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Children and Social Work Bill [HL]

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Wednesday, 29 June 2016, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage first day. Clause 1, amendments considered.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

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773 cc25-92GC 

Session

2016-17

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords Grand Committee
Children and Social Work Bill (HL) 2016-17
Thursday, 19 May 2016
Bills
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 773 c25GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if there is a Division in the Chamber while we are sitting, the Committee will adjourn ...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 773 c25GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Howe of Idlicote

1: Clause 1, page 1, line 7, leave out subsection ...


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Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 773 cc25-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are at the start of Committee on this important and valuable Bill. Although, sadly, ...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 773 c27GC (Link to this contribution)

I must advise the Committee—rather unusually—that, if this amendment is agreed to, I shall be una...

Lord Ramsbotham | 773 c27GC (Link to this contribution)

I will speak to Amendments 6, 8, 11, 12, 13, 15, 19 and 20. I do not disagree at all with the ame...

Baroness Walmsley | 773 cc28-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have Amendment 18 in this group, which adds wording about protecting safety and provi...

Lord Warner | 773 c29GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am probably one of only three people in this room who has actually been a corporate p...

Earl of Listowel | 773 c29GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, briefly and telegraphically, I particularly note proposed subsection (1)(h) in Amendmen...

Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top | 773 c30GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will introduce a totally different note into the debate. I want assurances from the G...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 773 cc30-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak briefly. I welcome the corporate parenting principles in the Bill, but I h...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 773 c31GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the only person in this Room who will have applied the Children Act from the day it ...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 773 c31GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak very briefly in support of what my noble friend Lady Armstrong said—but pe...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 773 cc32-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with regard to “have regard to”, there is no question that “have regard to” involves a ...

Lord Ramsbotham | 773 c33GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mackay, for raising that point because it informs what I...

Baroness Benjamin | 773 c33GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree with much of what has been said so far. I am looking at the end product—the chi...

Baroness Redfern | 773 cc33-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as another corporate parent from a local authority, I am pleased to join in this discus...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 773 cc34-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when I first studied the raft of amendments tabled to this important Bill it seemed lik...

Lord Nash | 773 cc35-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baronesses, Lady Howe, Lady Walmsley and Lady Pinnock, and t...

Baroness Walmsley | 773 c39GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, just before the noble Baroness, Lady Howe, replies, the Minister mentioned on several o...

Lord Nash | 773 c40GC (Link to this contribution)

With respect to the lawyers present—including myself from many years ago—I will not comment on th...

Earl of Listowel | 773 c40GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord for answering my point about siblings. I look forward to the debate on the...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 773 c40GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sure that noble Lords will agree that this has been an interesting a wide-ranging ...

Lord Ramsbotham | 773 c40GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ramsbotham

2: Clause 1, page 1, line 7, after “England” insert “and its...

Lord Ramsbotham | 773 c41GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 2 is a probing amendment. After all the things have been said about laying ou...

Earl of Listowel | 773 cc41-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to my Amendments 3, 31A, 36 and 37 in this group. They would all have t...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 773 cc43-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have Amendment 5 in this group and lend my support to Amendments 4 and 31, which are ...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 773 c44GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendments 3, 31A and 36, which, as the noble Earl, Lord Listowel, said, seek...

Lord Warner | 773 cc44-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much support the spirit of this group of amendments, but not necessarily the wor...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 773 cc45-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have some difficulty in the way that this clause and the next clauses are drafted. Th...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 773 c46GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree with what the noble Lord, Lord Warner, said. The spirit of these amendments str...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 773 cc46-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak as a corporate parent. I am a corporate parent for the nearly 400 young people ...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 773 c47GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before the noble Baroness sits down, perhaps I may say that those of us who also have b...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 773 c47GC (Link to this contribution)

To add to that, the danger is that government policy will undermine what local authorities are tr...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 773 cc47-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 4 and 31 in this group. Clause 1(1)(d) refers to “relevant ...

Lord Nash | 773 c48GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clause 1 introduces for the first time seven principles to which local authorities must...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 773 c50GC (Link to this contribution)

I was just suggesting that that should be looked at and that lessons could be learned.

Lord Nash | 773 cc50-2GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord makes a good point: we should look at it and see what lessons can be learned, as S...

Lord Warner | 773 c52GC (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister explain what part of Section 10 actually requires other agencies to co-operate? ...

Lord Nash | 773 c52GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am advised that the relevant clause does actually promote co-operation between these ...

Lord Warner | 773 c52GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry but I want to pursue this. The clause is clearly—

Earl of Listowel | 773 c52GC (Link to this contribution)

I think that the Minister was referring to Section 10 of the Children Act 1989, not to a clause i...

