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Health and Care Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Wednesday, 26 January 2022, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage sixth day. Clauses 39 to 69 agreed to. Schedules 6 to 11 agreed to. (Part 3 of 3).

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

818 cc372-432 

Session

2021-22

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Health and Care Bill 2021-22. Brought from the Commons.
Wednesday, 24 November 2021
Bills
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Health and Care Bill
Wednesday, 26 January 2022
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House of Lords
Health and Care Bill
Wednesday, 26 January 2022
Parliamentary proceedings
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Proceeding contributions

Baroness Thornton | 818 c373 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would much prefer that the noble Baroness, Lady Cumberlege, should open on this group...

Baroness Cumberlege | 818 cc373-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 179 and the other amendments in my name. I thank the noble Lo...


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Baroness Pitkeathley | 818 c374 (Link to this contribution)

I call the noble Lord, Lord Howarth, who is participating remotely.

Lord Howarth of Newport | 818 cc374-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, your Lordships’ Select Committee on the Constitution, of which I have the honour to be ...

Lord Stevens of Birmingham | 818 cc377-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a privilege to speak to this group of amendments. I recognise that a public servi...

Lord Shipley | 818 c379 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very glad I delayed my speech so that I could hear the noble Lord, Lord Stevens of...

Lord Patel | 818 c380 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support all the amendments in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Cumberlege. She in...

Lord Lansley | 818 c380 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall be brief. I put my name to Clause 40 stand part, and I think that is the best w...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 cc380-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I described at Second Reading, or at some point in a meeting with the Minister, an atte...

Lord Lansley | 818 c381 (Link to this contribution)

If anyone cares to look at it, it was also a very good illustration of the benefits of the Indepe...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 c381 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed, we have a rigorous process involving the overview and scrutiny committee, as has been sai...

Lord Warner | 818 c381 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to briefly make clear my support for this group of amendments and try to be cons...

Baroness Walmsley | 818 c382 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am in favour of surgical excision. I oppose the powers of the Secretary of State in C...

Baroness Thornton | 818 cc382-3 (Link to this contribution)

I think the Minister is probably getting the message by now. I shall speak to my Clause 40 stand ...

Lord Kamall | 818 cc383-4 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords and noble Baronesses for their contributions. I would be pretty blind or ...

Baroness Thornton | 818 c384 (Link to this contribution)

Is the Minister saying that the Government and his department do not trust NHS England to fulfil ...

Lord Kamall | 818 c384 (Link to this contribution)

No, we are saying that, where there is an issue and it is taking a long time, this measure allows...

Baroness Thornton | 818 c384 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister think that will save time?

Baroness Cumberlege | 818 c384 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before the Minister goes on—just so I do not lose the thread here— could he tell us why...

Lord Kamall | 818 c385 (Link to this contribution)

I must clarify here. I have said that we expect the Independent Reconfiguration Panel to continue...

Baroness Cumberlege | 818 c385 (Link to this contribution)

So that presents a problem. What does the Secretary of State do, and what does the independent pa...

Lord Kamall | 818 c385 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State will be advised by the Independent Reconfiguration Panel, especially where...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 c385 (Link to this contribution)

There are a lot of marginal seats, and there is going to be a general election in two and a half ...

Lord Warner | 818 c385 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, following on from the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, I ask the Minister to consider the point t...

Lord Kamall | 818 c386 (Link to this contribution)

We agree with the noble Lord. We do not want to waste time by being able to come in only late in ...

Lord Crisp | 818 c387 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Crisp

188: Clause 54, page 53, leave out lines 18 to 20 and insert—

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Lord Crisp | 818 cc387-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my five amendments to Clause 54 follow on quite closely from the discussions we have ju...

Baroness Henig | 818 c388 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, is taking part remotely. I invite the noble Baroness ...

Baroness Brinton | 818 cc388-390 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendments in this group, so ably introduced by the noble Lord, Lord Crisp, aim to ...

Lord Lansley | 818 c390 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I intervene briefly to say that I support the amendments in the name of the noble Lord,...

Lord Stevens of Birmingham | 818 cc390-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will be brief. In response to the noble Lord, Lord Lansley, in fairness, there is log...

Baroness Neuberger | 818 c391 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest as chair of University College London foundation trust. I want to...

Baroness Walmsley | 818 cc391-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to the amendments in this group, so ably introduced by the noble L...

Baroness Merron | 818 cc392-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Crisp, for introducing this group of amendments a...

Earl Howe | 818 cc393-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Crisp, for bringing this debate before the Committee. I hav...

Baroness Walmsley | 818 c394 (Link to this contribution)

Governments always tell us how much money they have spent, but the question is always: has it met...

Earl Howe | 818 cc394-5 (Link to this contribution)

There will be money to address the backlog of repairs within that total.

Of course, it is o...

Lord Crisp | 818 c395 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that reply. I have one point to make and one question. My point is that ...

Earl Howe | 818 c395 (Link to this contribution)

I had not quite finished the remarks I was going to make, so perhaps the noble Lord will bear wit...

Lord Crisp | 818 c395 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords who have spoken in support of the amendment, for the very clear message that ...

Lord Lansley | 818 cc396-7 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt when the Committee was making such good progress. This clause brings into...

Lord Davies of Brixton | 818 cc398-9 (Link to this contribution)

I wish to address Amendments 201A, 201B and 201C—my name has been left off Amendment 201A for som...

Lord Stevens of Birmingham | 818 c400 (Link to this contribution)

I shall briefly make two points. First, having looked at this quite carefully, it is good to see ...

