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Identity Cards Bill 2005-06

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Monday, 12 December 2005, in the House of Lords.
Identity Cards Bill. Lords Committee stage fourth day. Schedule 1 agreed to. Clauses 4 to 7 agreed to. New clause under consideration. (Part 1 of 2 records).

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

676 c971-1039 

Session

2005-06

Department

Home Office

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber

Proceeding contributions

Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 676 c997-8 (Link to this contribution) I understand perfectly what the noble Lord, Lord Peyton, said and I have to agree with him. The Mini...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 676 c998-9 (Link to this contribution) According to the Bill, we will volunteer to have our names on the register; it is all voluntary unti...

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Lord Peyton of Yeovil | 676 c998 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the noble Lord could enlighten me whether ““may””, which is used so frequently here, ought t...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 676 c998 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether I may attempt to answer the question asked by the noble Lord, Lord Stoddart. To haz...
Countess of Mar | 676 c999-1000 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I can move to cows. The more speeches I hear on this amendment, the more I wonder how on ear...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 676 c999 (Link to this contribution) We disassociate ourselves with any comparison between the noble Baroness and a Trojan horse.
Lord Peyton of Yeovil | 676 c999 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether my noble friend Lord Onslow has understood the situation. I regard the Minister not...
Earl of Onslow | 676 c999 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted that the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford, stopped me from speaking so that he cou...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 676 c1000 (Link to this contribution) I am most obliged to the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford, for enlightening me about the implicat...
Earl of Onslow | 676 c994-5 (Link to this contribution) Before my noble friend withdraws her amendment, I have to say how depressed I am by seeing that long...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c995 (Link to this contribution) My guess is that it will sequential, as it is with your cheque or Visa card. These have a different ...
Countess of Mar | 676 c995 (Link to this contribution) The Minister said that replacement cards would have to have a new number. Is that new number in orde...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c995-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 96A:"Page 43, line 8, leave out paragraph (c)." The noble Lord said: The amendm...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c995 (Link to this contribution) I agree wholeheartedly with my noble friend Lord Onslow about some of the problems. I beg leave to w...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 676 c996-7 (Link to this contribution) I am very interested in what the Minister will say in reply to the amendment. I spoke at Second Read...
Lord Peyton of Yeovil | 676 c996 (Link to this contribution) I very much share the curiosity of the noble Lord, Lord Phillips, who has moved the amendment. I hop...
Lord Peyton of Yeovil | 676 c997 (Link to this contribution) I probably made a mistake—perhaps I was unduly influenced by the fact that it was the noble Baroness...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 676 c997 (Link to this contribution) I very much agree with what the noble Lord, Lord Peyton, said about the lady who was arrested by two...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 676 c1004 (Link to this contribution) How can that be squared with Clause 14(2)? It says that:"““The only information about an individual ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1004 (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether the noble Lord was with us when we had an extensive debate about the basis upo...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1003-4 (Link to this contribution) I simply remind the Committee that the whole of the Data Protection Act bites on this Bill. All the ...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 676 c1006 (Link to this contribution) Clause 14(1) states that the,"““application for the provision of information to that person is made ...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 676 c1005-6 (Link to this contribution) That is not an answer to my question, because I asked about that paragraph. I do not want to have to...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1005 (Link to this contribution) An individual has a right to see anything and everything that they are permitted to see as a result ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1005 (Link to this contribution) Certainly, I do not mind, but I do not agree with the noble Lord. In part, the answer is contrary to...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1004-5 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to Members of the Committee who have contributed to this mini debate. It has been...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1000 (Link to this contribution) I stand before you, Trojan horse and all—and gift, as I understand it. I am told by my noble friend ...
Lord Lucas | 676 c1002-3 (Link to this contribution) After that explanation I remain puzzled about one or two things. I have been searching in vain in th...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1002 (Link to this contribution) One has to bear in mind that the individual or agency asking for information will only receive the i...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1003 (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether the noble Baroness would like to respond to those questions before I say my la...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 676 c1003 (Link to this contribution) I follow the noble Lord, because I was going to ask that same question. Clause 14, on the provision ...
