European Union (Withdrawal) Bill

Before the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope, proceeds, it may be of benefit to the House if I no...

Since he has started speaking, would it not be better for the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope, ...

The noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope, has not yet moved the amendment so he needs to do that fir...

I am very grateful to the Minister for his intervention and for the indication that he has given....

Moved by

Baroness Suttie

91: Clause 7, at end insert—

“( ) modify the Northern ...

My Lords, in moving Amendment 91, I shall speak to Amendments 131 and 149 in my name. The noble a...

My Lords, the Minister unusually intervened at the beginning of the speech of the noble and learn...

My Lords, I am most grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. I thought I was explicit that my r...

My Lords, what does the noble Lord mean by “moved significantly”? For those of us not initiated i...

I seek to indicate that I can confirm that the Government will bring forward amendments on Report...

On that point, could the noble Lord confirm that the amendments to be brought forward by the Gove...

My Lords, I certainly can confirm that but I was going to confirm it, as it were, right at the en...

My Lords, I wish to speak to Amendments 92 and 93 standing in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Fo...

My Lords, I support the amendments in the name of the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope, and I am...

My Lords, I have added my name to Amendments 90, 130 and 148. I am most grateful to my noble and ...

My Lords, I support Amendment 130, to which I have added my name, and will satisfy the Committee’...

My understanding is that the government amendment to Clause 11, which we will come to in due cour...

I am most grateful to the noble Lord. Perhaps it is my fault but I have not been able to access a...

My Lords, this Bill gives UK Ministers powers to make statutory instruments that would include th...

My Lords, my intervention will be extremely brief. I was entirely persuaded by what the noble and...

My Lords, before we whip ourselves into a lather of outrage at the prospect of doing something wi...

I am most grateful to the noble Lord. In Clause 7(7), which deals with Northern Ireland, there is...

I think that we have to be careful because this is complicated. It is obvious that the devolution...

We will be debating Northern Ireland at greater length later. The Minister said in response to my...

My Lords, I speak in support of the amendments tabled by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope of...

Will the noble and learned Lord elaborate on his suggestion for how a middle way could be establi...

My Lords, taking that second point, as I indicated earlier, the absence of the Northern Ireland A...

On the subject of trust, the noble and learned Lord mentioned the Edinburgh agreement, which the ...

My Lords, I accept that, with regard to “once in a generation”, the Scottish National Party is gu...

My Lords, the amendments introduced by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope, might be perfectly ...

The contributions already made make it perfectly clear how fragile and in many respects how insub...

The noble Lord may recall that during the passage of the last Scotland Act there was great debate...

One is greatly tempted to look at this situation beyond the Tweed, as it were—but I will abjure t...

My Lords, I am at a loss to know quite how we have got where we have. The labyrinthine discussion...

My Lords, I am very grateful to noble Lords who have participated in this very wide-ranging debat...

I do not know whether my noble friend reads the Scottish papers. If he does, he will have seen th...

My Lords, I do not recognise the power-grab allegation as being anywhere near reality. We are mak...

Before the Minister moves on, we are aware of his good intentions in this, his experience and his...

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord. It certainly is my view that we want to get agreement—...

It is my understanding that the concept behind the phrase “Westminster will not normally legislat...

My Lords, the noble Baroness, with her normal quicksilver mind, has darted ahead to the bit of th...

The Minister speaks as though the Clause 8 and Clause 9 powers are basically the same. They are n...

My Lords, I accept that they are not the same thing. Perhaps by definition, Clause 9 relates to t...

I believe the amendment under debate is that of the noble Baroness, Lady Suttie.

I thank the Minister for his characteristically detailed and courteous response. We look forward ...

My Lords, I moved my amendment some time ago—at least I believe I did. I am very grateful to all ...

Moved by

Lord Hope of Craighead

102: Clause 7, page 6, line 25, at end insert—

...

My Lords, I am afraid that I have to introduce this group, and I hope to be able to do so fairly ...

Moved by

Baroness Suttie

103: Clause 7, at end insert—

“( ) The consent of the ...

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 103 and 125, which are tabled in my name. I shall be extreme...

Does the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope, think that it would be possible to deal with his poin...

My Lords, I can see the force of that, but I do not know whether that option is available in the ...

My Lords, late at night on 21 July 1998, I was sitting where the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mor...

The word “normally” was certainly not off the cuff. If the noble Lord looks back at the lengthy d...

I think that the noble Lord misses the point. I am saying that that was where the word “normally”...

My Lords, I want to follow on from what the noble Lord said. I am not going to talk about Wales, ...

My noble friend has given an interesting speech but it does not appear to bear any relation to th...

If the noble Baroness would like me to repeat my speech when she is listening, I will happily do ...

My Lords, I hope that the speech made by the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, will be reported loudly an...

I said no such thing. I said that the single market, which is the European market, is a quarter o...

It may well be, but the European single market includes England at this point in time. In other w...

My Lords, I am a signatory to two of the amendments in the name of my noble and learned friend Lo...

I wonder if I can be my usual emollient self at this point. I admit to being of Welsh extraction ...

