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Identity and Language (Northern Ireland) Bill [Lords]

Debate on bills and Committee of the Whole House (HC) on Wednesday, 26 October 2022, in the House of Commons, led by Steve Baker. The answering member was Tonia Antoniazzi.
Committee stage. Clause 1, amendment 15, debated with clause 2-12, Schedules 1-3, amendments, Government amendment and new clause 1. Amendment 15 negatived on division (136 to 276). Clauses 1-2 agreed to. Clause 3, amendment 1 negatived on division (106 to 286). Clauses 3-5 agreed to. Clause 6, amendment 13 negatived (129 to 279). Clauses 6-11 agreed to. Clause 12, amendment made. Clause 12, as amended and Schedules 1-3 agreed to. Bill as amended reported. Third reading agreed to on question. Bill passed, with and amendment.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

721 cc319-372 

Session

2022-23

Legislative stage

Committee stage and Third reading

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber

Proceeding contributions

Claire Hanna | 721 c319 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move amendment 6, page 1, line 14, leave out from “that” to second “and” in line 16 and ...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 721 cc319-323 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to consider the following:

Amendment 15, page 2, line 5, af...


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Claire Hanna | 721 cc323-5 (Link to this contribution)

Go raibh maith agat, Dame Eleanor. I rise to discuss amendment 6, tabled in my name and those of ...

Jim Shannon | 721 c325 (Link to this contribution)

It is always a pleasure to speak, but it is even more of a pleasure to be called to speak second ...

Colum Eastwood | 721 c325 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the hon. Member on being called to speak early in the debate. Does he accept that ...

Jim Shannon | 721 cc325-6 (Link to this contribution)

I accept that. The hon. Member for Belfast South (Claire Hanna) explained very well where her par...

Sammy Wilson | 721 c326 (Link to this contribution)

The Bill does not reflect the terms agreed in New Decade, New Approach—in fact, it goes well beyo...

Jim Shannon | 721 c326 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. Friend for his intervention. I believe that he is absolutely right.

Steve Baker | 721 c326 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Jim Shannon | 721 c326 (Link to this contribution)

In a wee second. First let me say that we have real concerns about what is proposed in the Bill. ...

Steve Baker | 721 c326 (Link to this contribution)

I have clearly understood. The hon. Member for Strangford (Jim Shannon) and the right hon. Member...

Steve Baker | 721 c326 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman. I suspect that, at the moment, what the Government are doing...

Claire Hanna | 721 c326 (Link to this contribution)

Just to clarify, I do not know how much the hon. Gentlemen are in touch with the voting public, b...

Jim Shannon | 721 c326 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to platform Unionism and more than happy to voice the Unionist opinion, which comes cl...

Gavin Robinson | 721 c327 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend will set out our aspirations in the amendments we have tabled. Those amendments ar...

Jim Shannon | 721 c327 (Link to this contribution)

I will make that point very clearly. My hon. Friend is right. That is our plea to the Minister. H...

Simon Hoare | 721 c327 (Link to this contribution)

May I say very politely to the hon. Gentleman that I have had conversations with the Minister of ...

Jim Shannon | 721 cc327-331 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has a point of view that it will not surprise him and many others to hear I di...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 721 c331 (Link to this contribution)

I call the Chair of the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee.

Simon Hoare | 721 cc331-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Strangford (Jim Shannon). I was not intending to s...

Simon Hoare | 721 c332 (Link to this contribution)

Of course, I give way not only to a distinguished former Minister, but to the newest member of my...

Robin Walker | 721 c332 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Chair of the Committee, and it is a pleasure to intervene on him. Further to his poin...

Simon Hoare | 721 cc332-3 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend, as always, is absolutely right. Just as the Welsh language is not owned by Plaid ...

Sammy Wilson | 721 c333 (Link to this contribution)

Anyone listening to the speech that the hon. Gentleman has made so far might get the impression t...

Simon Hoare | 721 c333 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that the right hon. Gentleman enjoys all of those things that he has set out to the Com...

Jim Shannon | 721 c334 (Link to this contribution)

This of course is not about friendships; it is about actions and about what is right. What is not...

Simon Hoare | 721 c334 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman misconstrues what I am saying. My support for the Bill is not based upon the f...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 721 c334 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Dame Eleanor, for calling me in the debate. Its focus has already tended to drift towa...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 721 c334 (Link to this contribution)

Of course, I give way to another Ulster Scot.

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 721 c334 (Link to this contribution)

It is not just something that is contemporary. The view from the Glens of Antrim is beautiful, bu...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 721 cc335-7 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. Friend for that point, which he makes powerfully.

When we deal with i...

Sammy Wilson | 721 c337 (Link to this contribution)

Even those are not protected. The powers of the commissioner are to give guidance, not direction,...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 721 c337 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. Friend for making that very important point about the powers of the commiss...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 721 c337 (Link to this contribution)

Laughing and pouring scorn on their identity leaves Unionists—[Interruption.] “I’m laughing at yo...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 721 c337 (Link to this contribution)

The reality is that under the office of identity there are a number of principles set out about h...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 721 cc337-8 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend really drives home the point. The problem is that it is not one or two minor...

Stephen Farry | 721 cc338-9 (Link to this contribution)

Go raibh míle maith agat, Dame Eleanor. I rise to proudly support the Bill and I welcome the fact...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 721 c339 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Member for making that point, because that diversity is there every single day o...

