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Northern Ireland (Executive Formation and Exercise of Functions) Bill

Debate on bills and Committee of the Whole House (HC) on Wednesday, 24 October 2018, in the House of Commons, led by Nigel Mills. The answering member was Karen Bradley.
Committee stage. Clause 1 to 3, 5 to 6, and 8 to 10 ordered to stand part. Clauses 4 and 7, as amended, to stand part. New clause 7 agreed to on division (207 to 117). Bill, as amended, reported. Third reading. Queen's consent signified. Question put forthwith, that the Bill be read the third time, agreed to on division (344 to 26). Bill passed.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

648 cc354-392 

Session

2017-19

Legislative stage

Committee stage, Third reading and Report stage

Procedure

Queen's consent

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber

Proceeding contributions

Nigel Mills | 648 c355 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move amendment 15, page 1, line 16, at end insert—

‘(4A) If the period mentioned i...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 648 cc355-9 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

Clause stand part.

Amendmen...


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Nigel Mills | 648 cc359-361 (Link to this contribution)

May I first apologise for being a little late for the wind-up speeches on Second Reading? I was s...

Gavin Robinson | 648 c361 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman realise that that is not what would happen if there was a functioning dev...

Nigel Mills | 648 cc361-2 (Link to this contribution)

I said that I was not necessarily fixed on how we define the roles, but we are not in a normal si...

Stella Creasy | 648 cc362-3 (Link to this contribution)

I shall speak to new clause 7, which is about equal rights in Northern Ireland. I hope that Membe...

Layla Moran | 648 c363 (Link to this contribution)

Can the hon. Lady confirm something that Northern Ireland Amnesty told me, which is that, yes, po...

Stella Creasy | 648 c363 (Link to this contribution)

I know that the hon. Lady also feels strongly about this issue. If I may, however, I shall now de...

Stella Creasy | 648 c363 (Link to this contribution)

I will shortly, but I feel that the House wants to hear the figures that I am about to give.

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Lady Hermon | 648 c363 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the hon. Lady. She will be well aware of the Supreme Court ruling in, I thi...

Stella Creasy | 648 c364 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady has raised an important point. That court judgment in June 2018 held us all to acco...

Stella Creasy | 648 c364 (Link to this contribution)

I will happily give way, but I do want to make some progress, because I know that other Members w...

Simon Hoare | 648 c364 (Link to this contribution)

Surely, in those circumstances, one just changes the politicians through the ballot box.

Stella Creasy | 648 cc364-5 (Link to this contribution)

With respect, I wonder whether the hon. Gentleman has read the legislation on which we are voting...

Layla Moran | 648 c365 (Link to this contribution)

I say this to be helpful to others in the House. I went to Belfast recently—to Stormont—and I had...

Stella Creasy | 648 c365 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for that intervention. Sadly, on both issues opinion polls show us that the...

John Hayes | 648 c365 (Link to this contribution)

That means I will not have to chunter from a sedentary position, so I am grateful to the hon. Lad...

Stella Creasy | 648 c366 (Link to this contribution)

I am fascinated by the poll the right hon. Gentleman cites. Let me give him the direct data from ...

Anna Soubry | 648 c366 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Lady also make it very clear that the rather barbaric and antiquated laws that exis...

Stella Creasy | 648 cc366-7 (Link to this contribution)

I share the passion of the right hon. Member for Broxtowe (Anna Soubry) on this matter and increa...

Fiona Bruce | 648 c367 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak against new clause 7 on the basis that it is clearly inappropriate. It goes far b...

Heidi Allen | 648 c367 (Link to this contribution)

It is very kind of my hon. Friend to give way. On the subject of emergency Bills, what could be m...

Fiona Bruce | 648 c367 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree that this is an issue that requires the greatest of care and that needs to be ...

Jim Shannon | 648 c367 (Link to this contribution)

Not only does the new clause go against the will of a great many of us in this House, but it also...

Fiona Bruce | 648 cc367-8 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes a pertinent point, which I shall refer to further.

I think the hon...

Sarah Wollaston | 648 c368 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend appears to be arguing for the continuation of a human rights border down the Irish...

Fiona Bruce | 648 c368 (Link to this contribution)

What I am arguing—reluctantly, I need to repeat many of the points I made in the Chamber yesterda...

Huw Merriman | 648 c368 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is being generous in giving way. The recent Supreme Court decision requested that ...

Fiona Bruce | 648 c368 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to address such points. I accept that several justices set out their thoughts on abort...

