contents of the regulatory impact assessment? I ...
Peter Ainsworth | 441 c172 (Link to this contribution) I believe that the hon. Gentleman served on the Committee that looked at the draft Bill. It is not f...
Greg Mulholland | 441 c210-1 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Lady for that helpful intervention, which brings me on to the issue of microchippin...
Patrick Hall | 441 c172 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right to say that a number of highly important and controversial issues will b...
James Duddridge | 441 c215-6 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a very good point, and I am worried about the degree of scrutiny. Members of th...
David Amess | 441 c228-31 (Link to this contribution) I am absolutely delighted that all the animal welfare issues that I and other hon. Members have camp...
Shona McIsaac | 441 c196-7 (Link to this contribution) Certainly, my constituents would wish to include them, given the way in which they can be trained. T...
Baroness Beckett | 441 c165 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right, and BASC has been extremely helpful. That is exactly the sor...
Baroness Beckett | 441 c166 (Link to this contribution) I will, but probably for the last time, as otherwise I shall be at the Dispatch Box forever and no o...
Norman Baker | 441 c177 (Link to this contribution) First, may I add my comments to those of other hon. Members about Tony Banks, who did a great deal i...
Eric Martlew | 441 c240 (Link to this contribution) I think that it is an attack on the RSPCA, unless the hon. Gentleman can come up with an answer to t...
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