Earl of Onslow | 676 c1001 (Link to this contribution) Is the noble Baroness saying that this will show if somebody unauthorised has asked for information?...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1000-1 (Link to this contribution) I think that it is an external characteristic which can be observed by the eye. This provision is t...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 676 c1002 (Link to this contribution) I appreciate that. I am not thinking of the barrack-room lawyer who wants to find out what has been ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1001-2 (Link to this contribution) It enables you to check who has asked for information and who has given information about you. So wh...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 676 c1006 (Link to this contribution) In case the noble Baroness is under a misapprehension following that answer, of course, under Clause...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1006 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I can help my noble friend. Clause 14 deals with,"““Provision of information for verificatio...
Lord Peyton of Yeovil | 676 c1007 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 97A:"Page 4, line 27, leave out paragraph (a)." The noble Lord said: Amendment ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1006-7 (Link to this contribution) My only additional point is that later amendments deal explicitly with the right of an individual to...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c972-3 (Link to this contribution) As the mover of the amendment has said, we had a long and at times amusing debate on this on the pre...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c973-4 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord, Lord Selsdon, for his earlier letter. So intricate were the issues raised th...
Countess of Mar | 676 c973 (Link to this contribution) I will not go into a long discussion about names, but I am half-wondering what will happen if you do...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c974 (Link to this contribution) I think that the letter was both posted and e-mailed, but I am more than happy to ask my officials t...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c974 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness referred to a 30-page letter which elucidates some of the knotty problems we are ...
Lord Selsdon | 676 c974-5 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the Minister. I give her warning that my supplementary amendment at the very e...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c974 (Link to this contribution) There has been no difficulty in reconciling the registration of the names that we have on the births...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 676 c974 (Link to this contribution) That was a very interesting reply. Does the Minister’s department intend to carry over the decision ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c974 (Link to this contribution) The identity card will be available for those who wish to travel in Europe. One will not need a pass...
Lord Peyton of Yeovil | 676 c974 (Link to this contribution) I am slightly confused—I am sure it is my fault—and I wonder whether the noble Baroness can clarify ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c981 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord for that. I also thank those officials who have worked so hard on these docum...
Earl of Onslow | 676 c981 (Link to this contribution) I suggest to your Lordships that if we did have 10 minutes off it would probably save considerably m...
Lord Williams of Elvel | 676 c981-2 (Link to this contribution) I got a copy of the letter sent by the noble Baroness, and she has done everything possible to illum...
Earl of Northesk | 676 c982 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to all noble Lords who have taken part in the debate. It is perhaps inevitable that it...
Earl of Northesk | 676 c982-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 90:"Page 40, line 19, leave out paragraph (c)." The noble Earl said: In moving ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c980 (Link to this contribution) I understand the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Crickhowell. The Committee will have seen that t...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c980-1 (Link to this contribution) I am trying to help the Committee and the noble Baroness. This is a long, detailed, carefully consid...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c981 (Link to this contribution) I am very sympathetic to the noble Lord, but I hope that the further information arises out of the i...
Lord Selsdon | 676 c981 (Link to this contribution) I want to try to help the noble Baroness, as I always have done on this. I commend to the Committee ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c978 (Link to this contribution) No, I mean Clause 1(7)(e), which refers to physical characteristics.
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c978 (Link to this contribution) I regret to tell the Committee that I have an old copy of the Bill—I do not know how it got in there...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c978 (Link to this contribution) If the Minister is inclined to be sympathetic towards this group of amendments, will she also be inc...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c978 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord referred to Clause 1(7). Does he mean Clause 1(6)(e)?
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c978 (Link to this contribution) But we have had this copy for the past two months.
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c978-80 (Link to this contribution) That is why I cannot understand how it got in there. It was not there on Friday. I will deal with s...
Lord Selsdon | 676 c977 (Link to this contribution) I refer the Minister to the response to a Question for a Written Answer on 16 March 2005, at col. 31...
Lord Crickhowell | 676 c977-8 (Link to this contribution) The Minister will probably say that the Government are aiming to work on a combination of different ...