Stephen Farry | 721 c339 (Link to this contribution)

I disagree; I think that the Bill is a good, honest attempt at getting these proposals over the l...

Colum Eastwood | 721 c339 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Member for giving me a useful opportunity to make this point. The hon. Member fo...

Stephen Farry | 721 c340 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Member for his intervention. It did take the use of the d’Hondt method ...

Bob Stewart | 721 c340 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way; he is a good and fair man, as I know because I am on t...

Stephen Farry | 721 cc340-1 (Link to this contribution)

I want to listen to reasoned arguments. Some of the DUP amendments may well have merit, but I am ...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 721 c341 (Link to this contribution)

With the greatest respect to the hon. Member, no DUP Member has said what he just suggested. We a...

Stephen Farry | 721 c341 (Link to this contribution)

With all due respect, I have been listening. People are entitled to look back through Hansard to ...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 721 c341 (Link to this contribution)

It is the Identity and Language (Northern Ireland) Bill—identity, not culture.

Stephen Farry | 721 cc341-2 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, but identity is not something that we should see in a polarised way. That is the point that ...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 721 c342 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member touches on an important point. I am not prepared to have my aspiration determined...

Stephen Farry | 721 cc342-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the right hon. Member for his comments, but I fear he has misunderstood what I a...

Carla Lockhart | 721 cc343-4 (Link to this contribution)

You will know, Dame Eleanor, as we know, that Northern Ireland works best when our communities fe...

Claire Hanna | 721 c344 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Member retract that?

Carla Lockhart | 721 cc344-6 (Link to this contribution)

I will not retract what I have said. It is absolutely correct: you stood shoulder to shoulder dur...

Jim Shannon | 721 c346 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to reinforce what my hon. Friend says about councils. Newry, Mourne and Down District Coun...

Carla Lockhart | 721 cc346-7 (Link to this contribution)

At a significant cost, no doubt, to the ratepayer.

Ultimately, in the delivery of visible a...

Sammy Wilson | 721 cc347-8 (Link to this contribution)

First, I want to make it clear that, although the Bill was part of the NDNA agreement, the priori...

Steve Baker | 721 c348 (Link to this contribution)

Just let me say to the right hon. Gentleman that he should not worry about it; we will talk about...

Sammy Wilson | 721 c348 (Link to this contribution)

I assure the Minister that I am not worried about it, just in case he thought I was. But he must ...

Steve Baker | 721 c348 (Link to this contribution)

I will deal with the things that the right hon. Gentleman is raising when I come to my remarks, b...

Sammy Wilson | 721 cc349-350 (Link to this contribution)

I would be interested to hear how the Minister has pandered to the DUP on this Bill. We have high...

Paul Girvan | 721 cc350-1 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend mentions putting up a stone or memorial, or planting a rose bush, to commemo...

Sammy Wilson | 721 c351 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a good point. That controversy might indicate the political colour of some o...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 721 c351 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I hesitate to interrupt the right hon. Gentleman. I have not set any time limits or restri...

Sammy Wilson | 721 c351 (Link to this contribution)

I will, of course, obey your request, Dame Eleanor.

Can the Minister show how that discrepa...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 721 cc351-2 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Members for North Dorset (Simon Hoare), for Belfast South (Claire Hanna) and for...

Stephen Farry | 721 c352 (Link to this contribution)

This is a point of information, which I hope will be of service to the House. To be fair to the G...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 721 cc352-3 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention, but I did not say that; I said that when the dra...

Colum Eastwood | 721 c353 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the right hon. Member for giving way, but will he bring a little clarity to some...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 721 c354 (Link to this contribution)

I agree that we want the political institutions to be up and running. We have often heard from ot...

Peter Kyle | 721 cc354-5 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the Minister of State, Northern Ireland Office, the hon. Member for Wycombe (Mr Ba...

Jim Shannon | 721 c355 (Link to this contribution)

Before the hon. Gentleman moves off Ulster-Scots, I understand and respect him for his meetings w...

Peter Kyle | 721 cc355-7 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his intervention and for the comments he made earlier, wh...

Steve Baker | 721 cc357-8 (Link to this contribution)

What a debate it has been. Such passion and fire in Committee is relatively unusual, and I am gra...

Steve Baker | 721 c358 (Link to this contribution)

I am very short of time, but I will give way.

Colum Eastwood | 721 c358 (Link to this contribution)

I understand that, but I think that it is important to put this point on the record. We have hear...

Steve Baker | 721 cc358-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the hon. Gentleman for putting that on the record. I am also conscious that...

Steve Baker | 721 cc363-370 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.

First and foremost, I want to than...

Tonia Antoniazzi | 721 c370 (Link to this contribution)

The Labour party supports this Bill because it broadly reflects the New Decade, New Approach agre...

Mike Penning | 721 cc370-1 (Link to this contribution)

I will detain the House for only a few seconds, Mr Deputy Speaker. On Second Reading I mentioned ...

Gavin Robinson | 721 c371 (Link to this contribution)

I thank you for your chairmanship of the Committee, Mr Deputy Speaker. At this point in the parli...

Colum Eastwood | 721 cc371-2 (Link to this contribution)

This Bill is a very welcome development. It is not the Irish language Act that we would have like...

Stephen Farry | 721 c372 (Link to this contribution)

I will be extremely brief, but I want to thank the Government and all the Members who have suppor...

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