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Children and Families Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 25 February 2013, in the House of Commons, led by Jo Swinson and Edward Timpson. The answering members were Stephen Twigg and Lisa Nandy.
Agreed to on question. Programme motion agreed to on question. Queen's recommendation signified. Money resolution agreed to. Ways and Means resolution agreed to. Carry over motion agreed to.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

559 cc44-134 

Session

2012-13

Legislative stage

Second reading

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber
Pre-legislative scrutiny: Special educational needs. Education Committee sixth report, in three volumes, with written evidence and formal minutes.
Wednesday, 12 December 2012
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Pre-legislative scrutiny of the Children and Families Bill. Justice Committee fourth report with written evidence and formal minutes.
Wednesday, 12 December 2012
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Children and Families Bill 2012-13
Monday, 4 February 2013
Bills
House of Commons
Deposited Paper DEP2013-0803
Tuesday, 14 May 2013
Deposited papers
House of Commons

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Children and Families Bill
Friday, 15 February 2013
Research briefings

Proceeding contributions

Edward Timpson | 559 c45 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

The coalition Government are absolu...

Lord Bellingham | 559 c46 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that one concern expressed by many of our constituents is about the rig...


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Edward Timpson | 559 c46 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that intervention and I pay tribute to his work in opposition...

Bill Esterson | 559 c46 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister makes an important point about the role of the wider family in caring for vulnerable...

Edward Timpson | 559 c46 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. From his work and his personal experience of dealing with...

Robert Flello | 559 c46 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister will be aware of Scope’s campaign for children with disabilities. Will he be coming ...

Edward Timpson | 559 cc46-7 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has written to me about the campaign, as have many Members. As part of the pre...

David Burrowes | 559 c47 (Link to this contribution)

I recognise the importance of my hon. Friend’s commitment to taking account of the concerns of pa...

Edward Timpson | 559 c47 (Link to this contribution)

The story of my hon. Friend’s constituent is one that I have heard from many Members who have, in...

Kate Green | 559 c47 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way, and I compliment him on many of the measures in the...

Edward Timpson | 559 c48 (Link to this contribution)

I will come on to address those issues, but it is important to say at this juncture that we are n...

Robert Buckland | 559 c48 (Link to this contribution)

I commend my hon. Friend for the way he is presenting the Bill. Does he agree that this is not ju...

Edward Timpson | 559 c48 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend, who has on many occasions displayed his deep knowledge and under...

Edward Timpson | 559 cc48-9 (Link to this contribution)

I will make progress. I know that everyone is keen to get in, and many people have been sitting h...

John Hemming | 559 c49 (Link to this contribution)

I refer the House to my declaration of interest as chairman of the Justice for Families campaign....

Edward Timpson | 559 c49 (Link to this contribution)

I am very much aware of my hon. Friend’s views and have conversed with him on a number of occasio...

Alex Cunningham | 559 c49 (Link to this contribution)

Nobody would disagree that it is important that we reduce the time scale for children to be adopt...

Edward Timpson | 559 cc49-50 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman raises an extremely important point. We know that the level of adoption breakd...

Edward Timpson | 559 c50 (Link to this contribution)

Briefly. The hon. Gentleman has had one crack of the whip; I will give him one more.

Bill Esterson | 559 c50 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful. The Minister has made a good point about getting the balance right between speed o...

Edward Timpson | 559 c50 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Gentleman bears with me, I will come to that point in a moment, and I will address it...

Kerry McCarthy | 559 c50 (Link to this contribution)

I know that the Minister is very much aware of the issues facing kinship carers—in fact, I think ...

Edward Timpson | 559 cc51-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am aware of the issue the hon. Lady raises. I have just set out the principles that remain in p...

Graham Stuart | 559 c52 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister say something to reassure Barnardo’s and others that, given that 80% of current...

Edward Timpson | 559 c52 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend the Select Committee Chairman and I take his question in the spir...

Catherine McKinnell | 559 c52 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is being generous with his time and is setting out quite a compelling vision for the...

Edward Timpson | 559 c52 (Link to this contribution)

We have provided local authorities with £150 million to try to improve their adoption service. Th...

Charlie Elphicke | 559 c53 (Link to this contribution)

Is not the key issue the fact that although about 4,500 children are waiting to be adopted, poten...

Edward Timpson | 559 c53 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. That is why we are streamlining the assessment process for ad...

Paul Beresford | 559 c53 (Link to this contribution)

In response to the question by the hon. Member for Newcastle upon Tyne North (Catherine McKinnell...

