Immigration, Asylum and Nationality Bill. Lords Committee stage fourth day. Grand Committee off the floor of the House (Moses room). Clauses 44-61 agreed to. Schedules 2 and 3 agreed to. Bill reported with amendments (HL Bill 66 2005-06)
Immigration, Asylum and Nationality Bill
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677 c253-90GC Session
2005-06Legislative stage
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House of Lords Grand CommitteeRelated items
Immigration Asylum and Nationality Bill. Brought from Commons. Explanatory note HL Bill 43-EN also published.
Thursday, 17 November 2005
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Thursday, 17 November 2005
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Hylton | 677 c257GC (Link to this contribution)
I fully sympathise with the Minister in the amount of paper that it is possible to receive and try t...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c261-4GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the clarity with which noble Lords have explained what they are seeking in these p...
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Lord Dholakia | 677 c275GC (Link to this contribution)
Nationality, not citizenship.
Lord Dholakia | 677 c275GC (Link to this contribution)
There is confusion in this matter. When one is asked to specify one’s nationality, and if one has a ...
Lord Judd | 677 c276GC (Link to this contribution)
Yes, but! I am sure that the advice that the Minister received was given in good faith, but it does ...
Earl of Sandwich | 677 c288GC (Link to this contribution)
I am not sure whether the noble Baroness answered the point about the European convention or the que...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c288-9GC (Link to this contribution)
I would not put it as strongly as ““hesitate””. Before making a final decision, the Government are l...
Lord Dholakia | 677 c278GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister. She was trying to be very helpful. Unfortunately, I am still not convinced by ...
Lord Dholakia | 677 c279-80GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for that reply. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment, by leave, wi...
Lord Dholakia | 677 c253-4GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 66A:"After Clause 43, insert the following new clause—"
““SECTION 9 OF NATIONA...
Lord Dholakia | 677 c264-5GC (Link to this contribution)
May I ask one simple question, which relates to the JCHR communication? The JCHR says that it is unn...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c265GC (Link to this contribution)
It is not a question of negating the convention. The issue is that, as we have said, we think it imp...
Lord Hylton | 677 c265-6GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for her response to my amendment. In spite of the quite indifferent acoustics o...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c275GC (Link to this contribution)
I am not sure that I quite understand what the noble Lord, Lord Hylton, is getting at with that ques...
Lord Hylton | 677 c275GC (Link to this contribution)
Do I deduce from what the Minister said that Commonwealth citizens are being put in a superior situa...
Lord Hylton | 677 c272-3GC (Link to this contribution)
I am very happy to follow the noble Lord, Lord Judd, because it seems to me that these clauses are f...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 677 c273GC (Link to this contribution)
I should like to add my voice to those of noble Lords who have already spoken on this matter. It see...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 677 c283-6GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Hylton, for giving us another opportunity to debate this matte...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c288GC (Link to this contribution)
I understood the point about the European convention, and I apologise. We have not signed it yet but...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 677 c289GC (Link to this contribution)
If the noble Earl pursues this matter and the noble Baroness replies next time, she will have to rem...
Lord Hylton | 677 c289-90GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for her full reply, which on the whole I thought was sympathetic. I noted, in p...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c277-8GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful that I appear to be helping my noble friend; it is always a pleasure when I do. I was ...
Lord Judd | 677 c277GC (Link to this contribution)
I think that my noble friend is being helpful, but she is demonstrating exactly the importance of th...
Earl of Sandwich | 677 c283GC (Link to this contribution)
I support my noble friend’s Amendment No. 74. He has already mentioned the Poppy Accommodation and S...
Lord Hylton | 677 c280-2GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 73:"After Clause 56, insert the following new clause—"
““TRAFFICKED PERSONS: L...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c254-5GC (Link to this contribution)
I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Dholakia. I recognise that he is speaking on behalf of hi...
