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Northern Ireland Protocol Bill

Lords committee stage third day. Clauses 14 to 17 agreed to. (Part 2 of 2).

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825 cc296-328 

Session

2022-23

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Committee stage

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House of Lords chamber
Northern Ireland Protocol Bill 2022-23. Brought from the Commons.
Thursday, 21 July 2022
Bills
House of Lords
Northern Ireland Protocol Bill
Wednesday, 2 November 2022
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Proceeding contributions

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 c296 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Purvis of Tweed

22: Clause 14, page 8, line 22, leave out subsection (4...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 cc296-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a very short group. I will be quick, because to some extent the case has been m...


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Lord Judge | 825 c298 (Link to this contribution)

I shall not help the noble Lord, Lord Purvis, out, but I will say that the next time we come to t...

Lord Browne of Belmont | 825 cc298-300 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak to Amendment 22 and, indeed, all the other amendments. I am conscious that this a...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 825 cc300-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, many of us are worried about the powers to regulate, but it is not just about democracy...

Lord Stewart of Dirleton | 825 cc301-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have participated in this debate, which was short because, ...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 c303 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Advocate-General and I will be brief. I welcome his offer to write...

Lord Lexden | 825 cc303-4 (Link to this contribution)

In Clause 15, Amendment 24, just for a change, Lord Purvis of Tweed.

Clause 15: Changes to,...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 c304 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Purvis of Tweed

24: Clause 15, page 9, line 1, leave out subsection (2)...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 c304 (Link to this contribution)

This is a variation on a theme, but this one goes even further—I can be even briefer. The DPRRC r...

Lord Bew | 825 cc304-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Purvis, has again referred to the issues raised in the eloquent le...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 825 c305 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will briefly follow the noble Lord, Lord Bew, because he raised a point of great impo...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 825 cc305-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clause 15 contains what the DPRRC called the “most arresting” powers in the Bill, allow...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 825 cc306-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords for their contributions. I hear what the noble Lord, Lord Hanna...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 cc307-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for the Minister’s response and for those of everyone who has contributed...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 825 c308 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick

25: Clause 15, page 9, line 15, at end inser...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 825 cc308-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 25 is in my name and that of the noble Baroness, Lady Suttie. The purpose of ...

Baroness Suttie | 825 c309 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I also speak in support of Amendment 25, to which I have added my name. The noble Baron...

Lord Browne of Belmont | 825 c309 (Link to this contribution)

In fairness to my constituent, I quoted only a very short paragraph. Before that, he went on in q...

Baroness Suttie | 825 cc309-310 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord for that clarification. However, probably lots of people out there would r...

Lord Dodds of Duncairn | 825 cc310-1 (Link to this contribution)

I shall just intervene briefly in this interesting debate on the amendment proposed by the noble ...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 825 c311 (Link to this contribution)

Although the noble Lord, Lord Dodds, has developed his argument with great eloquence, and at cons...

Lord Dodds of Duncairn | 825 c312 (Link to this contribution)

With respect, I will answer the noble Lord’s question first. We had a UK-wide referendum. Norther...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 825 c312 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Dodds, for giving way. Further to the point made by the noble Lord, ...

Lord Dodds of Duncairn | 825 c312 (Link to this contribution)

The 44% who voted to come out was a much higher figure than people had expected—but I accept what...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 c312 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Lord sits down, I am grateful. I understand his arguments. It is not a question ...

Lord Dodds of Duncairn | 825 cc312-3 (Link to this contribution)

Well, there are a lot of “ifs” there. If I understand the noble Lord, he is asking, “If there’s a...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 825 c313 (Link to this contribution)

I would expect that, too, and I think it is regrettable that we have got to where we are. I was o...

Lord Caine | 825 cc313-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful, as ever, to the noble Baroness, Lady Ritchie of Downpatrick, for mo...

Baroness Suttie | 825 c314 (Link to this contribution)

Is that the protocol as amended, or the original?

Lord Caine | 825 c314 (Link to this contribution)

The vote will be on Articles 5 to 10, regardless of any changes in domestic law made by this Bill...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 825 c314 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister gave a reply to the question about what the basis of the consent vote in 2024 would ...

Lord Caine | 825 c315 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord is right that it is probably not fruitful to speculate on what the circumstances m...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 825 c315 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his detailed explanation of the Government’s position. I also ...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 c315 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Purvis of Tweed

26: Clause 15, page 9, line 15, at end insert—

“(...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 c316 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to move the amendment in the name of my noble friend Baroness Ludford, to which I have als...

Lord Caine | 825 cc316-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Purvis of Tweed—as opposed to Twiddle—for be...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 c317 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome the Minister’s commitment. I hope he sees very clearly that we do not doubt h...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 c317 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Purvis of Tweed

27: Clause 15, page 9, line 15, at end insert—

“(...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 c318 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we will build up a fair canter with the next couple of groups because their principles ...

Lord Dodds of Duncairn | 825 c318 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord Purvis, said, I hope we are speeding up a little. I will speak ...

Lord Bew | 825 c319 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for introducing these amendments and for the focus on food and a...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 825 c319 (Link to this contribution)

Very briefly, I very much welcome these amendments for many of the reasons that have been said. W...

Lord Caine | 825 cc319-321 (Link to this contribution)

I am extremely grateful again to the noble Lord, Lord Purvis of Tweed, for proceeding at a canter...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 c320 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the Minister’s response and I am not entirely surprised by it. I mean no disres...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 c322 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Purvis of Tweed

29: Clause 15, page 9, line 15, at end insert—

“(...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 c322 (Link to this contribution)

The amendments in this group are slightly different. It is striking that, of the information prov...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 825 c322 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the continued absence of a formal budget for the coming year is a pressing problem. Whi...

Lord Caine | 825 c323 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, once again I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Purvis of Tweed, for speaking to ...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 cc323-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a similar issue. I think we are approaching the same issue from the wrong angle. ...

Lord Young of Cookham | 825 c324 (Link to this contribution)

If Amendment 33 is agreed, I cannot call Amendment 34 by reason of pre-emption.

Amendment 3...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 c324 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Purvis of Tweed

33: Clause 17, page 9, line 34, leave out subsection (1...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 cc324-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have a 25-minute speech on VAT and tax, but I might just summarise it for the benefit...

Lord Dodds of Duncairn | 825 c325 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 35A in my name on VAT and excise. I do not wish to prolong...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 825 cc325-6 (Link to this contribution)

I was wondering pretty much the same thing. This is a slightly odd clause, because it says a lot ...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 825 cc326-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords. Debating the nice light subject of taxation for our l...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 825 c327 (Link to this contribution)

I know that it is late and we all want to go home, but the Minister does not have to respond only...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 825 cc327-8 (Link to this contribution)

I think that I have answered that question. I am sure that when the noble Baroness reviews the de...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 c328 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for both the Minister’s response and the probing questions. In a way, it is a shame...

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