Edward Timpson | 559 c53 (Link to this contribution)

One of the reasons we want to encourage local authorities, through this additional funding, to mo...

Lord Field of Birkenhead | 559 c53 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the Minister on the way in which he is commanding the House in presenting this Bil...

Edward Timpson | 559 cc53-5 (Link to this contribution)

We know from research done by Julie Selwyn at Bristol university that for every year a child is n...

John McDonnell | 559 c55 (Link to this contribution)

The role of mediation has been generally welcomed, but it will require mediators. At the moment, ...

Edward Timpson | 559 c55 (Link to this contribution)

The mediator will not be a court clerk or court officer. An independent mediator will be assigned...

Edward Timpson | 559 c55 (Link to this contribution)

I am conscious of the time and I still have a lot of material to get through, so I will take just...

Madeleine Moon | 559 c55 (Link to this contribution)

As a former child and family social worker, I value what the Minister is saying about the importa...

Geraint Davies | 559 c56 (Link to this contribution)

That is what I was going to say!

Edward Timpson | 559 c56 (Link to this contribution)

I will try to kill two birds with one stone, in that case. That is not a matter for this Bill and...

Lord Beith | 559 c56 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has made it clear on many occasions that the Bill is not intended or likely to lea...

Edward Timpson | 559 cc56-7 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend knows from his astute chairmanship of the Justice Committee that the intenti...

Mark Tami | 559 c57 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister may be aware that CLIC Sargent, the children’s cancer charity, has raised concerns a...

Edward Timpson | 559 cc57-8 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman raises an important issue, and I thank him for alerting me to it prior to the ...

Paul Maynard | 559 c58 (Link to this contribution)

What can the Minister say to reassure those who are concerned that children with a specific disab...

Edward Timpson | 559 cc58-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend, and I know from having paid a visit to his all-party group on yo...

Baroness Keeley | 559 c59 (Link to this contribution)

I want to express my profound disappointment that the Government have not taken the opportunity p...

Edward Timpson | 559 cc59-60 (Link to this contribution)

Although the hon. Lady has raised an issue that is not covered in the Bill, it is an important on...

Nigel Evans | 559 c61 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Before I call Stephen Twigg, I inform the House that, initially, there will be an eight-mi...

Stephen Twigg | 559 cc61-2 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the Minister both on his opening remarks and on his wider handling of the Bill. In...

Steve McCabe | 559 c62 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate that the Minister tried to cover a lot of ground quickly, but his response to the ho...

Stephen Twigg | 559 c62 (Link to this contribution)

I share my hon. Friend’s concerns, but I will come to a number of ways in which the Bill needs to...

Geraint Davies | 559 c62 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend may know that the bottom 25% of middle class children, on measures of cognitive ab...

Stephen Twigg | 559 c62 (Link to this contribution)

Like my hon. Friend the Member for Birmingham, Selly Oak (Steve McCabe), my hon. Friend anticipat...

Cheryl Gillan | 559 cc62-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way. If I may, I will take this opportunity to con...

Stephen Twigg | 559 c63 (Link to this contribution)

I pay tribute to the right hon. Lady for her lengthy record of work on this issue, including secu...

Graham Stuart | 559 c63 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the hon. Gentleman about imposing as best we can on health, but the NHS has a consti...

Stephen Twigg | 559 cc63-4 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman refers to an important point, which makes the case for the agenda on health an...

Stuart Andrew | 559 c64 (Link to this contribution)

Having spent time working in the children’s hospice movement, I am well aware of families constan...

Stephen Twigg | 559 c64 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. The hon. Gentleman raises an important point, and I will come on to the Government’s ...

Edward Timpson | 559 c64 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the shadow Secretary of State. Just to try to answer his question, we intend to ...

Stephen Twigg | 559 c64 (Link to this contribution)

I am wary of ever disagreeing with the illustrious Education Committee—[Interruption.] That appli...

John McDonnell | 559 c65 (Link to this contribution)

We have had situations where affirmative and super-affirmative resolutions have been used so we c...

Stephen Twigg | 559 c65 (Link to this contribution)

That is absolutely right and sensible. The spirit of the Minister’s speech, and his and the Gover...

Stephen Twigg | 559 c65 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the Minister indicating from a sedentary position that that is the case. Parents were t...

Alex Cunningham | 559 c65 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend will be aware that young carers can also have lower educational attainment. Does h...

Stephen Twigg | 559 c66 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely, and I shall briefly address the issue of young carers later in my speech. I pay tribu...

Baroness Keeley | 559 c66 (Link to this contribution)

That is a very important point. I have served on the pre-legislative scrutiny Committee for the d...

