Policing and Crime Bill
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Moved by
Baroness Hamwee
1: Clause 2, page 2, line 24, after “the” insert “economy,”<...
My Lords, Amendment 1 is an amendment in the name of my noble friend Lord Paddick and myself, as ...
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This is a surprisingly interesting group of amendments, although not obviously so at first sight....
First of all, I make the House aware of my job as a leader of Wiltshire Council, which is on the ...
My Lords, I declare an interest as the police and crime commissioner for Leicester, Leicestershir...
My Lords, Clause 2 concerns collaboration, and I see that in terms of further collaboration betwe...
We have an amendment in this group to which I will speak. Like other noble Lords who have spoken,...
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken so constructively to this group of amendments. ...
My Lords, is the noble Baroness leaving that point? It looks as though she is. I understand if sh...
As I said, a collaboration agreement could vastly improve the quality of a service, which is a go...
I have just one point. Could it be more effective and less efficient or vice versa?
I am sorry to do this to the noble Baroness, because she is trying to be helpful. However, her an...
In that case, I will stick to the answer that I gave the noble Lord and perhaps disagree with the...
Now that the Minister has made those kind remarks, I hope that if she has time she will visit to ...
The noble Lord gave me that invitation this morning. I was happy to take it up then and I am happ...
I thank the Minister very much for her response to Amendment 6 and for what she just said about w...
I can certainly follow up on that question and give the noble Lord an answer before Report, but i...
Would the Government also look at it if two PCCs decided they wanted to merge their police areas?...
If two PCC areas came to the Government with a proposal for change, the Government would consider...
My Lords, I am grateful for the care that the noble Baroness took in the detail of her response. ...
Moved by
Baroness Williams of Trafford
4: Clause 2, page 3, line 4, leave out “and” a...
Moved by
Lord Rosser
5: Clause 2, page 3, line 14, at end insert—
“( ) For the ...
My Lords, I appreciate that later clauses will enable us to have a much fuller debate on mental h...
My Lords, I am reluctant to say anything that could be interpreted in any way as negative about t...
I support the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Rosser. I have some experience of the polic...
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Rosser, for explaining the rationale for this ame...
The noble Baroness keeps talking about the strength of the concordat, and I do not think any of u...
No, that is not the reason. As I was saying, the strength of the concordat, which is making real ...
The noble Baroness seems to miss the point. If the concordat is working so well, why has the poli...
I cannot answer that. We have to give these agreements time to work; a lot of them are quite newl...
I understand the point that the Minister is making but I wonder whether she might comment on this...
I am not suggesting that where there is no concordat, people are not receiving good help. The who...
In her earlier remarks, the Minister specifically referred to Greater Manchester. There, the numb...
I am sure the noble Lord is correct that the use of Section 136 has gone up in the 2015-16 data, ...
I thank the Minister for her response, and I thank noble Lords who have contributed to this debat...
Yes, I apologise to the noble Lord for not getting back to him on that; I will have to write to h...
I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Moved by
Baroness Hamwee
8: Clause 4, page 4, line 38, leave out “a subsequent collab...
My Lords, Amendments 8 and 9 are short amendments relating to Clause 4(8), which provides:
...
My Lords, I suggest that the Government might like to look favourably on Amendment 8, in particul...
I thank noble Lords for taking part in this debate. I understand from the noble Baroness, Lady Ha...
I think it may have become not a probing amendment.
With great respect to the Minister, she did not address my point. One has a choice: either one va...
Certainly. I feel I must bow before the noble and learned Lord’s incredible intelligence in these...
My Lords, that is very helpful. The noble and learned Lord makes the argument far better than I d...
The clauses and schedule to which I will speak enable police and crime commissioners take over th...
My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord Rosser, has mentioned Wiltshire and Dorset fire authority, I sh...
My Lords, I rise to support, to some extent, the remarks of the noble Lord, Lord Rosser. Police a...
My Lords, I agree very much with what my noble friend Lord Rosser said on Clause 6. However, I al...
My Lords, the speech from my noble friend Lord Bach underlines the perils the Government are goin...
My Lords, I shall speak briefly to the remarks of the noble Lord, Lord Harris, about the elected ...
My Lords, I endorse the approach that my noble friend Lord Harris has advanced. Equally, I was ve...
