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Northern Ireland Protocol Bill

Lords committee stage third day. Clauses 12 and 13 agreed to. (Part 1 of 2).

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Session

2022-23

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Committee stage

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House of Lords chamber

Proceeding contributions

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 c249 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Purvis of Tweed

16: Clause 12, page 7, line 10, leave out subsection (3...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 cc249-250 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in rising to move Amendment 16, I warmly thank the noble and learned Lord, Lord Judge, ...


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Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 825 c250 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I must inform the House that, if Amendment 16 is agreed to, I will not be able to call ...

Lord Judge | 825 cc250-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall be very brief and will say nothing about the breadth of the power being sought ...

Viscount Hailsham | 825 c251 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I simply express my very strong support for what the noble and learned Lord has said: t...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 825 c251 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in the spirit of trying to help the Government, I will repeat what I said in relation t...

Lord Leigh of Hurley | 825 cc251-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have been looking at Clause 12 through a particular prism. As my entry in the registe...

Lord Pannick | 825 c253 (Link to this contribution)

May I ask the noble Lord two questions? First, should these problems not have been considered by ...

Lord Leigh of Hurley | 825 c253 (Link to this contribution)

I cannot answer for the UK Government on whether they should have been raised before; that is cle...

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 825 c253 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I associate myself with my noble friend Lord Purvis of Tweed and the noble and learned ...

Lord Lisvane | 825 cc253-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for not having been present for the first two days in Committee for family ...

Baroness Crawley | 825 c255 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too support the amendment in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Purvis of Tweed, for al...

Lord Cormack | 825 c255 (Link to this contribution)

I should just like to ask a question of whichever Minister will reply to this brief debate. I am ...

Lord Pannick | 825 c255 (Link to this contribution)

Could I suggest to the noble Lord, before he sits down, that the real question is not whether the...

Lord Cormack | 825 c255 (Link to this contribution)

As so often, the noble Lord puts it very well. It ought to be a parliamentary lesson to us all: n...

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 825 c256 (Link to this contribution)

The big point about this clause is the one made by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Judge, suppor...

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 825 c256 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted that the silence may be about to be broken. It seems to me it would be odd to be i...

Lord Dodds of Duncairn | 825 cc256-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am truly grateful for the opportunity to participate, and would have done so earlier ...

Lord Hannan of Kingsclere | 825 cc258-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, listening to the noble Lord, Lord Dodds, just then, my mind drifted back a decade or so...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 825 c259 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there has been much discussion today, and it goes back to the issue of democratic defic...

Lord Lilley | 825 cc259-261 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to support the noble Lord, Lord Leigh, but, before doing so, I repeat what I sai...

Lord Pannick | 825 c261 (Link to this contribution)

There are many difficulties with that argument, the first being that there are good-faith negotia...

Lord Dodds of Duncairn | 825 c261 (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord accept that the provisions of Article 18 are contrary to the agreement that w...

Lord Pannick | 825 c261 (Link to this contribution)

It is elementary as a matter of diplomacy and of international law that a country is perfectly en...

Lord Lilley | 825 cc261-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord for effectively giving way. He rightly said, both in his letter t...

Lord Pannick | 825 c262 (Link to this contribution)

If the noble Lord’s position is that the EU is acting in bad faith, the United Kingdom, if it tak...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 825 c262 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is certainly my understanding that the negotiations are being undertaken in good fai...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 825 cc262-3 (Link to this contribution)

That is helpful, thank you. What kind of measures do we anticipate, and what would be their impac...

Lord Leigh of Hurley | 825 c263 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the noble Baroness that I was trying to create a framework, in a very amateurish way...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 825 c264 (Link to this contribution)

That is a very helpful question. I do not think the situation is about being with or without Clau...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 825 cc264-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this debate and fully acknowledge that t...