Stephen Twigg | 559 cc66-7 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for her intervention. She anticipates my next point, as I was about to say...

Tim Loughton | 559 c67 (Link to this contribution)

Does the shadow Secretary of State not acknowledge that what was proposed and became law in Austr...

Stephen Twigg | 559 cc67-8 (Link to this contribution)

I certainly do not doubt the sincerity of the attempt to address this issue and to learn from the...

Edward Timpson | 559 c68 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman’s point about the work done by local authorities before care proceedings is ex...

Stephen Twigg | 559 c68 (Link to this contribution)

I understand that specifying a time limit in that way in primary legislation is very unusual inte...

Meg Hillier | 559 c69 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend share my fear that agencies may cream off a profit and add costs to parents r...

Stephen Twigg | 559 c69 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has raised a legitimate concern that has been expressed by a number of other peopl...

Nigel Evans | 559 c69 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I am now imposing an eight-minute limit.

6.6 pm

Jonathan Djanogly | 559 cc69-72 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the Bill. It is a Bill of many parts.

I intend to concentrate on the clauses that...

Lord Blunkett | 559 cc72-3 (Link to this contribution)

I have personal and family experience and experience in local and central Government of the matte...

Lord Beith | 559 cc73-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the former Home Secretary, the right hon. Member for Sheffield, Bright...

Tim Loughton | 559 c76 (Link to this contribution)

Can we nail that misconception straight away? The provision has nothing to do with giving rights ...

Lord Beith | 559 c76 (Link to this contribution)

I entirely agree with the hon. Gentleman and former Minister on what we are seeking to achieve, b...

Lord Beith | 559 c76 (Link to this contribution)

As the hon. Gentleman says, it is wrong; perhaps the Government will have to make it rather clear...

Meg Hillier | 559 cc76-8 (Link to this contribution)

I represent one of the youngest constituencies in the UK: over 20% of the population of my boroug...

Jesse Norman | 559 cc78-9 (Link to this contribution)

The Children and Families Bill is a hugely important piece of legislation, and a huge tribute to ...

Jesse Norman | 559 cc79-80 (Link to this contribution)

I will resist the temptation to put it on YouTube.

The schools that I have mentioned and ot...

Ann Coffey | 559 c80 (Link to this contribution)

The principle that the interests of the child are paramount, which is enshrined in the Children A...

Tim Loughton | 559 c80 (Link to this contribution)

I strongly support the case that the hon. Lady is making, but that applies to older children as w...

Ann Coffey | 559 cc81-2 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for that. What he says is quite right. It is a problem that goes right...

Graham Stuart | 559 cc82-3 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to take part in this debate, which has been interesting throughout. I congratula...

Graham Stuart | 559 cc83-5 (Link to this contribution)

No, that would be unusual. Perhaps the Minister who will sum up can tell us more about what the c...

Debbie Abrahams | 559 cc85-6 (Link to this contribution)

I recognise what the Minister is trying to do in seeking to reform important areas of law affecti...

Meg Hillier | 559 c86 (Link to this contribution)

One concern I have encountered a lot in my constituency is where a child has something that is di...

Debbie Abrahams | 559 cc86-7 (Link to this contribution)

I do indeed share that concern. Similar issues have been raised with me in my discussions with di...

Paul Maynard | 559 cc87-8 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to speak in this debate and to welcome the Bill, which covers such a broad range...

Debbie Abrahams | 559 c88 (Link to this contribution)

Is it not the case that children who are in detention are more likely to have special educational...

Paul Maynard | 559 cc88-9 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for that intervention; she is right. We must recognise that the Minister ha...

Lucy Powell | 559 c89 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Blackpool North and Cleveleys (Paul Maynard), who ...

Edward Timpson | 559 c89 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that the hon. Lady heard me refer to the adoption reform grant, which was recently made av...

Lucy Powell | 559 c90 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for clarifying that, but he might want to refer to his Department’s own webs...

Catherine McKinnell | 559 c90 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a compelling argument. The Minister seems to be shaking his head at what...

Lucy Powell | 559 cc90-1 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend. In addition, my local authority in Manchester is experiencing a huge...

Craig Whittaker | 559 cc91-3 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate all Ministers who have been involved in this Bill, past and present, on many measu...

Elfyn Llwyd | 559 cc93-4 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome many of the changes in part 1 of the Bill to streamline the adoption process and the pr...

Anne Marie Morris | 559 c94 (Link to this contribution)

Like the right hon. Gentleman, my background is in law, although not in family law. I know from m...

