European Union (Withdrawal) Bill
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Moved by
Lord Patel
84: Clause 7, page 6, line 13, at end insert—
“( ) No regul...
My Lords, Amendment 84 in my name and those of the noble Baronesses, Lady Thornton and Lady Jolly...
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My Lords, my noble friend Lady Jolly has added her name to this amendment, but unfortunately she ...
My Lords, I have added my name to this amendment. Unlike many amendments to the Bill, this one re...
My Lords, I support the noble Lord, Lord Patel, on his amendment. As we have heard, the proposed ...
My Lords, as a former pharmaceutical and life sciences Minister, I rise to support the modest ame...
My Lords, I am not an expert in clinical trials but there are remarkable similarities between the...
My Lords, I support the amendment because I think it is very important after all the points that ...
My Lords, much has been said in support of the amendment. I do not see how the Government can arg...
My Lords, I entirely support the main thrust of the amendment in the sense of seeking, if at all ...
I will add a brief note of agreement with the amendment, for the obvious reason that this country...
My Lords, I have a tentative question. If it is true that we do not trust our own legal environme...
This benefits all patient populations, and is particularly important for paediatric and rare canc...
Given the noble Baroness’s expertise on this issue, I wish to ask her a question. As I understand...
I absolutely agree with the noble Baroness. In fact, several noble Lords who are much more expert...
My Lords, when she replies, will the Minister comment on the remarks of her noble and learned fri...
My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Patel, for raising this extremely important ...
Can I ask for clarification on the subject which we discuss fairly frequently in this House: the ...
I thank the noble Lord for his intervention. This is an area where a dispute resolution procedure...
Could the noble Baroness answer the question that was posed by the noble Baroness, Lady Ludford, ...
With respect, I am not sure that I entirely agree with the noble Lord. I am coming to the points ...
Will the Government therefore consider amending the Bill to allow that to happen?
At this point, we are not entirely in control of matters regarding the future. I know that it is ...
I am not an expert in any of these matters, but it is a bit of a puzzle. Why would we want to bri...
I am referring there to the old regulations. The new regulations would provide for a better regim...
I thank my noble friend for his intervention. I was about to say that the existing UK legislation...
I thank the Minister for letting me ask her a question. First, how will that operate if we contin...
Taking the last point first, I will need to check that out in Hansard because I do not recall in ...
With all respect to the noble Lord, Lord Warner, I will come back to him but I am trying to deal ...
I think the noble Baroness might want to have a conversation with the noble Lord sitting on her l...
I think these businesses understand the very real and practical challenges that confront the Gove...
I am increasingly puzzled by this conversation. If you are doing a clinical trial, you have to ha...
I am not in any way diminishing the important point that the noble Lord makes. I am pointing out ...
My Lords, it was not my intention to intervene. I am sorry to do so but it has been forced upon m...
The problem is that the Bill is intended to transfer a body of law from A to B. At the moment, th...
I wonder whether the noble Baroness will take this slightly different point. If, as is argued, th...
I partly agree with what the noble Lord is saying because if this regulation has not become law b...
Does not the Minister consider there to be a substantial risk? As I understand it, non-member sta...
My noble friend Lord O’Shaughnessy, who is advising me, says that once there is a new regime in E...
I have already written to the Minister asking for a meeting to discuss this issue and have copied...
I am happy, as are my colleagues, to engage in and attend meetings and to listen to the views exp...
Can the noble Baroness clarify her constant references to Clause 7? As I understand the clause, i...
Clause 7 is designed to address identified deficiencies post Brexit where our existing clinical t...
My Lords, I do not think that I am the only Member of the Committee who is listening with increas...
With the greatest respect to my noble friend, it is a matter for the negotiations. We cannot rema...
My Lords, perhaps I may make what I hope is a helpful suggestion. This is not a unique regulation...
Perhaps I may draw the noble Baroness’s attention to Clause 3(3)(a):
“For the purposes of t...
I am looking at the provision and my understanding is that technically, the character of the regu...
Forgive me, but according to Article 90-something of the regulation, it came into force 20 days a...
I am certainly interested in the point that the noble Baroness raises. I suspect that we have pro...
We have established in this debate and in the earlier debates on Amendments 18 and 81 that precis...
If Clause 3(3) will not do the trick, will the Minister please take advice about whether we need ...
I ask the Minister merely to consider it; that way, we might have a solution.
I must apologise to the noble and learned Lord; the Chief Whip sat down and bumped into me, so I ...
My Lords, it is difficult for me to sum up. The message is quite clear to me, although that might...
As a result of this debate, could the noble Lord consider the possibility that he, I and the othe...
I thank the noble Lord. That is why I hope the meeting will help the noble and learned Lord, Lord...
Moved by
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town
86: Clause 7, page 6, line 15, at end insert...
My Lords, I shall speak sparingly to this amendment and others in this group given the expertise ...
My Lords, I regret that I was unable to attend all of Wednesday’s Committee stage, thereby missin...
Will the noble Lord help this Committee as to the distinction in law between a fee and a charge? ...
I am about to get to that. There are other fees and charges which, as a matter of policy, raise m...
What about fees and charges? Are they the same?
If something generates a surplus, it is equivalent to a tax and should be covered by the same leg...
My Lords, I have put my name to Amendments 86 and 127. I will be very brief because the noble Lor...
The community charge was clearly a tax and not a fee.
The noble Viscount gives a superb example. We can think of parking charges and a whole wide varie...
My Lords, I support the amendments in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Hayter of Kentish Town...