Earl of Northesk | 676 c975-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 86:"Page 40, line 17, after ““a”” insert ““full-face””" The noble Earl said: Ta...
Baroness Seccombe | 676 c976-7 (Link to this contribution) As my noble friend Lord Northesk highlighted, the term ““head”” does not constitute ““face””. It cou...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c990-1 (Link to this contribution) All noble Lords present would say that we never expect the noble Baroness to mislead the House becau...
Lord Selsdon | 676 c991-2 (Link to this contribution) This business of the numbers game worries me, particularly as it took so long for the Minister to re...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c992-4 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure that I shall be able to answer all the noble Lord’s questions, but I hope that I can r...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c988-9 (Link to this contribution) I will certainly look at it, but I do not think that it is a difficulty. I am relatively sure that p...
Earl of Northesk | 676 c989 (Link to this contribution) Once again I am grateful to all noble Lords who have contributed. As with my previous amendment, it ...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c989-90 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 92:"Page 40, line 30, at end insert ““and his ID card number, which shall be the...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c990 (Link to this contribution) I need to clarify something I said earlier. I had asked for the letter to be e-mailed and sent. I un...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c988 (Link to this contribution) My concern is that Clause 1(7)(e), which deals with physical characteristics, is unqualified by refe...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c988 (Link to this contribution) I do not think one could, because Clause 43(1), which gives the definition of biometric information,...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c988 (Link to this contribution) That does not meet my concern because Clause 43 deals with the definition of biometric information a...
Lord Peyton of Yeovil | 676 c986-7 (Link to this contribution) I want to return briefly to fingerprints. The sound of the word ““fingerprints”” produces an unpleas...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c987-8 (Link to this contribution) I can reassure the noble Lord, Lord Peyton, that we have good grounds for including it. The whole po...
Lord Selsdon | 676 c985 (Link to this contribution) I have nothing at all against fingerprints. In fact I keep a set of my own, so that if there were an...
Earl of Onslow | 676 c984-5 (Link to this contribution) I shall hold the noble Baroness to that promise. Paragraph (c) shows a deep failing in the Governmen...
Countess of Mar | 676 c985 (Link to this contribution) I, too, support the noble Earl, Lord Northesk, and the noble Baroness, Lady Seccombe, in their amend...
Earl of Onslow | 676 c984 (Link to this contribution) This shows something unhealthy about the Government’s attitude to individual liberty. It does not se...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c984 (Link to this contribution) No; I have a wonderful capacity to listen with one ear while speaking, particularly when it is a mat...
Lord Brabazon of Tara | 676 c983 (Link to this contribution) I should point out that if this amendment is agreed to, I shall not be able to call Amendment No. 90...
Baroness Seccombe | 676 c983-4 (Link to this contribution) I welcome this group of amendments as it enables us to discuss the ins and outs of fingerprinting an...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c972 (Link to this contribution) I support my noble friend. He referred to our previous debate on this issue on 23 November on an ame...
Lord Selsdon | 676 c971-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 80B:"Page 40, line 6, at end insert ““as recorded in his passport, or in the for...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1007-8 (Link to this contribution) Amendments Nos. 98 and 102A, in my name, are grouped with this amendment. I agree entirely with what...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1008 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Anelay, and the noble Lord, Lord Peyton, for moving these probing a...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1008 (Link to this contribution) I do not contend against the noble Baroness on that. My argument throughout has been that the Govern...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1008-9 (Link to this contribution) I understand what the noble Baroness says. However, in a system that has been designed from the outs...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1009 (Link to this contribution) Having listened to the Minister’s response, it may be helpful if I say that I have my own reasons fo...
Lord Peyton of Yeovil | 676 c1009 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister, but I am not quite sure what I am grateful for. I did not intend to p...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1027-8 (Link to this contribution) I will not answer the amendment, but in relation to the letter, we had hoped that it would go out on...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 676 c1028 (Link to this contribution) Since the noble Lord refers to me specifically, can we agree on something? Can we agree that every c...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1028 (Link to this contribution) I have listened with great care to the debate and a number of useful issues have been raised as a re...