Lord Hylton | 677 c257-8GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 69:"Page 29, line 19, at end insert—"
““( ) The Refugee Convention shall n...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 677 c258GC (Link to this contribution)
I have a small matter to raise on the basis that the Clause 52 stand part debate is grouped with thi...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 677 c258-9GC (Link to this contribution)
As my noble friend Lord Hylton has said, Clause 52 has probably occasioned more criticism than any o...
Earl of Sandwich | 677 c265GC (Link to this contribution)
I am not sure that the Minister has taken up the point made by Mr. Neil Gerrard in Standing Committe...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c265GC (Link to this contribution)
Not really, in that the answer speaks for itself. I have tried to be as clear as I can, and certainl...
Lord Dholakia | 677 c266-71GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 70:"Page 29, line 32, leave out subsection (1)."
The noble Lord said: Amendment...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 677 c271GC (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps the Minister can provide some clarification. I was trying very hard to follow what the noble...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 677 c275GC (Link to this contribution)
Would the Indian of whom the noble Lord, Lord Dholakia, speaks, who has been given citizenship of In...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c273-5GC (Link to this contribution)
I agree with all noble Lords who have spoken about the importance that we should attach to citizensh...
Lord Judd | 677 c271-2GC (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord, Lord Dholakia, with his usual thoroughness, has put the case so well that it is diff...
Lord Hylton | 677 c290GC (Link to this contribution)
With those few remarks, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
[Am...
Lord Geddes | 677 c290GC (Link to this contribution)
That concludes the Committee’s proceedings on the Bill.
Lord Dholakia | 677 c286GC (Link to this contribution)
I support both amendments moved by the noble Lord, Lord Hylton. He has been at the forefront of this...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c276-7GC (Link to this contribution)
I take it seriously but, actually, I disagree. For me the principal concept of citizenship is that p...
Lord Dholakia | 677 c279GC (Link to this contribution)
I again thank the Minister for her explanation. We shall certainly return to this matter on Report. ...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c278-9GC (Link to this contribution)
I do not think that I even attempted to answer the points made in relation to Amendments Nos. 71 and...
Earl of Sandwich | 677 c255GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 67:"After Clause 45, insert the following new clause—"
““JUDICIAL OVERSIGHT OF...
Lord Hylton | 677 c255-6GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 68:"After Clause 45, insert the following new clause—"
““DETENTION CENTRES: RE...
Lord Dholakia | 677 c255GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister. As I said, I would be grateful if she could give us either a timetable of when...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c256-7GC (Link to this contribution)
This is where I fall to pieces in terms of procedure, because, as the noble Lord, Lord Hylton, said,...
Lord Dholakia | 677 c259-61GC (Link to this contribution)
Amendment No. 69 is grouped with Clause 52 stand part. It may be appropriate for me to speak to the ...
Lord Judd | 677 c275GC (Link to this contribution)
Does the Minister agree that the argument put forward by the Joint Committee was rather important in...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c275GC (Link to this contribution)
I was trying to explain that either the provisions apply to those who have dual nationality—dual cit...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c275-6GC (Link to this contribution)
Certain people who are citizens of Commonwealth countries have a right of abode in the UK. The claus...
Lord Judd | 677 c276GC (Link to this contribution)
I believe that my noble friend is trying to be helpful, and we are all grateful for that.
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c275GC (Link to this contribution)
I said specifically citizenship.
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c286-8GC (Link to this contribution)
I am extremely grateful to the noble Lord for raising a very important issue. I have listened with g...
Earl of Sandwich | 677 c288GC (Link to this contribution)
I asked whether the problem of the reflection period has made the Government hesitate to sign the co...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c289GC (Link to this contribution)
I was not relying on that document. I was relying on one which tackles human trafficking. The noble ...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c279GC (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord is never boring. The articles and elements of previous legislation are critical. Havi...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 677 c282-3GC (Link to this contribution)
I support Amendment No. 73 and I shall speak also to Amendment No. 74, with which it is grouped.
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