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Borders, Citizenship and Immigration Bill [HL]

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Monday, 2 March 2009, in the House of Lords.
Borders, Citizenship and Immigration Bill (HL). Lords Committee stage second day. Clauses 37 and 38 agreed to as amended. Clauses 39 to 41 agreed to.

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708 c508-72,588-610 

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2008-09

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Home Office

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Borders, Citizenship and Immigration Bill (HL). Explanatory Notes HL Bill 15-EN also published.
Wednesday, 14 January 2009
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Proceeding contributions

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 708 c530-1 (Link to this contribution) I shall be brief because nearly everything has been said. Having listened to the arguments that have...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 708 c530 (Link to this contribution) I do not in any way resile from the amendments that have just been moved and are being discussed, bu...

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Earl of Sandwich | 708 c530 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my noble friend. His amendment is very modest, as were the remarks of the noble Lord, L...
Lord Clinton-Davis | 708 c529 (Link to this contribution) I adopt entirely the arguments of the noble Lord, Lord Hylton. I cannot understand why the burden of...
Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 708 c529-30 (Link to this contribution) I, too, support the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Hylton, and supported by the noble Lord,...
Lord Hylton | 708 c528 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 52ZA 52ZA: Clause 37, page 27, leave out lines 20 and 21
Lord Hylton | 708 c528-9 (Link to this contribution) I should explain that the two amendments in this group have been renumbered and possibly also regrou...
Lord Brett | 708 c527 (Link to this contribution) I note the noble and learned Baroness’s comments with interest and respect for her knowledge on thes...
Lord Avebury | 708 c527-8 (Link to this contribution) We are very grateful to the noble Lord for taking part in this debate and to the noble and learned B...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 708 c526-7 (Link to this contribution) Is the Minister saying that continuous employment does not mean continuous employment with one emplo...
Lord Brett | 708 c526 (Link to this contribution) I thank Members of the Committee for that contribution. I am afraid that I am going to disappoint th...
Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 708 c525 (Link to this contribution) The present economic situation has been mentioned. I was recently in Poland, which is in the Europea...
Lord Avebury | 708 c524-5 (Link to this contribution) Amendments 51 and 52 are intended as an opportunity for the Minister to explain what is meant by "co...
Lord Hylton | 708 c525 (Link to this contribution) I, too, have been wondering what is meant by "continuous employment". A restrictive interpretation o...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 708 c525 (Link to this contribution) I, too, support both the amendments for the reasons given by the noble Lords, Lord Avebury and Lord ...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 708 c525 (Link to this contribution) UNISON, in its useful briefing on the issue, raises a number of concerns such as those outlined by m...
Lord Brett | 708 c522-3 (Link to this contribution) When I read my notes and attempted to study the background to these amendments, I gave my officials ...
Lord Avebury | 708 c523 (Link to this contribution) We did not say that the person who comes back on Eurostar does not have a right of re-entry at Water...
Lord Brett | 708 c524 (Link to this contribution) The point that the noble Lord raises about weekends in Paris, as he seductively suggests, should be ...
Lord Avebury | 708 c524 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 51 51: Clause 37, page 27, leave out lines 15 to 19
Lord Lea of Crondall | 708 c565-6 (Link to this contribution) That is exactly what I thought the noble Baroness was saying, and exactly where we are on the horns ...
Lord Judd | 708 c566-7 (Link to this contribution) I was in some embarrassment on the previous debate, because I was not here for its opening and I tak...
Lord Morris of Handsworth | 708 c566 (Link to this contribution) I give qualified support to Amendment 83. First, though, let me say that the concluding points of th...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 708 c568 (Link to this contribution) It strikes me that I should have declared an interest when I spoke on the earlier amendment, so let ...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 708 c567-8 (Link to this contribution) I have already asked, at an earlier stage of the Committee, the question posed by UNISON, to which t...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 708 c569-70 (Link to this contribution) I fear that the noble Lord, Lord Judd, did not grasp the content of what I said in my earlier interv...
Lord Judd | 708 c568 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness makes some important points. Does she not agree that there is even the danger tha...
Lord Brett | 708 c570-1 (Link to this contribution) With opposing views expressed, I hope to be able satisfy everybody. I should explain first that my e...