Lord Crickhowell | 676 c1029-30 (Link to this contribution) I had an opportunity of reading the letter that was circulated to us, which specifically says that t...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1028-9 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that we can agree on that. Clearly, an individual would not be called for an intervie...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1030 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for giving way, but can I put him right? He talked of the amendments r...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1030 (Link to this contribution) We are developing our cost models in this process as we work through it, which is why I made the ref...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1030-1 (Link to this contribution) I appreciate that in the noble Lord’s mind there may not be much difference between us. However, we ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1031 (Link to this contribution) I am reluctant to give way. I have made the point before, but it is an important one. If we had an e...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1031 (Link to this contribution) Experience in public service provision shows that people prefer an appointment system so that they c...
Lord Crickhowell | 676 c1031 (Link to this contribution) I have listened carefully to what the Minister has said. Of course, I agree that there must be place...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 676 c1033 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the noble Lord can help me. I live in Wales at the moment. If I am thinking of being a terro...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1031-3 (Link to this contribution) I have no intention of doing that. They provide the service exactly as the noble Lord describes, whi...
Lord Crickhowell | 676 c1031 (Link to this contribution) That is exactly the point. I ring up my surgery and say, ““I am very unwell—can you see me this afte...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1033-4 (Link to this contribution) This is a debate that we have on a lot of legislation, is it not? On very many occasions I have hear...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1033 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to interrupt again, and I am grateful to the Minister, but I am trying to avoid a vote. T...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1033 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord tries to make the Bill ridiculous by using what I think is a rather fatuous case. He ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1035 (Link to this contribution) ““The amendment of the noble Baroness, Lady Anelay””; that is what I wanted to say. If that amendmen...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1035 (Link to this contribution) I hope that I made it clear to the Minister that I saw my amendment as merely probing. It has been o...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1035 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is right—as this debate has gone on, he has begun to realise that the gap is small. B...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1035 (Link to this contribution) I accept it. I have already said to the Minister that he is entitled to have a system such as the Go...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1034 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Lord, Lord Phillips, presses me on this, I am certainly happy to give further thoug...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1034 (Link to this contribution) I invite the noble Lord to think about this a bit. Amendment No. 109 in particular—and I think this ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1034 (Link to this contribution) The point that I was going to make is a fundamental issue. There is a big penalty in the event of a ...
Lord Monson | 676 c1035-6 (Link to this contribution) I take it that the Minister is not replying to that point. Would it not save a great deal of time an...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1036 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to respond to the point made by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mayhew. I shall study wh...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1037 (Link to this contribution) I will not go so far as the second of the two alternatives that the noble Baroness invited me to agr...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1037 (Link to this contribution) Because I am trying to avoid red herrings, will the Minister clarify the commitment that he gave to ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1037 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord knows that civil penalties are imposed all the time and the circumstances he describe...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 676 c1036-7 (Link to this contribution) It should be clear that if you fail to tell the authorities that you have got married, the bailiffs ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1036 (Link to this contribution) I have been at pains to explain that the detail needs to be set out in secondary legislation. That i...
Lord Mayhew of Twysden | 676 c1036 (Link to this contribution) I am quite well aware of that—it is to be found in Clause 43. But the point about it is that regulat...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1036 (Link to this contribution) Ultimately, as with anti-social behaviour orders, which go through a civil process, or if someone de...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 676 c1036 (Link to this contribution) Will the noble Lord explain, so that we have it on record, exactly what the civil penalty is, how it...
Earl of Northesk | 676 c1038 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 106:"Page 5, line 19, after ““attend”” insert ““at his convenience””" The noble...
Earl of Northesk | 676 c1037-8 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to all noble Lords who have contributed to this debate, which has ended up lasting rat...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1011-3 (Link to this contribution) Amendments Nos. 101 and 102 seek to remove the link; I understand that. Amendments Nos. 148 and 150 ...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 676 c1013 (Link to this contribution) Would it not be more honest of the Government to stop talking about the scheme being voluntary at th...
Lord Peyton of Yeovil | 676 c1010 (Link to this contribution) I think we have now abolished dog licences, but I take the point that the noble Lord has raised. I d...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1010-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 101:"Page 4, line 35, at end insert—" ““(   )   No United Kingdom citizen may ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1014-5 (Link to this contribution) I oppose the Question that Clause 4 stand part of the Bill. I do not intend to speak at length, but ...