I thank noble Lords who spoke so articulately to this group of amendments, particularly the noble...
I hesitate to intervene so early in the Minister’s response, but she referred to the Conservative...
My Lords, the quote,
“enable fire and police services to work more closely together”,
If I could make some progress, I am sure the noble Lord will come back to me if he feels he needs...
Could the noble Baroness clarify what that means for responsibility for that service? Is it a col...
It is about a single person having responsibility for both services. By their very nature, some w...
I have one or two points. Bearing in mind that this is not necessarily about a clause standing pa...
My Lords, I talked about the provisions in effect being piloted as some areas will go first. Not ...
On the question of pilots, the Home Office has no doubt given careful consideration to what has b...
Being of Haringey, the noble Lord probably has a far better idea of what efficiency savings have ...
Does the Minister not think that that would be desirable? A proposal by a PCC who sought to take ...
My Lords, there is no barrier to wider collaboration. I keep harking back to my visit to Salford ...
Moved by
Baroness Hamwee
10: Schedule 1, page 174, line 8, at end insert “, and
My Lords, my noble friend Lord Paddick and I tabled Amendments 10, 11 and 99 in this group and we...
I will be brief. As the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, mentioned, Amendments 12, 30 and 44 in this ...
My Lords, where a PCC is interested in taking responsibility for fire and rescue, he or she will ...
My Lords, I reserve my right to consult my noble friend after today.
The start of the Minis...
Moved by
Lord Rosser
13: Schedule 1, page 174, line 16, at end insert—
“(7) No ...
This amendment relates to Schedule 1 and the provision for a police and crime commissioner to see...
My Lords, my noble friend Lord Paddick and I have Amendment 23 in this group. It is a probing ame...
My Lords, public safety is of course paramount and it is important that fire and rescue authoriti...
I thank the Minister for her response. Although I intend to withdraw my amendment, I am not quite...
Moved by
Baroness Hamwee
14: Schedule 1, page 174, line 36, after first “and” insert ...
My Lords, we have Amendments 14, 15, 32 and 100 in this group. Amendments 14, 32 and 100 concern ...
My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, has indicated that these are probing amendments, desig...
My Lords, that is very helpful, and I do indeed beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Moved by
Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen
16: Schedule 1, page 176, line 13, after “author...
My Lords, I recognise that there are quite a lot of amendments in this group. It is more like rea...
My Lords, we indeed have amendments at the various points at which there is reference to the appl...
I am grateful to the noble Baroness for explaining her amendments. She explained that they are de...
My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness. She seemed for most of her response to be making my case fo...
My Lords, before I call Amendment 17, I have to tell noble Lords that if it is agreed to, I canno...
Moved by
Baroness Hamwee
17: Schedule 1, page 176, leave out lines 24 and 25
My Lords, I always relish advice to the Committee that an amendment that we know has no hope of b...
My Lords, as the noble Baroness explained, these amendments are about the delegation of fire and ...
My Lords, the first thing I should do is thank the Minister for putting on the record the answer ...
Moved by
Baroness Williams of Trafford
18: Schedule 1, page 176, line 25, after “auth...
Moved by
Baroness Williams of Trafford
20: Schedule 1, page 176, line 27, after “auth...
Moved by
Baroness Williams of Trafford
25: Schedule 1, page 179, line 16, leave out f...
Moved by
Baroness Williams of Trafford
31: Schedule 1, page 179, line 47, at end inse...
Moved by
Baroness Williams of Trafford
33: Schedule 1, page 180, line 14, leave out f...
Moved by
Baroness Williams of Trafford
38: Schedule 1, page 183, line 7, at end inser...
Moved by
Baroness Williams of Trafford
41: Schedule 1, page 183, line 26, leave out “...
Moved by
Baroness Hamwee
45: Schedule 1, page 185, line 22, at end insert—
“(2A...
My Lords, my noble friend Lady Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville would have moved and spoken to t...
We have a number of amendments in this group. The first, Amendment 46, provides that, before a po...
My Lords, these amendments raise a number of important points about the process for bringing forw...
I am glad to hear that the Government will consider Amendment 49, and I thank the Minister for th...
Moved by
Baroness Williams of Trafford
56: Schedule 1, page 190, leave out lines 4 to...