Lord Judd | 708 c571 (Link to this contribution) I know that my noble friend is trying to answer the points, but would he not agree that there is a c...
Lord Brett | 708 c571 (Link to this contribution) During the hour and a half that we spent discussing the previous group of amendments, we identified ...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 708 c588 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 84 84: Clause 39, page 31, line 43, leave out subsections (2) to (5)
Lord Lea of Crondall | 708 c572 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry; I wrote it down. This is my last sentence. The debate that we are having is 180 degrees ...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 708 c572 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord for giving way. I do not believe that I used that word; I avoid using it wher...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 708 c571-2 (Link to this contribution) I found this interchange very useful. The reason why I wanted Amendment 83 to stand outside the earl...
Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 708 c589 (Link to this contribution) When much of this voluntary activity is to be devolved to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, is i...
Baroness Hanham | 708 c589 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 85A extends the discussion that we had earlier. It attempts to establish who is going to b...
Lord Haskel | 708 c589 (Link to this contribution) If Amendment 84 is agreed, I cannot call Amendments 85 and 85A because of pre-emption.
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 708 c588-9 (Link to this contribution) Here, as in other parts of the Bill, we are concerned about the breadth of the powers that the Bill ...
Lord Brett | 708 c590 (Link to this contribution) Let us discuss the missing paper first. I can give noble Lords an assurance that it was placed in th...
Baroness Hanham | 708 c591 (Link to this contribution) Before the Minister sits down, can we expand this debate and make sure that we clearly understand th...
Lord Brett | 708 c591 (Link to this contribution) I am not necessarily saying that that would be the case. The design group will work on this. Undoubt...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 708 c593 (Link to this contribution) Clause 40: Children born in UK etc. to members of the armed forces Amendment 86 86: Clause 40, pag...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 708 c593 (Link to this contribution) I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 84 withdrawn. Amendments 85 and 85A not moved. C...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 708 c595 (Link to this contribution) I support Amendment 86. It would be unjust to the children of members of the Armed Forces if, by the...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 708 c593-5 (Link to this contribution) Amendments 87 to 89 are linked to Amendment 86, which has been tabled by my noble friends Lord Avebu...
Lord Brett | 708 c591-2 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord for the reminder and apologise for not dealing with that question. It will be...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 708 c591 (Link to this contribution) I am not entirely happy with the terms in which the noble Lord has answered this debate. Volunteerin...
Lord Brett | 708 c592-3 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is making presumptions that are not necessarily in the Government’s mind. We are seek...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 708 c592 (Link to this contribution) Can the Minister give any assurance on limitations to the Government’s thoughts about how much they ...
Lord Brett | 708 c595-6 (Link to this contribution) I hope to be able to reassure the noble Lord in such a way that he will understand why the Governmen...
Lord Brett | 708 c596 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry, but I did not catch the latter part of the question. Noble Lords may have noticed that I...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 708 c596 (Link to this contribution) If we already have all that anyway what, then, is the point of the proposed new subsection (1A)? For...
Lord Avebury | 708 c597-600 (Link to this contribution) When Hong Kong was being handed back to China in 1997, concern was expressed by the governor and the...
Lord Avebury | 708 c597 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 90 90: Before Clause 41, insert the following new Clause— "Certain persons without other ...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 708 c597 (Link to this contribution) I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 86 withdrawn. Amendments 87 to 89 not moved. Cla...
Lord Brett | 708 c597 (Link to this contribution) I seek to assist the noble Lord and make the matter absolutely clear to him when he reconsiders the ...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 708 c596-7 (Link to this contribution) As I understand it, the proposed new subsection that is being introduced deals with persons who are ...
Lord Brett | 708 c596 (Link to this contribution) I think we are just placing established policy on a statutory footing, but your Lordships made a poi...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 708 c596 (Link to this contribution) If children have these rights in any event, what is the purpose of Clause 40(2) in inserting the pro...