Lord Warner | 773 c52GC (Link to this contribution)

That certainly was not what he said.

Lord Ramsbotham | 773 c52GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken. Many issues have come up during the course of t...

Lord Nash | 773 c52GC (Link to this contribution)

I am very happy to hold a meeting.

Lord Ramsbotham | 773 c52GC (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the Minister. With that, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Lord Ramsbotham | 773 c53GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ramsbotham

9: Clause 1, page 1, line 10, after “interests,” insert “pre...

Lord Ramsbotham | 773 cc53-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is where I can offer an explanation to the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mackay, ab...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 773 cc54-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I apologise for Amendment 28A. That is my fault because, having been asked to ta...

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 773 cc55-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these are extremely important amendments from the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, and, by ...

Baroness Pinnock | 773 cc56-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, for raising concerns about the legal aspects o...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 773 cc57-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendments 14 and 28A, with particular reference to unaccompanied asylum-seek...

Earl of Listowel | 773 c58GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the report In Care, Out of Trouble: How the life chances of children in care can be tra...

Lord Warner | 773 cc58-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too support Amendments 14 and 28A, but I want to speak mainly in support of Amendment...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 773 c59GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I very much support the amendments that wish to provide legal assistance to chil...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 773 cc59-60GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to make two small points, the first of which was introduced quite well by the no...

Earl of Listowel | 773 c60GC (Link to this contribution)

It may interest the noble Baroness to know that one of my first jobs with children was working in...

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park | 773 cc61-2GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, and the noble and learned Baroness, Lady Butler...

Lord Ramsbotham | 773 cc62-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister, particularly for her closing remark because many noble L...

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 773 c63GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Massey of Darwen

10: Clause 1, page 1, line 10, after “health” inse...

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 773 cc63-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in the last hour or so we have heard a lot of talk about prevention, and the Minister l...

Lord O'Shaughnessy | 773 cc64-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 17 and 21. In doing so, I draw attention to my various educ...

Baroness Hodgson of Abinger | 773 cc66-7GC (Link to this contribution)

I shall speak to Amendments 23 and 25, and I support the amendments of the noble Baroness, Lady M...

Baroness Walmsley | 773 cc67-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am afraid that my Amendment 24 in this group would add further corporate parenting pr...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 773 cc68-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my amendment in this group is Amendment 28. But before I turn to it I should say that, ...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 773 cc69-70GC (Link to this contribution)

Amendment 33 in this group is mine. In the natural parent system there are normally one or two pe...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 773 cc70-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have Amendments 34 and 87 in this grouping. I shall deal with Amendment 87 first, for...

Lord Warner | 773 cc71-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendments 10, 16, 34 and 87 and the separate issue that is Amendment 33. I a...

Baroness Benjamin | 773 cc72-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I visited my GP last week and she expressed her concerns about the number of care leave...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 773 cc73-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, nothing has been said during this debate that one could reasonably disagree with. My on...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 773 c74GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, undoubtedly many telling points have been made on these wide-ranging amendments. I cann...

Lord Nash | 773 cc74-80GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 10, 16, 17, 21 to 25, 28, 33 and 34, 80A and 81A, 84A and 8...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 773 c80GC (Link to this contribution)

Given the strength of feeling that has been expressed on all sides about the mental health amendm...

Earl of Listowel | 773 c80GC (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Baroness withdraws her amendment, I want to say how very pleased I was to hear t...

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 773 cc80-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for that very complete response. This has

Baroness Evans of Bowes Park | 773 cc81-2GC (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Lord, Lord Watson of Invergowrie, moves Amendment 26, it may be helpful for the ...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 773 c82GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Watson of Invergowrie

26: Clause 1, page 2, line 4, at end insert—

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Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 773 cc82-3GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness for that clarification. In moving Amendment 26, I wish to speak also t...

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 773 cc83-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak in particular Amendments 27, 49 and 88. I spoke at Second Reading about t...

Earl of Listowel | 773 cc84-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 48 tabled in my name and to Amendments 49 and 50 in this gro...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 773 cc86-8GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Earl. I thought briefly that he was going to make my speech for me, and I was h...

Baroness Pinnock | 773 c88GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support what the noble Baroness, Lady Howarth, has said about council tax exemption. ...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 773 cc88-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak briefly. Amendment 27 seems to underpin the other amendments with regard t...

Lord Nash | 773 cc89-92GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baronesses, Lady Bakewell and Lady Howarth, the noble Earl, ...

Earl of Listowel | 773 c92GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his helpful replies. They give us plenty of food for thought. ...

Lord Watson of Invergowrie | 773 c92GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not share the enthusiasm of the noble Earl, Lord Listowel, for the Minister’s resp...

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