My Lords, as a co-signatory to the amendment, I shall briefly make three points. My first is to c...

I share the admiration of the noble Lord, Lord Deben, for the way in which the Minister summed up...

My Lords, I had no intention to speak, but having added my name to Amendment 124, I want entirely...

I thank noble Lords who have participated in the debate on this group of amendments, particularly...

My Lords, I join in the general compliments to the Minister and thank him very much for his court...

My Lords, since that amendment has been withdrawn I am now in a position to withdraw Amendment 10...

Moved by

Lord Berkeley

104: Clause 7, page 6, line 25, at end insert—

“( ) No r...

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 231. This group of amendments is completely different f...

My Lords, the logistics industry permeates all our lives. It dominates retailing and allows most ...

My Lords, I put my name to both the amendments and I would like to build on what the noble Lords,...

Oh!

If noble Lords do not like facing reality, they can cheer, but I am talking about this reality as...

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, raised a very important point about freight transport cr...

I have not spoken on this Bill at all yet. I have made a point of not speaking because I understa...

My intervention at this stage will be extraordinarily brief. What I say about Amendment 104 also ...

My Lords, given transport’s essential role in supporting the UK economy, transport issues should ...

I am grateful to my noble friend for mentioning me, but why do they have to face barriers?

If we are not in the single market as well as the customs union, there must be checks at the bord...

My Lords, I had not intended to speak in this debate and I have sat patiently all day listening t...

My Lords, I take debates in this House seriously. I felt that the arguments presented by the nobl...

I understand the noble Lord’s explanation, and I will not speak for 11 minutes. However, I will s...

My Lords, it may be convenient for the Committee for me to set out the Opposition’s view—

My Lords—

The noble Lord may speak after me, and as many times as he likes, but—

Not on this amendment, because these points have not been covered. This is Committee, and we have...

Those who are familiar with the rules will know that as many Lords as they like can speak after m...

My Lords—

My Lords—

My Lords, I am sorry but I intend to speak.

We have spent 45 minutes discussing the issues.

I have not intervened at any stage in this debate.

I have spoken for a total of three minutes on this Bill. I think we have a right to be heard.

The point I wish to make, if I may, is that Amendment 104 is very significant for Wales because o...

My Lords, these amendments are designed to concentrate the Government’s mind and to get some answ...

Before the Minister responds, I want to spend a couple of minutes on a highly relevant issue that...

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, for this debate on Amendments 104 and 231, which raise the...

I asked four questions on trusted trader status. When will I get my answers?

I will read Hansard and respond to the noble Lord in writing.

The Minister did not answer any of the points that I made about what level of contact the Governm...

We are having extensive discussions with our partners in Europe. We are also having extensive dis...

If Brussels can produce a proposal, why cannot the British Government produce an alternative prop...

As the noble Lord pointed out, we did produce a customs paper last year. In her speech last week,...

Of course I have read the Prime Minister’s speech. What do you take me for? I follow these things...

I would be delighted to write to the noble Lord.

My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken in this interesting debate. It has bee...

Moved by

Lord Berkeley

105: Clause 7, page 6, line 25, at end insert—

“( ) No r...

My Lords, I shall be brief on this amendment because the Minister has almost answered some of the...

My Lords, I added my name to the amendment to note that rail contributes £85 billion of extra eco...

My Lords, I am again grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, for bringing this important matte...

I am grateful to the Minister for that reply. It is not news to me, because, obviously, I am awar...

My noble friend Lady Sugg will be happy to discuss that with the noble Lord.

I am grateful to the Minister. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Moved by

Lord Berkeley

106: Clause 7, page 6, line 25, at end insert—

“( ) No r...

My Lords, this the last of my three amendments and it is to do with aviation. Aviation has so far...

My Lords, I first raised this issue in the autumn of 2016 and have done so repeatedly since then,...

My Lords, I shall make a brief intervention and ask a couple of questions. I realise that it is t...

My Lords, I have put my name to these amendments. It should be emphasised that the European commo...

I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Bilimoria, once again on an excellent speech raising many ser...

My Lords, I shall make a brief broader point. For all the reasons we heard from the noble Barones...

Was it not the EU that said that nothing was agreed until everything was agreed?

It was both the EU and Mr Davis and they were both wrong because in all negotiations whenever you...

My Lords, I shall be brief. I spent 22 years in the airline industry from the mid-1960s onwards a...

I rise briefly to explain why I have added my name to these important amendments. One thing that ...

My Lords, to start with, I apologise to the noble Lord, Lord Tunnicliffe, as we are more than hap...

I thank the Minister for giving way. I just want to clarify that he is accepting that by remainin...

I will repeat the words that I used, for the noble Lord’s benefit:

“The Prime Minister … ac...

My Lords, what about the point about the affirmative procedure?

I took on board the noble Lord’s question but I am unable to give him those reassurances at the m...

I am grateful to the Minister for his reply and to all noble Lords who have spoken in this excell...

Moved by

Viscount Hailsham

109: Clause 7, page 6, line 27, at end insert “or which ha...

My Lords, I shall speak briefly to the three amendments in my name, Amendments 109, 134 and 188. ...