Lord West of Spithead | 708 c535 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 53 53: Clause 37, page 28, line 19, at end insert— "( ) a qualifying CTA entitlement;" A...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 708 c535 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 54 54: Clause 37, page 28, line 21, at end insert "; or (f) detention, temporary admissio...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 708 c535-6 (Link to this contribution) In this amendment, we are trying to ensure that periods of temporary admission, temporary release or...
Lord Brett | 708 c534 (Link to this contribution) I will attempt to meet the noble Baroness’s aspirations, and if I fail I will be happy to extend tha...
Baroness Hanham | 708 c534 (Link to this contribution) It would be helpful, but we are packing up an enormous amount for the Report stage here simply becau...
Lord Brett | 708 c535 (Link to this contribution) I confirm once again that I will write to the noble Baroness. However, this is doing nothing but mai...
Baroness Hanham | 708 c535 (Link to this contribution) I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 52ZB withdrawn. Amendment 52A not moved.
Lord Hylton | 708 c533 (Link to this contribution) I am not at all reassured by what has just been said about non-penalisation. However, so that we can...
Baroness Hanham | 708 c533 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 52ZB 52ZB: Clause 37, page 28, leave out lines 5 to 10
Baroness Hanham | 708 c533-4 (Link to this contribution) I hope that this will be easier for the Minister, because it is just a probing amendment. Since one ...
Lord Hylton | 708 c533 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken in support of these two amendments. I not...
Lord Brett | 708 c533 (Link to this contribution) We need to await the discussion and the subsequent debate that will ensue on Report regarding the UN...
Lord Clinton-Davis | 708 c532 (Link to this contribution) As I said before, the UNHCR considers this issue to be of paramount importance and many Members of t...
Lord Brett | 708 c532-3 (Link to this contribution) The Home Office is in daily contact with the UNHCR. I say that from the experience of my previous ro...
Lord Clinton-Davis | 708 c532 (Link to this contribution) The UNHCR has taken the trouble to write to a number of noble Lords about this issue. It is all very...
Lord Brett | 708 c532 (Link to this contribution) The views of the UNHCR on international protocols do not necessarily accord with those of member sta...
Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 708 c532 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister confine that to the English language or does he include the three languages mentio...
Baroness Stern | 708 c531 (Link to this contribution) I support all noble Lords who have spoken. At Second Reading, I asked the noble Lord, Lord West, to ...
Lord Brett | 708 c531-2 (Link to this contribution) The broadness of the amendment is in contrast to the narrowness of the debate and the contributions ...
Lord Hylton | 708 c541 (Link to this contribution) It is important to avoid any kind of retrospection in this legislation. I hope that the noble Lord w...
Lord Brett | 708 c541 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, that is why I shall explain in a note not necessarily what the transitional arrangements are...
Baroness Hanham | 708 c541 (Link to this contribution) We will need a note, because I have a huge concern to ensure that the people whom we were trying to ...
Lord Brett | 708 c541 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness makes her position absolutely clear, which is why a note of explanation, fairly u...
Baroness Hanham | 708 c542 (Link to this contribution) I am still not at all clear what is happening, but for today’s purposes I beg leave to withdraw the ...
Lord Brett | 708 c539-40 (Link to this contribution) I hope that I can be more helpful on this amendment than I appear to have been on earlier ones, judg...
Baroness Hanham | 708 c540 (Link to this contribution) I do not understand the position with regard to the transitional arrangements. I understood the nobl...
Lord Brett | 708 c540 (Link to this contribution) Having said that we propose to change the way in which people will be covered by these systems, I sh...
Lord Elton | 708 c540 (Link to this contribution) I was slightly confused by all the negatives there. I take it that it is intended that those who are...
Lord Brett | 708 c540-1 (Link to this contribution) Not quite. Those who apply before the new system comes into operation will be dealt with entirely un...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 708 c538 (Link to this contribution) I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 54 withdrawn. Amendment 55 not moved.
Baroness Hanham | 708 c538 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 56 56: Clause 37, page 28, line 25, at end insert— "( ) Nothing in this section shall aff...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 708 c538 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to noble Lords who have supported these amendments. I am also encouraged by the Minist...
Lord Brett | 708 c538 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to give the assurance that we will write to noble Lords and do so either with the ame...
Baroness Hanham | 708 c538-9 (Link to this contribution) This amendment would ensure that the new provisions in the Bill could not be applied to applicants w...
Lord Avebury | 708 c539 (Link to this contribution) The amendment provides that an application lodged before the commencement of Part 2 would be dealt w...
