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Immigration, Asylum and Nationality Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Monday, 9 January 2006, in the House of Lords.
Immigration, Asylum and Nationality Bill. Lords Committee stage first day. Grand Committee off the floor of the House (Moses Room). Clauses 1 to 3 agreed to. Clause 4 under consideration.

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Reference

677 c1-68GC 

Session

2005-06

Department

Home Office
Committee of the Whole House (HL)

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords Grand Committee

Related items

Immigration Asylum and Nationality Bill. Brought from Commons. Explanatory note HL Bill 43-EN also published.
Thursday, 17 November 2005
Bills
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 677 c14-5GC (Link to this contribution) I added my name to Amendment No. 10 and it was only after I saw the Marshalled List that I appreciat...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 677 c32GC (Link to this contribution) Will my noble friend accept an intervention? I think my noble friend will find that the definition o...

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Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 677 c56GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Avebury, quoted at significant length from the transcript of Fiona Lindsley’s e...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c65GC (Link to this contribution) I indicated that the other factors to be considered would be whether individuals were able to sustai...
Lord Avebury | 677 c6-12GC (Link to this contribution) I start by echoing what my noble friend Lord Dholakia has said about the impropriety of sending this...
Lord Dearing | 677 c18-9GC (Link to this contribution) In light of that intervention, it is probably inappropriate for me to speak now, but since I am on m...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 677 c19GC (Link to this contribution) I do not wish to speak for any length of time. I am also interested in the case of international stu...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 677 c19-20GC (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to have arrived late in Committee. It was due to what an Italian correspondent once descr...
Lord Dholakia | 677 c28GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for her helpful explanations on a number of the amendments that we tabled. I sh...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 677 c29-31GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 2:"Page 1, line 16, at end insert—" ““(   )   the leave was granted to a perso...
Lord Dholakia | 677 c36GC (Link to this contribution) I do not want to steal the thunder from Amendment No. 7, but I want to come back on Amendment No. 2 ...
Lord Dearing | 677 c36GC (Link to this contribution) I apologise for speaking in the wrong place and shall try to speak briefly in the proper place. I ho...
Lord Hylton | 677 c36-7GC (Link to this contribution) I support what the noble Baroness, Lady Turner of Camden, said about unaccompanied children. We will...
Baroness Warwick of Undercliffe | 677 c33-4GC (Link to this contribution) First, I apologise for slightly derailing the Committee and concentrating on issues that arose in th...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c42-4GC (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken to this group of amendments and I apologi...
Lord Avebury | 677 c41-2GC (Link to this contribution) I would like to remind the Minister of what the noble Lord, Lord Chan, said at Second Reading, apart...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c39GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to noble Lords for their contributions to this group of amendments.
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 677 c46GC (Link to this contribution) I asked my noble friend whether she would allow me to intervene briefly before she responded herself...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 677 c47GC (Link to this contribution) If the noble Baroness goes into the matter, she will find that the number of international students ...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c47GC (Link to this contribution) I am not disputing what the noble Baroness says. The issue is why it happens, not the fact that it d...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 677 c62GC (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister not accept that the record is bad? What she describes as the relationship between ...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 677 c68GC (Link to this contribution) That was a generous way of dealing with the matter. I whisper it lightly, but I seem to carry the La...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c66-7GC (Link to this contribution) I apologise because I think I put my proposition badly. I was trying to indicate to the Committee th...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c67-8GC (Link to this contribution) I find it hard to quote in exact detail. It certainly is in the manifesto and I apologise that I do ...
Baroness Ramsay of Cartvale | 677 c1GC (Link to this contribution) Before I put the question that the Title be postponed, I remind the Committee of two points of proce...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 677 c12GC (Link to this contribution) So far as I am aware, there has not been any correspondence since the publication of the JCHR report...
Lord Hylton | 677 c12-4GC (Link to this contribution) I find myself in general agreement with the noble Lord, Lord Dholakia, on the whole group of amendme...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 677 c12GC (Link to this contribution) I did not take part at Second Reading because I was involved in other Bills. I have a particular int...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 677 c18GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may add a word before the noble Lord, Lord Dearing, gets to his feet. The first half of th...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c20-4GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to all Members of the Committee who have spoken. I should begin by saying that there i...
Lord Dholakia | 677 c24GC (Link to this contribution) The matter is very clear to the Constitution Committee of the House of Lords. It has said that the c...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c24-6GC (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the noble Lord for his intervention. My position is that I have looked at this...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 677 c37GC (Link to this contribution) I shall ask one question and make two observations. My question, which follows up on something that ...
Earl of Listowel | 677 c35-6GC (Link to this contribution) I support Amendment No. 7 and what the noble Baroness, Lady Turner, said. I welcome the news that su...