Elfyn Llwyd | 559 cc94-5 (Link to this contribution)

Mr Justice Ryder, who is in overall charge of this area, gave evidence to the Justice Committee n...

Edward Timpson | 559 c95 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate that this is a Second Reading debate, but it may be worth the right hon. Gentleman a...

Elfyn Llwyd | 559 c95 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that does not explain why some corners of the press still believe that to be the case...

Tim Loughton | 559 c95 (Link to this contribution)

Repeating the misconceptions in the press does not help. Does the right hon. Gentleman not accept...

Elfyn Llwyd | 559 cc95-6 (Link to this contribution)

I have been practising in the courts for quite a time, and as I understand it, there is a presump...

John Howell | 559 cc96-7 (Link to this contribution)

I want to address a couple of points relating to the special educational needs reforms in the Bil...

Lindsay Hoyle | 559 c98 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Owing to the number of speakers, I am going to drop the speech limit to seven minutes.

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Kerry McCarthy | 559 cc98-9 (Link to this contribution)

As I indicated in an earlier intervention, I wish to focus on the serious impact that the Bill co...

Paul Beresford | 559 cc99-100 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate Ministers and ex-Ministers on this Bill—the way it has proceeded and been put toge...

Alex Cunningham | 559 cc100-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is vital for our children and young people that the Bill delivers the change that they want an...

Bill Esterson | 559 c102 (Link to this contribution)

I am glad my hon. Friend mentions the impact of the bedroom tax on foster carers. Has he consider...

Alex Cunningham | 559 cc102-3 (Link to this contribution)

My fellow member of the Education Committee makes a strong point. The Minister must address the i...

Tony Baldry | 559 cc103-5 (Link to this contribution)

This huge and important Bill intends to improve services for vulnerable children and to support s...

Angela C Smith | 559 cc105-7 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to take part in this high-quality debate today on a Bill that we on the Oppositi...

Peter Aldous | 559 cc107-8 (Link to this contribution)

I shall concentrate my few words, before my voice gives out, on special educational needs. The Bi...

Nicholas Dakin | 559 cc108-9 (Link to this contribution)

It is a privilege to follow the hon. Member for Waveney (Peter Aldous) who, despite struggling to...

Julian Lewis | 559 cc109-111 (Link to this contribution)

This Bill is clearly close to the hearts of Ministers, hon. Members and many of our constituents....

Catherine McKinnell | 559 cc111-3 (Link to this contribution)

The Bill covers such a medley of issues about which I and many of my constituents care deeply tha...

Tim Loughton | 559 c113 (Link to this contribution)

I am pleased to have the opportunity to speak in support of the Bill, albeit briefly. I offer my ...

Charlie Elphicke | 559 c113 (Link to this contribution)

We know there is a problem, do we not, because these cases so often fill our constituency surgeri...

Tim Loughton | 559 cc113-5 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful. It is a problem that we have all known about, but have shied away from doing somet...

Bill Esterson | 559 cc115-7 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member for East Worthing and Shoreham (Tim Loughton) served with distinction in his role...

Charlie Elphicke | 559 cc116-8 (Link to this contribution)

I start by paying tribute to the Under-Secretary of State for Education, my hon. Friend the Membe...

John McDonnell | 559 cc118-120 (Link to this contribution)

The general view of the House is that the Bill is a good one that could improve the quality of li...

Robert Buckland | 559 c120 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Hayes and Harlington (John McDonnell), who made ve...

Penny Mordaunt | 559 c120 (Link to this contribution)

I pay tribute to my hon. Friend’s work on special educational needs, particularly autism. Does he...

Robert Buckland | 559 cc120-2 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a very important point. A large cohort of children and young people with dis...

Sarah Champion | 559 cc122-3 (Link to this contribution)

I begin by supporting the comments of my hon. Friend the Member for Stockport (Ann Coffey). In Ro...

Dan Rogerson | 559 cc123-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to speak in this debate and to follow the hon. Member for Rotherham (Sarah Champ...

Caroline Nokes | 559 cc125-6 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the opportunity to contribute to this interesting debate. I wish to focus on on...

Andrea Leadsom | 559 cc126-7 (Link to this contribution)

I am desperate to speak in this debate, because I really want to be on the Public Bill Committee,...

Lisa Nandy | 559 cc127-130 (Link to this contribution)

We welcome the coalition’s first Bill to focus on children and families. We especially welcome th...

Jo Swinson | 559 cc130-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to respond to this debate and, alongside the Under-Secretary of State for Educatio...

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