Lord Avebury | 708 c537 (Link to this contribution) The Minister said that not every period of detention will be counted. I will ask about one group of ...
Lord Brett | 708 c537-8 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is very experienced and will recognise that I cannot comment on individual cases. He ...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 708 c536 (Link to this contribution) I support the noble Baroness’s recommendation, particularly with regard to the specific rights for r...
Lord Brett | 708 c536-7 (Link to this contribution) The speaker from this Dispatch Box is aware of the possibility of being clobbered several times with...
Lord West of Spithead | 708 c548 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 60 60: Clause 38, page 29, line 19, leave out from "application" to "and" in line 22 and ...
Lord Hylton | 708 c548 (Link to this contribution) I think that this has already been discussed, so I do not intend to move it now. Amendment 61A not ...
Baroness Gibson of Market Rasen | 708 c548 (Link to this contribution) I understand that Amendment No. 61A has not been withdrawn.
Lord Avebury | 708 c545 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 59 59: Clause 38, page 29, leave out lines 16 to 18
Lord Brett | 708 c547 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord asked a series of questions about marriage visas and so on, about which, frankly, I d...
Lord Avebury | 708 c545-7 (Link to this contribution) Currently, a migrant in the UK with temporary leave who has entered on the basis of marriage or civi...
Lord West of Spithead | 708 c549 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 65 65: Clause 38, page 30, line 9, at end insert— "(7) For the purposes of sub-paragraph ...
Lord West of Spithead | 708 c549 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 64 64: Clause 38, page 30, line 1, leave out from "leave" to end of line 3 and insert "— ...
Lord Brett | 708 c544 (Link to this contribution) I recognise the noble Lord’s frustration and, to some extent, I share it in having to deliver that u...
Lord Avebury | 708 c544 (Link to this contribution) I rise only to draw attention to the fact that this is yet another case where guidance is expected t...
Lord Brett | 708 c543 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may, first, assure the noble Lord, Lord Brooke, that the response has been dispatched and ...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 708 c543 (Link to this contribution) There is no intimation of a clause stand part debate on Clause 38, so, if I may, I shall take the op...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 708 c542 (Link to this contribution) Our amendment concerns the discretion mentioned in the Bill. It probes the Government’s intention as...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 708 c542 (Link to this contribution) Clause 38: Application requirements: family members etc. Amendment 56A 56A: Clause 38, page 28, li...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 708 c545 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his reply. In withdrawing the amendment, I should say that we will therefor...
Lord Brett | 708 c545 (Link to this contribution) First, I have an explanation. "In advance" meant that and "as soon as possible" was an attempt to ta...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 708 c544 (Link to this contribution) The Minister said in reply to me that he would be bringing forward guidance "in advance". Now he has...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 708 c557-8 (Link to this contribution) I fear that I may be descending from the general to the particular, but I have just alluded, on Clau...
Earl of Sandwich | 708 c557 (Link to this contribution) I join the chorus of support for the amendment moved by the noble Baroness, Lady Hanham. If there is...
Lord Brett | 708 c559-63 (Link to this contribution) I thank all noble Lords who have contributed to the debate. Several words have been used, which I ho...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 708 c558-9 (Link to this contribution) I think the Minister will have a very clear idea of the views of the Chamber on this amendment. The ...
Baroness Hanham | 708 c564 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his reply and for drawing our attention to the documents in the Library. It...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 708 c564 (Link to this contribution) Apropos the earlier debate, I am not normally known for supporting the Government as some sort of kn...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 708 c564 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 83 83: Clause 39, page 31, line 41, after "activities" insert "or trade union activities"...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 708 c564-5 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to interrupt the noble Lord’s train of thought, so I will be brief. I was saying that ...
Lord Avebury | 708 c557 (Link to this contribution) I wonder how we can penetrate the "fog of uncertainty", as the noble Lord, Lord Hylton, described it...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 708 c553 (Link to this contribution) I understand and sympathise with the spirit that lies behind the Government’s proposal for activitie...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 708 c552-3 (Link to this contribution) In speaking to this group of amendments I wish to raise many of the questions that the noble Barones...