Lord Peyton of Yeovil | 676 c1015 (Link to this contribution) Briefly, I say again that I find the vagueness of the clause unacceptable. It begins with the words:...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1013 (Link to this contribution) I hear what the noble Baroness says, but at the moment if one has a passport, or has only recently o...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1013-4 (Link to this contribution) Until my noble friend Lady Carnegy’s intervention, I was going to be a lot kinder in my response tha...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1009-10 (Link to this contribution) I apologise if the noble Lord does not feel that I did justice to his amendment, because I am anxiou...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1010 (Link to this contribution) Although not vague, Clause 4(2) covers a wide range of bodies. I believe I am right in thinking that...
Lord Crickhowell | 676 c1021-2 (Link to this contribution) As I said, I may be wrong about the number. The Minister may leap to his feet and say that I have go...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1022-3 (Link to this contribution) I have three amendments in this group—Amendment No. 108, Amendment No. 155, which deals with the sam...
Earl of Onslow | 676 c1023 (Link to this contribution) It is made worse by the fact that it will be a civil penalty. Presumably the burden of proof will be...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1017-8 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Baroness. I am mildly pleased that the Government will consider the recom...
Earl of Northesk | 676 c1018-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 105:"Page 5, line 19, leave out paragraph (a)." The noble Earl said: In moving ...
Lord Crickhowell | 676 c1019-21 (Link to this contribution) This is an important group of amendments. I have added my name to Amendments Nos. 105 and 106, and t...
Earl of Onslow | 676 c1021 (Link to this contribution) If, as my noble friend has pointed out, there are to be only 70 registration centres and the populat...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1015-6 (Link to this contribution) My name has been joined with that of the noble Lord, Lord Phillips of Sudbury, in raising a debate o...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1016-7 (Link to this contribution) I reassure the noble Lord, Lord Peyton of Yeovil, that this is a Home Office Bill. I know that he al...
Earl of Onslow | 676 c1017 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness gave a wonderful Freudian slip. She listed a number of documents and said, ““We h...
Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 676 c1026-7 (Link to this contribution) When this Bill breathed its first, I decided to regard it with an open mind and see what was propose...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1027 (Link to this contribution) I agree with all that has been said by noble Lords. I have a modest amendment to which I will speak ...
Lord Hylton | 676 c1025 (Link to this contribution) What the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford, said prompts me to ask whether the Government have con...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 676 c1025-6 (Link to this contribution) The great irony of the Bill is that it has been brought forward by a Labour Government. I have said ...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 676 c1024 (Link to this contribution) Let us not think of this as a one-off application. Clause 12 states that if there is a change of cir...
Lord Crickhowell | 676 c1023-4 (Link to this contribution) I thank my noble friend for giving way. She is wrong on one point: that there will be only 20 per ce...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 676 c1024 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend is absolutely right. At least then people will want to get a passport, I take it—unl...
Lord Monson | 676 c1023 (Link to this contribution) I have not taken much part in our deliberations on the Bill so far, mainly because the attacks mount...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 676 c1023 (Link to this contribution) This part of the Bill has to change. Again I draw the attention of the Committee to how the whole pr...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1039 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move that the House be resumed. In moving this Motion, I suggest that the Committee stage b...
Lord Crickhowell | 676 c980 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness, as usual, gave a very helpful reply and there may be even more detail in the len...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c985-6 (Link to this contribution) Mine is the final amendment in the group and concerns biometric information. I confess that I have a...
Lord Mayhew of Twysden | 676 c1035 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is beginning to move, as he so often does in the face of reasoned and persuasive argume...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c994 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for answering fully those questions avoided by Mr McNulty in another p...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1006 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord knows well that the reason I couched my answer in that way is that all rights are con...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 676 c1005 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful that the noble Baroness directly drew my attention to that. Will she, therefore, confi...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c971 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that the House do now again resolve itself into Committee on this Bill. Mov...
Earl of Erroll | 676 c1025 (Link to this contribution) I agree with pretty well everything that has been said. I suspect that people will not be called in ...
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