Lord Dholakia | 677 c45GC (Link to this contribution) I am aware of the meeting and I am delighted that it will be taking place. I remind the Minister tha...
Lord Dholakia | 677 c39-41GC (Link to this contribution) I have not talked about Amendment No. 4. The purpose of this amendment, which stands in my name and ...
Lord Avebury | 677 c37-9GC (Link to this contribution) I do not want to belabour Amendment No. 2, which has already been dealt with very thoroughly, except...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 677 c48-50GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 12:"Page 3, line 9, at end insert ““, or" (   )   following a course of study ...
Lord Avebury | 677 c50-3GC (Link to this contribution) The clause sweeps away the right of appeal against refusal of entry clearance for abroad, notwithsta...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c46-7GC (Link to this contribution) I was very careful to say that I was not the higher education Minister and I do not suggest that my ...
Lord Dholakia | 677 c63-4GC (Link to this contribution) I do not disbelieve what the Minister says. She is absolutely right about the need for quality of th...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 677 c56-7GC (Link to this contribution) I endorse the remarks made by the noble Baroness, Lady Warwick. She is absolutely right that Clause ...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 677 c62GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness puts huge weight on the points system, which she thinks will be easier to operate...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 677 c67GC (Link to this contribution) It was helpful of the noble Baroness further to explain her offer. I come to the final issue: what ...
Baroness Warwick of Undercliffe | 677 c65GC (Link to this contribution) I should like to check with the Minister about one point she made in her reply. While she placed eno...
Baroness Warwick of Undercliffe | 677 c65GC (Link to this contribution) Forgive me for pursuing this but it seems to me that it is in those areas where many of the issues t...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c68GC (Link to this contribution) This may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn until Wednesday at 3.30 pm.
Lord Haskel | 677 c68GC (Link to this contribution) The Committee stands adjourned until Wednesday.
Lord Dholakia | 677 c1-5GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 1:"Page 1, line 6, leave out subsections (2) and (3)." The noble Lord said: I a...
Baroness Ramsay of Cartvale | 677 c1GC (Link to this contribution) I should tell the Committee that if Amendment No. 1 is agreed to I will be unable to call Amendment ...
Earl of Sandwich | 677 c5-6GC (Link to this contribution) In general, I fully support the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Dholakia. The amendments wou...
Baroness Warwick of Undercliffe | 677 c15-8GC (Link to this contribution) In speaking to amendments in this group, I declare an interest as chief executive of Universities UK...
Lord Avebury | 677 c26-7GC (Link to this contribution) I should like to make a couple of points on the Minister’s very helpful speech. On the correspondenc...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c27-8GC (Link to this contribution) I have to reply to the noble Lord. First, I have replied to the Constitution Committee and the lette...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 677 c31-2GC (Link to this contribution) I was waiting to contribute to the debate about students, but Members of the Committee who know far ...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 677 c32-3GC (Link to this contribution) My noble friend has day-to-day contact with universities on this matter so he knows that very well, ...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 677 c35GC (Link to this contribution) I should like to speak to Amendment No. 7 in this group, which has already been referred to in the i...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 677 c34-5GC (Link to this contribution) The names of my noble friends Lord Dholakia and Lord Avebury are appended to the amendments put forw...
Lord Avebury | 677 c44GC (Link to this contribution) What is the point of designing this system of appeal if, as the noble Baroness acknowledges, practic...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c44-5GC (Link to this contribution) That is why I said the noble Lord has made an important point. I am not denying that I would expect,...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 677 c42GC (Link to this contribution) I promise that a further Chinese intervention will be exceptionally brief. It has been prompted by t...
Baroness Warwick of Undercliffe | 677 c53-6GC (Link to this contribution) : This brings us to the major issue in the Bill, as far as I am concerned. A large number of organis...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c45-6GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord anticipates me. I was going to say that the noble Lord himself made the point that, i...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 677 c47-8GC (Link to this contribution) After such a full and frank exchange of views, it would be improper if I were more than brief in sum...
Lord Avebury | 677 c64-5GC (Link to this contribution) I shall take only a couple of minutes because I have some extremely important guests arriving for di...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c57-62GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to Members of the Committee who have spoken in this important debate. For those involv...
Earl of Sandwich | 677 c57GC (Link to this contribution) I should like to add one point to what has been said so powerfully by many Members of the Committee....
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c62-3GC (Link to this contribution) I take that point completely. The noble Baroness echoes the point made by my noble friend Lady Warwi...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c62GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness would be right to worry, but, looking outside the system, the principal important...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 677 c66GC (Link to this contribution) That last interchange with the noble Baroness, Lady Warwick, is crucial because it goes to the very ...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c65-6GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness is, of course, right to raise the matter. We have to make sure that there is no a...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c65GC (Link to this contribution) I should like to respond quickly to the noble Lord, Lord Avebury—I am conscious that he has importan...

Subjects

Children
Appeals
Asylum
China
Fees and charges
Families
Human rights
Immigration controls
Immigration
Undocumented migrants
Health professions
Entry clearances
Married people
Overseas students
Refugees

Legislation

Immigration, Asylum and Nationality Bill 2005-06

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