Fiona Bruce | 648 c368 (Link to this contribution)

No. I have taken several interventions, and I will, if I may, proceed.

New clause 7 goes mu...

Fiona Bruce | 648 cc368-9 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will continue, if I may.

New clause 7, which refers to the decriminalisation of secti...

Fiona Bruce | 648 c369 (Link to this contribution)

I have said no, and I am going to continue. I have taken many interventions, and many others want...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 648 c370 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the opportunity to take part in this debate in Committee. Amendment 15, in the name of ...

Lyn Brown | 648 c370 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Dame Rosie. I would be grateful for a more comradely debate, rather than the...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 648 c370 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for her point of order, and I remind everybody that moderation in language ...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 648 cc370-1 (Link to this contribution)

If we need to moderate debate because I have called on people to put themselves forward and seek ...

Lady Hermon | 648 c371 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman is referring to a judgment where the majority of the Supreme Court, by f...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 648 c372 (Link to this contribution)

I respect what the hon. Lady said, but I point out to her that section 4(6) of the Human Rights A...

Anna Soubry | 648 c372 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 648 c372 (Link to this contribution)

Because we have a working group that was set up by the Executive and that has brought forward pro...

Layla Moran | 648 c372 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 648 c372 (Link to this contribution)

With respect to the hon. Member for North Down, the party that is preventing this issue from bein...

Anna Soubry | 648 c372 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 648 c372 (Link to this contribution)

In respect of the issue relating to sex crime, I agree with the hon. Member for North Down that w...

Anna Soubry | 648 c372 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 648 c373 (Link to this contribution)

That is why we are unable to examine the laws.

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 648 c373 (Link to this contribution)

In respect of the proposals before us, it is important that we consider carefully what we are doi...

Layla Moran | 648 c373 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 648 c373 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member for Totnes (Dr Wollaston) referred earlier to a border in the Irish sea. Let me a...

Anna Soubry | 648 c373 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Layla Moran | 648 c373 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 648 c373 (Link to this contribution)

It was this House that decided that Northern Ireland should have devolved responsibility for abor...

Anna Soubry | 648 c373 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 648 c373 (Link to this contribution)

It was this House that decided that the Northern Ireland Assembly and Executive had the power to ...

Gareth Snell | 648 c373 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Layla Moran | 648 c373 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 648 c373 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I do not think that the right hon. Gentleman is going to give way, so rather than just sho...

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 648 cc373-5 (Link to this contribution)

I am very much aware of that, Dame Rosie. I have taken some interventions but there is a lot that...

Andrew Murrison | 648 c374 (Link to this contribution)

Rarely do we get such fine, sweeping oratory in a Bill Committee. That is probably one of the few...

Mike Penning | 648 c374 (Link to this contribution)

I do not understand why Hart has not been done. There was huge courage within the Northern Irelan...

Andrew Murrison | 648 c376 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend makes a very good point, which elegantly exemplifies what I am going on abou...

Owen Smith | 648 c376 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Andrew Murrison | 648 c376 (Link to this contribution)

Before I move neatly on, I shall give way to the hon. Gentleman.

Owen Smith | 648 c376 (Link to this contribution)

I have signed the hon. Gentleman’s excellent amendment, but does he not understand from the legis...

Andrew Murrison | 648 c376 (Link to this contribution)

I am not really sure that that is the case. I refer the hon. Gentleman to the guidance, which I a...

Emma Little Pengelly | 648 c376 (Link to this contribution)

Some of the concern is that this is actually not that straightforward. The terms of reference tha...

Andrew Murrison | 648 cc376-7 (Link to this contribution)

I do understand that. One point I made on Second Reading was that I was slightly disappointed tha...

Jim Shannon | 648 c377 (Link to this contribution)

One thing we have discussed in the Select Committee is the scourge of diabetes. In Northern Irela...

Andrew Murrison | 648 c377 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. I do not want to labour the point, but I feel the need to...

Owen Smith | 648 c377 (Link to this contribution)

I make no apology for going back to the Hart inquiry, because there are hundreds of victims of hi...

Andrew Murrison | 648 cc377-8 (Link to this contribution)

The purpose of amendments tends to be to elicit such answers from Ministers, and it will be very ...

Karin Smyth | 648 cc378-9 (Link to this contribution)

I would not of course challenge the Chair on the grouping of these amendments—that would be poor—...

Anna Soubry | 648 c379 (Link to this contribution)

When we went to Northern Ireland with Amnesty International, we learned that people cannot be giv...