Baroness Hanham | 708 c550-2 (Link to this contribution) I am moving the amendment to try to find out what the Government mean when they include the activity...
Baroness Hanham | 708 c550 (Link to this contribution) Clause 39: The qualifying period Amendment 77 77: Clause 39, page 31, line 28, leave out from "per...
Lord Morris of Handsworth | 708 c555-6 (Link to this contribution) The issues that underpin Clause 39 need to be explored in terms of whether they will be an incentive...
Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 708 c555 (Link to this contribution) The questions for the criteria of acceptance of citizenship include knowledge of background. I have ...
Lord Patten | 708 c554 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree with the noble Lord, Lord Lea of Crondall, inasmuch as anything that helps people t...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 708 c553-4 (Link to this contribution) I totally understand the difficulty that noble Lords have in visualising how the whole of Clause 39 ...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 708 c556-7 (Link to this contribution) "Volunteering" is a very attractive word today, but I have to say that I go back to the days when, i...
Lord Avebury | 708 c605-7 (Link to this contribution) By way of background to the amendment, I should perhaps remind the Committee that until 1983, when B...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 708 c607 (Link to this contribution) I would like to imply that I have remained here through curiosity born of sharing the blood of four ...
Lord Brett | 708 c607-10 (Link to this contribution) I realise that, looking at Clause 41 the basic intention does not appear obvious. However, the lengt...
Lord Avebury | 708 c610 (Link to this contribution) If only a small number of children are involved in this matter, why go to such lengths to exclude a ...
Lord Brett | 708 c601-3 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to noble Lords for raising this issue concerning the former colony of Hong Kong. I joi...
Lord Avebury | 708 c603 (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether the Minister had a chance to read the letters that I sent him, but the case th...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 708 c600-1 (Link to this contribution) I should like strongly to support my noble friend Lord Avebury in his campaign to right a very consi...
Lord Avebury | 708 c605 (Link to this contribution) Clause 41: Descent through the female line Amendment 90A 90A: Clause 41, page 34, leave out lines ...
Lord Brett | 708 c605 (Link to this contribution) I am feeling slightly wounded. I did not say that I was ignoring the argument. I said that the noble...
Lord Avebury | 708 c605 (Link to this contribution) That is not sufficient to mollify me, because I am not talking about individual cases, I am talking ...
Lord Brett | 708 c603-4 (Link to this contribution) On the noble Lord’s last point, people who have chosen to reside in other member states of the Unite...
Lord Avebury | 708 c604 (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether we can usefully return to this matter on Report. After all, we have now been a...
Lord Brett | 708 c603 (Link to this contribution) I note the noble Lord’s comments. It may be that I led him to rise a moment or two before he heard s...
Lord Hylton | 708 c603 (Link to this contribution) In his reply, the Minister mentioned east African Asians. Would I be correct in deducing from that t...
Lord Brett | 708 c510 (Link to this contribution) I ask noble Lords if that would be possible.
Lord Avebury | 708 c510 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that we can do that. It is an important point. While I entirely accept the noble Lord’s co...
Lord Avebury | 708 c508-9 (Link to this contribution) In moving Amendment 45 in my name and that of my noble friend, I shall speak also to Amendment 105A....
Lord Brett | 708 c509-10 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that I must resist this amendment. It is a fundamental tenet of our proposed reform of t...
Baroness Hayman | 708 c510 (Link to this contribution) If it will assist the House, it is possible to return to Amendment 105A in its place on the Marshall...
Lord Avebury | 708 c510 (Link to this contribution) For the time being, I can see that we are not going to get very far with these amendments. I beg lea...
Lord Avebury | 708 c511 (Link to this contribution) Clause 37: Application requirements: general Amendment 46 46: Clause 37, page 27, line 6, after fi...
Lord Avebury | 708 c511-2 (Link to this contribution) The first amendment in the group maintains the current position whereby the maximum permitted absenc...
Earl of Sandwich | 708 c512 (Link to this contribution) I want to say one or two words about refugees in this context, although my noble friend Lord Hylton ...
Lord Brett | 708 c510 (Link to this contribution) I have frequently said that the Government believe that we need to have greater integration of citiz...
Lord Brett | 708 c514 (Link to this contribution) As I said, the Bill provides a discretion to allow the Secretary of State to overlook periods of abs...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 708 c513 (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment as well. I will not go into the details of some of the other issues that I a...
Bishop of Norwich | 708 c512-3 (Link to this contribution) I support this amendment. It is not hard to understand why those who wish to reside here permanently...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 708 c514 (Link to this contribution) I have listened carefully to the Minister. As he knows, my name is also attached to the amendment. I...
