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Health and Care Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Wednesday, 26 January 2022, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage sixth day. Clauses 26 to 38 agreed to. Schedules 4 and 5 agreed to. Clause 39 under consideration. (Part 2 of 3).

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

818 cc311-359 

Session

2021-22

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Health and Care Bill 2021-22. Brought from the Commons.
Wednesday, 24 November 2021
Bills
House of Lords
Health and Care Bill
Wednesday, 26 January 2022
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Lords
Health and Care Bill
Wednesday, 26 January 2022
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 818 cc311-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, will be speaking remotely in this debate. I should al...

Lord Lansley | 818 c312 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Lansley

162A: Clause 26, page 37, leave out lines 23 to 30

Member...


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Lord Lansley | 818 cc312-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the purpose of Clause 26 is to introduce a process by which the Care Quality Commission...

Baroness Brinton | 818 cc313-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Lansley, has set out the tensions underlying the Bill about return...

Baroness Merron | 818 c314 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is essential that we get the arrangements for the Care Quality Commission right thro...

Baroness Altmann | 818 c314 (Link to this contribution)

Can I briefly ask my noble friend whether part of the thinking behind the current wording might b...

Earl Howe | 818 cc314-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord Lansley for bringing this debate before the Committee. He ...

Lord Lansley | 818 cc315-6 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my noble friend for that explanation, which, I am sorry to tell him, wholly fail...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 818 c316 (Link to this contribution)

We come to the group beginning Amendment 164. The noble Baronesses, Lady Brinton and Lady Masham,...

Baroness Wheeler | 818 c316 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Wheeler

164: Clause 26, page 37, line 35, at end insert—

“(4A...

Baroness Wheeler | 818 cc316-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 164 heads this wide-ranging group and probes how the proposed Care Quality Co...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 818 c319 (Link to this contribution)

I remind the Committee that both the noble Baronesses, Lady Brinton and Lady Masham, will be cont...

Baroness Brinton | 818 cc319-320 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have signed two amendments in this very wide-ranging group. The first, in the name of...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 818 c320 (Link to this contribution)

I call the noble Baroness, Lady Masham of Ilton.

Baroness Masham of Ilton | 818 c320 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 178, 266 and 293. Amendment 178, which was tabled by the no...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 cc320-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have Amendment 176, the second amendment in this group, and two other amendments. I s...

Baroness Barker | 818 cc322-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in following the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, I declare an interest as the patron of the Nati...

Baroness Fraser of Craigmaddie | 818 cc323-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in this rather large group of amendments, I shall take us from catering to my Amendment...

Lord Patel | 818 cc324-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 243 in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Merron, and Am...

Baroness Watkins of Tavistock | 818 cc326-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Patel, on the term “nurse”, which is pr...

Lord Kakkar | 818 cc327-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 264, in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Hunt of Kings Heath, to wh...

Lord Lansley | 818 cc328-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, can I just take us back to Amendment 266, to which I have added my name, before we lose...

Lord Bethell | 818 cc329-330 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 266 in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Merron, and Amendment 2...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 818 cc330-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as I address Amendment 266, I should declare that I am a vice-president of the Chartere...

Lord Borwick | 818 c332 (Link to this contribution)

Briefly, I support Amendment 176 from the noble Lord, Lord Hunt. I first declare two interests as...

Lord Sharkey | 818 cc332-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lord’s, I shall speak to Amendments 178 and 240, and I remind the Committee of my interest as ...

Baroness Meyer | 818 c333 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in speaking to Amendment 266, I shall not speak for long because everything has been sa...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 818 c333 (Link to this contribution)

I want to follow the noble Lord, Lord Sharkey, because I am former chair of the Specialised Healt...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 818 cc333-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in part because I listened to the lecture with which we started this session but more b...

Baroness Watkins of Tavistock | 818 c335 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise to the Committee for omitting to say that I am a registered nurse on the NM...

Baroness Walmsley | 818 cc336-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will be as brief as I can. I have a few words about some of the amendments in this wi...

Lord Kamall | 818 cc337-340 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for their contributions and for sharing their knowledge and expertise—and, in...

Lord Patel | 818 c338 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Minister suggested that, to have any changes in the appointment of surgeons, the de...

Lord Kamall | 818 c338 (Link to this contribution)

If it is as straightforward as the noble Lord suggests, I will see if that can be done.

Baroness Wheeler | 818 cc338-341 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords for their many expert and very informative contributions. It has be...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 cc341-2 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath (Lab)

165: After Clause 27, insert the following ne...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 cc342-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my Amendments 165 and 166 are rather more focused than the last group. They are probing...

Lord Lansley | 818 cc343-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I may make two quick points. At an earlier stage in the Committee, using the ex...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 818 c344 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to Amendment 165 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Hunt. This is...

Lord Stevens of Birmingham | 818 cc344-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I just wanted to respond to the last set of very important questions that have arisen. ...

Baroness Walmsley | 818 c345 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have been reminded many times during the debates in Committee of the aims of the Bil...

Baroness Thornton | 818 cc345-6 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend for tabling these amendments; I have added my name to both of them. They ...

Earl Howe | 818 c346 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, for bringing us back to the subject of plac...

Baroness Thornton | 818 c346 (Link to this contribution)

Has the Minister actually seen the model constitution that will be imposed by NHS England, and do...

Earl Howe | 818 c347 (Link to this contribution)

My understanding is that it is work in progress—so no, I have not seen it.

Baroness Thornton | 818 c347 (Link to this contribution)

Is it not then unsatisfactory that we should complete the passage of the Bill without having sigh...

Earl Howe | 818 cc347-8 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think that is a reasonable ask by the noble Baroness, if I may say so. I am trying to de...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 818 c348 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, is he in a position to answer the question I asked about the timin...

Earl Howe | 818 c348 (Link to this contribution)

I shall need to write to the noble Baroness about that timing because I do not have it. I meant t...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 cc348-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Earl and to the noble Baroness, Lady Tyler, for her helpful ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 c350 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath

174A: Clause 39, page 47, line 17, at end insert—

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 cc350-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we come to Clause 39, which I think is one of the most significant ways in which the Bi...

Lord Lansley | 818 cc351-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall intervene relatively briefly. The noble Lord, Lord Hunt, quite rightly said tha...

Lord Warner | 818 c353 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a delight to follow the noble Lords, Lord Lansley and Lord Hunt, on this set of a...

Baroness Walmsley | 818 cc353-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the noble Lord, Lord Lansley. Clauses 39 and 64 give the widest possible powe...

Baroness Thornton | 818 cc355-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am nearly convinced that I should have put my name to the opposition to Clause 39 sta...

Lord Kamall | 818 cc356-7 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords for their amendments and for challenging the issues around the power of d...

Lord Lansley | 818 c358 (Link to this contribution)

Let me give my noble friend one simple example of how this could shift decision-making from NHS b...

Lord Warner | 818 c358 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister answers that question, could I add another? We have had 10 years’ experience ...

Lord Kamall | 818 c358 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State cannot issue a direction to CCGs or ICBs on any of this using this power. ...

Lord Lansley | 818 c358 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt my noble friend again but let us be clear: the Secretary of State would b...

Lord Kamall | 818 cc358-9 (Link to this contribution)

If my noble friend will allow me, I will have to consider that and write, and make that available...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 c359 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a very significant debate, because when the Minister referred to the fact...

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