Baroness Thornton | 818 c400 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is very gratifying that so many noble Lords have decided to come in to take part in ...

Lord Kamall | 818 cc400-2 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness and echo her gratitude to all the noble Lords who have turned up for t...

Lord Lansley | 818 cc402-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am most grateful for the Minister’s response to that short debate and for the other c...

Baroness Meacher | 818 c403 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Meacher

203: Clause 69, page 62, line 19, at end insert—

“(1A...

Baroness Meacher | 818 cc403-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 203, I declare my interest as chair of Dignity in Dying, the sister...

Lord McNicol of West Kilbride | 818 c404 (Link to this contribution)

I now call the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, to speak remotely.

Baroness Brinton | 818 cc404-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there are two amendments in this group, both dealing with end-of-life arrangements, and...

Lord McNicol of West Kilbride | 818 c406 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Campbell of Surbiton, is also taking part remotely. I invite h...

Baroness Campbell of Surbiton | 818 cc406-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to oppose the two amendments in this group. Amendment 203 extends the scope of r...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 818 cc407-9 (Link to this contribution)

We have just listened to very powerful speeches by the noble Baronesses, Lady Campbell and Lady B...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 818 cc409-410 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Green group is operating on the lark and owl system —appropriately enough, you migh...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 818 cc410-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to Amendment 297 from the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth. He has made th...

Lord Warner | 818 cc411-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth. This is an unusual...

Baroness Young of Old Scone | 818 c412 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think I am about to score a historic double whammy. I thought that I had stayed tonig...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 818 cc412-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, your Lordships will know that I have known my noble friend Lord Forsyth as a noble frie...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 818 c413 (Link to this contribution)

I was able to be there, but as we got only three minutes to debate it, I did not think it was pos...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 818 cc413-4 (Link to this contribution)

Exactly. A draft Bill is preliminary to a Bill; it is not there for the purpose of not being cons...

Lord Moylan | 818 cc414-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish primarily to speak to the amendment standing in the name of the noble Baroness, ...

Baroness Wheatcroft | 818 cc415-6 (Link to this contribution)

I support both these amendments. I have listened to the noble Lord, Lord Moylan. In answer to his...

Baroness Wheatcroft | 818 c416 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, Lord Mackay. Your Lordships can see how nervous it makes me feel! I think that, in this part...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 818 cc416-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare all my interests in palliative care and as a director of Living Well Dying We...

Lord Flight | 818 c418 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, but was asked at short notice ...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 818 c418 (Link to this contribution)

The normal convention in this House is that if a Member is not present at the beginning and end o...

Bishop of Carlisle | 818 cc418-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I recognise and respect the integrity and passion that underlie Amendment 297. However,...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 818 cc419-420 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a real pleasure to follow the right reverend Prelate and, given the similarity be...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 818 c421 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way at the end of this sentence. It seems to me that what the noble Lord, Lord Forsyt...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 818 c421 (Link to this contribution)

I rise with some trepidation to take on the noble Lord, Lord Carlile, but could he just reference...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 818 c421 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord is trespassing on the old Social Democratic Party by using words like disingenuous...

Baroness Smith of Newnham | 818 cc421-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to both amendments but I shall speak first to Amendment 203, which, on th...

Baroness Meacher | 818 c422 (Link to this contribution)

It might help the Committee if I make clear that, as I understand it, all our Fridays are taken u...

Baroness Smith of Newnham | 818 c422 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps the Minister, in replying, can tell the Committee whether he will talk to the u...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 818 c422 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Grey-Thompson, has been trying to get in for a while.

Baroness Grey-Thompson | 818 c423 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to react very briefly to one comment that has been made in debate tonight, which...

Lord Aberdare | 818 cc423-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, both these amendments reflect a desire to give people a greater say over the final week...

Baroness Fraser of Craigmaddie | 818 c424 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise partly because my noble friend Lord Forsyth referred to me earlier and partly be...

Baroness Walmsley | 818 cc424-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak on my own behalf; I am not representing anybody. The substantive issue ...

Baroness Stroud | 818 cc425-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I believe it is really important to understand what Amendment 297 does and does not do....

Lord Bethell | 818 cc426-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to speak in support of Amendment 297 from my noble friend Lord Forsyth and...

Lord McCrea of Magherafelt and Cookstown | 818 cc427-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to make just a short contribution. I listened carefully to the words of the nobl...

Lord Warner | 818 c428 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt the noble Lord but is he aware that in all the countries I cited in my sp...

Lord McCrea of Magherafelt and Cookstown | 818 c428 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there is a process that the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mackay, outlined tonight for h...

Baroness Merron | 818 cc428-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this debate has probably exposed more that is not resolved rather than what is resolved...

Lord Kamall | 818 cc429-430 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a fascinating discussion and debate. I recall watching the debate on the ...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 818 c430 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to my noble friend. Could he just clarify what he said? Did he say that there ...

Lord Kamall | 818 c430 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that I cannot give that guarantee. I will commit to speak to the Chief Whip about whe...

Lord Kamall | 818 c430 (Link to this contribution)

I was not expecting that reaction.

On Amendment 297, it would not be appropriate to include...

Baroness Meacher | 818 cc430-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, for tabling his amendment. I was asked by other n...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 818 cc431-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is late. Tempted as I am to respond to all the arguments that have been put—I have s...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 818 c432 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have got up twice today to ask people to be succinct. Front Benches and Back Benches ...

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