Lord Brett | 708 c513-4 (Link to this contribution) Our principal aim is to reform the path to citizenship by creating three clear routes to achieving i...
Lord Avebury | 708 c516-7 (Link to this contribution) The amendments in this group were designed to highlight the fact that, as the Minister said in windi...
Lord Avebury | 708 c515-6 (Link to this contribution) That is certainly helpful, and I hope that the noble Earl, Lord Sandwich, is satisfied with that rep...
Lord Avebury | 708 c516 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 48 48: Clause 37, page 27, leave out lines 11 to 14
Lord Avebury | 708 c515 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Earl, Lord Sandwich, for his intervention. Could we have a response at so...
Lord Brett | 708 c515 (Link to this contribution) On the question of the gateway refugees, those which are recognised by the UNHCR before they come to...
Lord Brett | 708 c518 (Link to this contribution) The path that we set out has both terms. We want to ensure that people coming to this country unders...
Baroness Hanham | 708 c518 (Link to this contribution) Will the Government accept "interim leave to remain"?
Lord Brett | 708 c517-8 (Link to this contribution) The central point is that the Government see probationary citizenship as a key part of their vision ...
Baroness Hanham | 708 c517 (Link to this contribution) I would like the Minister to be very clear about the difference between these two nominations. The n...
Baroness Hanham | 708 c518 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has misunderstood my point. He said that the Government would consider an alternative t...
Lord Brett | 708 c518 (Link to this contribution) With respect to the noble Baroness, I do not believe that that actually explains clearly to the woul...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 708 c518 (Link to this contribution) I understand, I think, where the Minister is coming from in attaching a normative value to the word ...
Lord Brett | 708 c518 (Link to this contribution) I am prepared to take on board any suggestions that people have for the name. Those of our colleague...
Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 708 c518-9 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may come in on this, please, as a former probationary Methodist minister. In probation, if...
Lord Brett | 708 c519 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord makes a very good point. If we could have a word that demonstrates that this is posit...
Lord Avebury | 708 c519 (Link to this contribution) The discussion on to which we have been diverted, which I hoped would not happen, was whether there ...
Lord Brett | 708 c520 (Link to this contribution) These amendments, tabled in the name of my noble friend Lord West, make changes to Clauses 37, 38, 4...
Lord Brett | 708 c520 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 50 50: Clause 37, page 27, line 12, after second "leave," insert "a qualifying CTA entitl...
Lord Avebury | 708 c520-2 (Link to this contribution) We appreciate that these arrangements are necessary so that people who enter the UK from the common ...
Lord Avebury | 708 c547-8 (Link to this contribution) I suppose that one has to be content with small mercies. I have to thank the Minister for correcting...
Lord West of Spithead | 708 c549-50 (Link to this contribution) Amendments 66 to 76 66: Clause 38, page 30, leave out lines 21 to 25 and insert— "( ) treat A as fu...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 708 c563 (Link to this contribution) On these Benches we are sympathetic in many ways to the principle of active citizenship. Indeed, it ...
Lord Hylton | 708 c607 (Link to this contribution) It seems to me that a glance at the Explanatory Notes on Clause 41 can lead to only one conclusion: ...
Lord Hylton | 708 c600 (Link to this contribution) I pay tribute to the persistence with which the noble Lord, Lord Avebury, has pursued this particula...
Lord Brett | 708 c532 (Link to this contribution) Under the existing law it is the languages expressed in existing legislation. In future it will be t...
Lord Hylton | 708 c556 (Link to this contribution) I should like to follow the noble Lord, Lord Morris, in asking for consultation and postponement. Th...
Baroness Hayman | 708 c517 (Link to this contribution) If the amendment is agreed to, I cannot call Amendments 49 or 50 by reason of pre-emption.
Lord West of Spithead | 708 c545 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 57 57: Clause 38, page 29, leave out lines 16 to 18 and insert— "(c) that, subject to sub...
Lord Avebury | 708 c508 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 45 45: Before Clause 37, insert the following new Clause— "Probationary citizenship leave...

Subjects

Children
Criminal records
Civil partnerships
Asylum
Detainees
Armed forces
British nationality
Citizenship
Borders
Women
Employment
Equality
Fees and charges
Families
Further education
Immigration controls
Domestic abuse
Undocumented migrants
Hong Kong
Homelessness
Discrimination
Higher education
Ireland (island)
English language
Forced marriage
Marriage
Parents
Public service
Vetting
Refugees
Trade unions
Voluntary work
British national (overseas)
Common travel area
British students abroad

Legislation

Borders, Citizenship and Immigration Bill (HL) 2008-09

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