My Lords, I am a co-signatory to Amendment 126, as the noble Lord, Lord Lisvane, said. I want to ...
With some timidity, may I offer a cruder and less specialised perspective, somewhat along the lin...
My Lords, I support the amendments in this group, most notably Amendment 86, the lead amendment. ...
I do not think I was making a distinction between fees and charges—they are just words. They broa...
I am very grateful to the noble Lord and I am sorry if I misunderstood him, but I understood that...
May I throw another word into this taxation Scrabble? What about the word “contribution”? Most of...
The point is a very sound one, though of course most of us no longer pay national insurance contr...
My noble friend Lord Forsyth was also guilty, I hasten to say; we were the same in that respect.<...
My Lords, I was once estimably advised by the noble Lord, Lord Turnbull. I want to look at this a...
I do not wish to prolong this but I have been reflecting on the definition by the noble Lord, Lor...
It seems to me that almost any circumstance does not fit this part of the Bill; indeed, I find it...
My Lords, I make two short suggestions. One is that all the words that we have heard today should...
My Lords, my noble friend Lord Deben, in his scintillating speech, referred to the power of arbit...
My noble friend mentioned VAT. Is that not an example of where Parliament no longer has the power...
Our leaving the European Union is an exceptionally unfortunate measure that will do great damage ...
My Lords, my name is to Amendment 126. I do not want to say very much. I can think of another wor...
The general principle referred to by the noble Lord, Lord Turnbull, which has been very clearly e...
My Lords, Amendments 86, 126, 127 and 155—in the name of the noble Baronesses, Lady Hayter and La...
Will my noble friend tell the Committee what, in his view, is the essential difference between a ...
If my noble friend will stay with me, I will come on to that. Beyond that specific issue, I will ...
There is a large number of fees that are paid to, for example, the Environment Agency, to carry o...
Before the Minister responds to that point, could he also answer my question? He has sought to ma...
I am sorry for my noble friend, but he did say that both the fees and the charges were subject to...
I do not have the specific clause in front of me, but I am sure that is the case and I will write...
That is a very interesting point. Would that be remediable if we were to stay within the European...
If we were part of the European Economic Area, I assume that we would not need to do that. Howeve...
The noble Lord makes some very good points about how we might need to levy charges or fees, or wh...
Because in such circumstances we will need to react quickly in the light of the events as they ha...
Whether it is expedient.
I did not want to use the word “expedient”, as it had been referred to.
What about “appropriate”?
It would be totally appropriate and, indeed, necessary to do so in the circumstances. We are in a...
There is a different eventuality using the same example that the noble Lord gave—namely, the even...
No, I am not suggesting that we might be in breach of our international obligations. However, as ...
My Lords, will the Minister take the message from this House that we are very happy to have this ...
I take on board the sincere nature of the noble Lord’s assurances on this matter.
Might my noble friend point out to the noble Lord that, if it is about taxation, that burden woul...
I assume that that was the noble Lord’s point.
My Lords, since we are discovering the enormous complexity of all this, on the previous amendment...
The noble Lord makes a good point. I was speaking to my noble friend Lady Goldie about the matter...
My Lords, I think it will be obvious why I spoke so briefly at the beginning of this debate, as I...
Moved by
Lord Judge
87: Clause 7, page 6, line 17, leave out “relevant”
My Lords, the amendments in this group go to a simple but crucial issue. The Bill proposes to giv...
My Lords, I had intended to stand up before the noble and learned Lord sat down to respond to his...
My Lords, in view of what my noble friend has said, I can be very brief. I support the first four...
My Lords, my name has been added to a number of the amendments in this group and I appreciate the...
My Lords, I want to add one short point to what has been said about sentences of imprisonment. It...
My Lords, I support what the noble Lord, Lord Carlile, has just said and ever so slightly disagre...
My Lords, I agree with what the noble Lord, Lord Cormack, has just said. As the noble and learned...
My Lords, in this context, I draw attention to the paragraphs in the Delegated Powers and Regulat...
My Lords, I am sorry that there are too many speakers from this part of the Chamber, but I should...
My Lords, because the case was made so clearly by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Judge, with th...
First, I thank the noble and learned Lord, Lord Judge, and my noble friend Lord Hailsham for brin...
I wonder if the Minister could help us. He seems to be arguing what might be a coherent case for ...
I understand the noble Lord’s concern, which comes on to the same point made by the noble Barones...
The noble Lord just used a different word—“widening”—but I think his earlier example was making a...
No, that is not what I meant.
It is therefore vital that the Bill can provide for “creating...
My Lords, I am troubled by just one observation made by the Minister. I think someone has been ad...
Moved by
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara
88: Clause 7, page 6, line 18, at end insert—
My Lords, in moving Amendment 88, which is in my name and those of the noble Lords, Lord Warner a...
My Lords, I have added my name to the amendments and agree entirely with what the noble Lord, Lor...
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Warner, and speak to Amendment 88 and t...
My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, for bringing before us what are undoubtedly ver...
My Lords, since we are in Committee I have a question for the Minister. She has said that there m...
I say to the noble Lord that a phrase I used last week was that we need the powers to be broad en...
Could the Minister say something about the points I made in drawing on the debate we had earlier ...
I say to the noble Lord that I am still recovering from the debate on Amendment 84. I listened ve...
My Lords, I thank the noble Lords, Lord Warner and Lord Clement-Jones, for their contributions. T...
I know that the noble Lord is coming back to an issue which was much discussed during the course ...
I am grateful to the noble Lord for his intervention, because it allows me to refer back to the r...