Karin Smyth | 648 cc379-380 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that intervention. The right hon. Lady is of course right: the issue of advice,...

Wes Streeting | 648 c380 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has brilliantly exposed the hypocrisy of our country on the international stage. S...

Karin Smyth | 648 cc380-1 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree with my hon. Friend. Today, we have seen Sarah Ewart bravely take on the role ...

Karen Bradley | 648 cc381-2 (Link to this contribution)

Before I speak to Government amendments 23 and 24, it is worth taking a moment to remind right ho...

Gareth Thomas | 648 c382 (Link to this contribution)

I recognise that intervening on a Secretary of State is quite an attractive prospect for many Bac...

Karen Bradley | 648 cc382-3 (Link to this contribution)

I certainly intend to ensure that there is time for the hon. Gentleman to speak in support of his...

Owen Smith | 648 c383 (Link to this contribution)

Is the Minister saying clearly that she is not anticipating or encouraging civil servants, under ...

Karen Bradley | 648 c383 (Link to this contribution)

I will come to the specific points that the hon. Gentleman raised, because they are the subject o...

Karen Bradley | 648 c383 (Link to this contribution)

I will talk about that specifically, because obviously, although it is another devolved matter, w...

Tony Lloyd | 648 c383 (Link to this contribution)

May I press the Minister on the question of the victims of terrorism? There is a very strong inte...

Karen Bradley | 648 c383 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate that there is confusion around this matter. I asked for advice very early on in rega...

Mike Penning | 648 c384 (Link to this contribution)

One of the powers of this House and the Government relates to those who are becoming victims—the ...

Karen Bradley | 648 cc384-5 (Link to this contribution)

I know how passionately my right hon. Friend feels about this; and may I tell him that I feel pas...

Conor McGinn | 648 c385 (Link to this contribution)

The academic Paul Jennings, of Queen Mary University of London, has said that the new clause tabl...

Karen Bradley | 648 c385 (Link to this contribution)

I understand all the points that the hon. Gentleman has made, but the new clause is flawed. It is...

Stella Creasy | 648 c385 (Link to this contribution)

I hear the Secretary of State say that, yet I see officials in the Northern Ireland Department of...

Karen Bradley | 648 c385 (Link to this contribution)

Let me say very gently to the hon. Lady that I disagree with her interpretation of what the new c...

Fiona Bruce | 648 c385 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome what my right hon. Friend is saying, but may I ask her to address the question I put to...

Karen Bradley | 648 c385 (Link to this contribution)

Civil servants will not be able to change the law: they do not have the power to change the law a...

Anna Soubry | 648 c386 (Link to this contribution)

Can my right hon. Friend reassure me on two things: first, that new clause 7 is a matter of consc...

Karen Bradley | 648 c386 (Link to this contribution)

I am reliably informed that this is a matter of conscience from the point of view of the party wh...

William Cash | 648 c386 (Link to this contribution)

I am rather encouraged by the line my right hon. Friend is taking on this, because it is about gu...

Karen Bradley | 648 cc386-7 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate my hon. Friend’s comments. I well understand that there is great strength of feeling...

Gareth Thomas | 648 c387 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Secretary of State for the comparative brevity of her remarks, and for her w...

Anna Soubry | 648 c388 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak in support of new clause 7, and I urge hon. Members on both sides of the House to...

Christine Jardine | 648 cc388-9 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Secretary of State for her comments about amendment 22 and simply urge her to continu...

Simon Hoare | 648 c389 (Link to this contribution)

I had not intended to speak, but I listened to my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State and my...

Anna Soubry | 648 c389 (Link to this contribution)

I am standing up for what I believe.

Simon Hoare | 648 c389 (Link to this contribution)

Of course that is what this place is for, but my right hon. Friend, in essence, said that all the...

Anna Soubry | 648 c389 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely did not say that, although it is obviously something that many of us now seek to do....

Simon Hoare | 648 c390 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend does not have a unique understanding of what happens in Northern Ireland. Ma...

Emma Little Pengelly | 648 cc390-1 (Link to this contribution)

I am aware that time is short, so I will make a couple of short points.

Following on from t...

Nigel Mills | 648 c391 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to ask leave to withdraw the amendment.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

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Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 648 c392 (Link to this contribution)

I call Stella Creasy to move new clause 7 formally.

Stella Creasy | 648 c392 (Link to this contribution)

I move new clause 7 formally. We love whom we love. We all want control over our bodies. Let us c...

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