My Lords, I have Amendments 111, 137 and 192 in this group and share the unhappiness that has jus...

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 227A in my name, which is also supported by the noble Lords,...

My Lords, I am delighted to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Young, whose name stands at the head ...

I rise to speak to Amendments 249, 250 and 251. Several noble Lords will know of my lifelong conc...

Noble Lords will be glad to hear that I will be brief. The European Union Select Committee and EU...

When I speak at this time of night, I often recall the words of a friend who said to me shortly a...

My Lords, this is a wide-ranging group of amendments. I will begin with my noble friend Lord Hail...

I am not sure that the evidence stacks up on that. I have been seeking clarification from Defra f...

My Lords, I too asked for a list of necessary statutory instruments from the Home Office, and the...

I say to the noble Baroness, Lady Young of Old Scone, that it is a pleasure to be asked to do the...

Before the noble Baroness moves on to the other amendments, is she able to expand a little on the...

That may be part of what is involved but the other part might, as emerged in earlier discussions ...

Can the noble Baroness give us an example of where that might conflict with the negotiations? Som...

Given the breadth of activity already referred to by both the noble Baronesses, Lady Young of Old...

I share my noble friend’s perplexity. We are talking about a government commitment, in my field o...

I merely observe that the breadth of activity implicit within the negotiations could anticipate i...

My Lords, the whole House is perplexed. Maybe we are perplexed because we are very tired, but mig...

It is not meant to be a Sir Humphrey excuse; it is meant to be an attempt to anticipate what is f...

Oh!

We do not do “scohnes” in Scotland.

The difficulty with the noble Baroness’s amendment is t...

My Lords, on the code of practice that is the subject of the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Ad...

There was a universal welcome for the Government adopting as their principles much of what was pr...

I suggested listing the drafts for consultation.

People are bellowing “End!” in my right ear and I know which side my bread is buttered on.

...

My Lords, this group of amendments has enabled the Committee to identify matters of considerable ...

Moved by

Lord Lisvane

110: Clause 7, page 6, line 27, at end insert—

“( ) Where...

My Lords, in moving Amendment 110 I shall speak also to Amendment 135, both of which are also tab...

My Lords, if we reflect on the words used by my noble friend Lord Lisvane, it is really rather ch...

My Lords, I have little to add but I have tabled Amendments 350 and 351 in this group. I should l...

My Lords, I know that concerns regarding the delegation of legislative power, particularly where ...

Perhaps the Minister could help me with a clarification. As I understand it, the FCA and others h...

I am not sure that the powers originated in a democratic framework; a lot of them came from EU le...

My Lords—

Let me make some further progress and see whether it responds to the noble Baroness’s questions.<...

It sounds as though what the Minster is reading out dates from before today’s debate on fees and ...

We said that we would return to this matter on Report, but we are now talking about the sub-deleg...

My Lords, I am extremely grateful to the Minister for the detail he went into in his reply, parti...

Moved by

Lord Whitty

115: After Clause 7, insert the following new Clause—

“Che...

My Lords, in moving Amendment 115 I will also support Amendment 172, which is about the European ...

Just when noble Lords thought it could not get any better, they have double chemistry to look for...

My Lords, I will speak briefly to support the amendments. As chief executive of the Environment A...

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, and, in his absence, the noble Lord, Lord Adonis, ...

That is very clear, and I thank the Minister for what she has said so far. What is not clear to m...

I can only repeat the Prime Minister’s stated intention in her speech, and that is specifically t...

I thank the Minister for that reply, and I thank my noble friend Lady Young and the noble Lord, L...

Moved by

Lord Carrington of Fulham

115A: After Clause 7, insert the following new Cla...

My Lords, I am conscious of the hour and shall try to be as brief as I can with what I am sorry t...

My Lords, my name is attached to the amendment but I will, indeed, be brief. The noble Lord, Lord...

My Lords, I listened with interest to the amendment proposed by my noble friend Lord Carrington o...

My Lords, the noble Viscount, Lord Trenchard, speaks a commonly held Brexiteer view. I take a ver...

My Lords, we are very grateful to my noble friend for raising a very important issue. I know that...

My Lords, I do not think that anyone who has read the excellent December 2016 report Brexit: Fina...

My Lords, I first thank my noble friend Lord Carrington for his amendment, which has enabled us t...

My Lords, I am most grateful to all noble Lords who have participated in this debate. We have had...

Before we dispense with the amendment I have a brief question for the Minister. If I have underst...

I think I mean both. We will update the House on the position at the end of the negotiations on t...

My Lords, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Moved by

Lord Collins of Highbury

121: Clause 8, page 6, line 37, at end insert “, su...

My Lords, I start by thanking the Chief Whip for ensuring that so many noble Lords are in their p...

My Lords, Amendment 138 is in my name. I will concentrate simply on the international treaties an...

My Lords, it is quite important that the number of occasions on which this power will be used wil...

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Collins, and the noble Baroness, Lady Randerson, for their...

I thank the Minister for that explanation, but I fear that we will need to return to this issue. ...

I cannot call Amendment 125, as it is an amendment to Amendment 124.

I cannot call Amendment 131, as it is an amendment to Amendment 130.