Viscount Hailsham | 825 c265 (Link to this contribution)

I intervene on a narrow point. Why is my noble friend against the test of necessity being include...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 825 cc265-6 (Link to this contribution)

I believe that my noble friend is talking about the ministerial powers that exist here. We have h...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 825 c266 (Link to this contribution)

Can I take from what the Minister said that the intention is that there would be one UK-wide sche...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 825 c266 (Link to this contribution)

I acknowledge what the noble Baroness has said. As I said, what we are looking to do in the basis...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 825 c266 (Link to this contribution)

No, I think we are. That is exactly what we are seeking to do. It is clear that the noble Barones...

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 825 c266 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think it is clear; I do not understand. If the wish of the Government is to apply UK sta...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 825 cc266-8 (Link to this contribution)

I have listened again to the noble Lord and, if I may, just for clarity, I will ensure that I get...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 cc268-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful for the Minister’s response. He knows that I respect him greatly, bu...

Baroness Henig | 825 c270 (Link to this contribution)

We come to Amendment 20. If this amendment is agreed to, I cannot call Amendments 21, 21A or 21C ...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 c270 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Purvis of Tweed

20: Clause 13, page 7, line 27, leave out subsection (4...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 cc270-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 20 is, in many ways, connected and therefore I need not be as long about this...

Lord Judge | 825 cc271-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall not repeat myself, but I shall draw attention to the fact that, in the debate o...

Lord Hain | 825 cc272-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak to Amendments 21B, 21C, 23B and 23C, in my name and the names of my noble frien...

Lord Deben | 825 cc275-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in declaring an interest as chairman of the Climate Change Committee, I wish to follow ...

Earl of Kinnoull | 825 cc277-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I continue to be worried by the interrelationship between the trade and co-operation ag...

Lord Cormack | 825 c278 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to make yet another appeal to my noble friends on the Front Bench to pause this ...

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 825 c279 (Link to this contribution)

I keep hoping that the noble Lord, Lord Cormack, will say something with which I can disagree—but...

Baroness Hoey | 825 c279 (Link to this contribution)

I understand what the noble Lord is saying—that the European Union would likely invoke some kind ...

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 825 c279 (Link to this contribution)

With great respect to the noble Baroness, that is not what the public opinion polls are telling u...

Baroness Hoey | 825 c279 (Link to this contribution)

The opinion polls told us that remain was going to win the referendum—they were very wrong.

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 825 c280 (Link to this contribution)

I have no expertise to match that of the noble Baroness. But I do think we need to remember that,...

Lord Deben | 825 c280 (Link to this contribution)

Will my noble friend accept this, just to get the two noble Lords together—if I may put it like t...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 825 cc280-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to support Amendments 21B, 21C and 23C in the name of my noble friend Lord Hain....

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 825 cc281-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wonder whether we should stop and think for a moment. The electricity issue that has ...

Lord Pannick | 825 c282 (Link to this contribution)

As always, the noble and learned Baroness speaks great sense. I shall address very briefly a poin...

Lord Pannick | 825 c282 (Link to this contribution)

It is getting late—we are almost at dinnertime, I hope. The point is about international law. Cla...

Lord McCrea of Magherafelt and Cookstown | 825 cc282-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is the third day we have been debating the Northern Ireland protocol and I know Me...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 825 cc283-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group of amendments brings us to the role of the European Court of Justice, with C...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 825 c284 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank again all noble Lords who have spoken on this issue. I will approach the questi...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 825 cc284-6 (Link to this contribution)

Did I say “Lord Tweed of Purvis”? It is written in my notes as “Tweed of Purvis”. It is getting l...

Lord Pannick | 825 c286 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord said that the Government take the view that it is inappropriate for the court of j...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 825 c286 (Link to this contribution)

I have given the Government’s position, and I am going to totally digress at this point from my s...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 825 c287 (Link to this contribution)

I am glad to be of service to the noble Lord.

Lord Hain | 825 c287 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister has been very generous and kind in saying that he was grateful that I raised the sin...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 825 cc287-8 (Link to this contribution)

I do not know if I disappoint or please by saying that there are several more pages in my speakin...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 825 cc288-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for the Minister’s response. I reassure him that I am not precious either...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 825 c289 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope we can make slightly faster progress on the Bill after dinner, having completed ...

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