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Ivory Bill

Lords committee stage first day. Clause 2 to 9 agreed to. Part 2 of 3.

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792 cc2138-2171 

Session

2017-19

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Committee stage

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Ivory Bill 2017-19. Brought from the Commons.
Thursday, 5 July 2018
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House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee thirty-first report.
Wednesday, 18 July 2018
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Ivory Bill
Monday, 10 September 2018
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Ivory Bill
Monday, 10 September 2018
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Deposited Paper DEP2018-1049
Thursday, 11 October 2018
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Friday, 9 November 2018
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Proceeding contributions

Lord De Mauley | 792 c2139 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord De Mauley

12: Clause 2, page 2, line 25, at end insert “, which must be...

Lord De Mauley | 792 c2139 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clause 2 currently leaves to the Secretary of State the choice of bodies that will perf...


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Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 792 c2139 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend’s amendment seeks to define the type of institution the Secretary of St...

Lord De Mauley | 792 c2139 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend. What he has said sounds helpful. I will give his response cons...

Lord De Mauley | 792 c2140 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord De Mauley

13: Clause 3, page 2, line 38, at end insert “but with no req...

Lord De Mauley | 792 c2140 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 13 and 28. The Bill appears to require an exemption certific...

Baroness Vere of Norbiton | 792 cc2140-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 13 and 28 appear in the name of my noble friend Lord De Mauley. Their intent...

Lord De Mauley | 792 c2141 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend for that response, which it is helpful to have on the record. I am, there...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 792 c2141 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch

14: Clause 4, page 4, line 11, at end insert—

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 792 cc2141-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am moving Amendment 14, on the subject of replacement certificates, because we believ...

Lord De Mauley | 792 c2142 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not fully understand the desire of the noble Baroness, Lady Jones, to limit the nu...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 792 cc2142-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness’s amendment recognises an important issue: to ensure that we avoid a...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 792 c2143 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister and the noble Lord, Lord De Mauley, for those comments. I am grateful for th...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 792 cc2143-4 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch

15: Clause 5, page 4, line 34, at end insert—

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 792 c2144 (Link to this contribution)

As drafted, the Bill allows an infinite number of appeals. This concern was raised specifically b...

Lord De Mauley | 792 cc2144-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to both amendments in this group but deal with Amendment 16 first. Rightl...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 792 cc2145-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness for her amendment, which would prevent a person applying for...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 792 c2146 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister for that response. He has gone some way to reassurin...

Lord Cormack | 792 c2146 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Cormack

17: Clause 6, page 5, line 4, leave out “with a surface area of...

Lord Cormack | 792 cc2146-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment and Amendment 18, which are grouped together with a number of other amen...

Lord De Mauley | 792 cc2147-2153 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I should like to speak to Amendments 18, 19, 21, 22 and 23 in this group. I will not de...

Duke of Wellington | 792 cc2152-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when I spoke earlier on Amendment 5, I meant to declare an interest in that my family’s...

Lord Inglewood | 792 cc2154-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in speaking to the amendment I will speak to Amendments 20, 29 and 32, which are in my ...

Lord Crathorne | 792 c2156 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will briefly comment on Amendment 17, from the noble Lord, Lord Cormack, and Amendmen...

Lord Berkeley of Knighton | 792 c2156 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wonder if I might add another sentence or two to what we have just heard and to what ...

Baroness Vere of Norbiton | 792 c2156 (Link to this contribution)

We will be discussing musical instruments in the next group.

Earl Attlee | 792 c2156 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have listened with interest to the debate. On the subject of inlays and escutcheons, ...

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 792 cc2156-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have listened to the debate this afternoon with great interest. I have received brief...

Lord Grantchester | 792 cc2157-8 (Link to this contribution)

I will speak on the amendments in this group. They are amendments to Clauses 6 and 10 regarding o...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 792 cc2158-2160 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these amendments relate to exemptions. As I said previously, this part of the Bill has ...

Lord De Mauley | 792 c2160 (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure that I fully understand my noble friend. Would not these then be modern creations?<...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 792 cc2160-1 (Link to this contribution)

Not necessarily, my Lords.

For this reason, the criteria of the de minimis exemption includ...

Lord Cormack | 792 cc2161-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have sat in the other place and this House now for some 48 years. I do not think I ha...

Lord Cormack | 792 c2162 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Cormack

24: Clause 8, page 5, line 21, leave out “20%” and insert “30%”...

Lord Cormack | 792 cc2162-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry it is me again but I feel strongly about these things. In my two amendments and the on...

Baroness Quin | 792 cc2163-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 26 is in my name and is part of this group. I had very much hoped not to spea...

Earl Attlee | 792 c2164 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Cormack is an extremely experienced parliamentarian, but his argum...

Lord Beith | 792 cc2164-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Quin, and I thank her for bri...

Lord Berkeley of Knighton | 792 c2167 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for jumping the gun earlier—perhaps I should say for coming in on an upbeat...

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 792 c2167 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 26. Given the information that the noble Baroness, Lady Quin...

Lord De Mauley | 792 c2168 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, noble Lords would expect me to deal with Amendments 25 and 27 in this group. However, t...

Lord Grantchester | 792 c2168 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group of amendments relates to the exemption definition of musical instruments wit...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 792 cc2168-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group of amendments relates to the musical instrument exemption. I say again that ...

Lord Beith | 792 c2170 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for making that suggestion. I put it to him that one of the things ...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 792 c2170 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord and I are on the same page. That is exactly the sort of requirement that I think w...

Baroness Quin | 792 c2170 (Link to this contribution)

I would like to put on record how grateful I am to the Minister for listening to the concerns and...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 792 c2170 (Link to this contribution)

As ever, the noble Baroness is very generous in saying that.

I wonder whether my noble frie...

Lord De Mauley | 792 c2170 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister answered a different question.

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 792 c2170 (Link to this contribution)

Given the hour and the debate that follows, perhaps we could explore that another time.

We ...

Lord Cormack | 792 c2171 (Link to this contribution)

Of course, I shall withdraw my amendment in a moment. As I said before, I regard my noble friend ...

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