Marine and Coastal Access Bill (HL). Report stage debate. Queen's and Prince of Wales's consents signified. Third reading debate. Agreed to on question. Bill passed with amendments.
[Relevant documents: Report from the Joint Committee on the Draft Marine Bill, Session 2007-08, HC 552-I and -II, and the Government response, Cm 7422. Ninth Report from the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee, Session 2007-08, on the Draft Marine Bill: Coastal Access Provision, HC 656-I, and the Government response, Cm 7422.]
Marine and Coastal Access Bill [Lords]
Debate on bills on Tuesday, 27 October 2009,
in the House of Commons,
led by Hilary Benn.
The answering
member was Lord Herbert of South Downs.
About these Parliamentary proceedings
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Marine and Coastal Access Bill (HL). As amended in Public Bill Committee. In two volumes.
Tuesday, 14 July 2009
Bills
House of Commons
Tuesday, 14 July 2009
Bills
House of Commons
Taking forward the Marine Bill. Government response to public consultation and pre-legislative scrutiny in the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Select Committee's ninth report (HC 656) and the Marine Draft Bill Joint Select Committee's first report (HL 159; HC 552) of session 2007-08.
Thursday, 25 September 2008
Command papers
House of Lords
House of Commons
Thursday, 25 September 2008
Command papers
House of Lords
House of Commons
Draft Marine Bill. Marine Draft Bill Joint Select Committee first report in 2 volumes with minutes of proceedings, evidence (HC 552 i-viii not printed separately) and appendices.
Wednesday, 16 July 2008
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Wednesday, 16 July 2008
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Draft Marine Bill: coastal access provisions. Environment Food and Rural Affairs Select Committee ninth report in 2 volumes with proceedings, evidence (HC 656-i to HC 656-iv 2007-08 not printed separately) and appendices.
Monday, 14 July 2008
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Monday, 14 July 2008
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Speaker | 498 c170 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I feel sure that I misheard the hon. Gentleman when he referred to amendment 39, which I thin...
Lord Benyon | 498 c169-70 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the hon. Gentleman's comments; he puts my point of view very well. As I said, the ...
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Andrew George | 498 c169 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes a very strong argument, which I support, as I did in Committee. "Contributi...
Lord Benyon | 498 c167-8 (Link to this contribution)
Here we are at the last stage of the marathon passage of this Bill—well, we hope that it is the last...
Speaker | 498 c167 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
Lord Benyon | 498 c167 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move amendment 30, page 2, line 7, leave out from the first 'of' to 'sustainable' in line 8...
Alan Whitehead | 498 c175-6 (Link to this contribution)
No, that was not the first time I have heard that. I have discussed this and associated matters with...
Alan Whitehead | 498 c177 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes an interesting point, to the extent that it would be possible to say that t...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c174-5 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is making a very sound contribution to the debate. We also need to have cognisance of...
Alan Whitehead | 498 c173-4 (Link to this contribution)
I shall address my remarks to amendments 30 and 31 and Government amendment 4, in particular. Govern...
Andrew George | 498 c175 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman raised this issue in Committee in the context of schedule 5, when the Minister re...
Alan Whitehead | 498 c175 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for that intervention, as it underpins one of the central points of this debate...
Lord Benyon | 498 c170-1 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise, Mr. Speaker; my understanding was that it had been selected, with a very late phone cal...
Andrew George | 498 c172-3 (Link to this contribution)
I, too, rise to speak in favour of amendments tabled by the hon. Member for Newbury (Mr. Benyon), al...
Martin Salter | 498 c171-2 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Newbury (Mr. Benyon), whose arguments I listened to c...
David Drew | 498 c177 (Link to this contribution)
I hear what my hon. Friend is saying, but there are at least some Labour Members who, because of its...
Alan Whitehead | 498 c178 (Link to this contribution)
I understand what my hon. Friend is saying, but I do not see a contradiction between making the IPC ...
Andrew George | 498 c178 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is making a sound contribution, but the point that he appears to be making might ...
Alan Whitehead | 498 c178 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman anticipates what I was about to say, which is that the MMO must have great expert...
Linda Gilroy | 498 c178 (Link to this contribution)
I am following carefully the case that my hon. Friend is making, which has some merit. Has he taken ...
Alan Whitehead | 498 c179 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes an interesting point, which is incorporated in the view that in all these matte...
Linda Gilroy | 498 c179 (Link to this contribution)
I follow the logic of my hon. Friend's argument, but given my earlier comments, does he see merit in...
Alan Whitehead | 498 c179 (Link to this contribution)
I see no contradiction between that role and the role of the MMO, for example, in designations of ma...
Celia Barlow | 498 c179 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that as well as the narrower planning issues, as he describes them, and th...
Alan Whitehead | 498 c179-80 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed. My hon. Friend underlines the enormous changes that are taking place in offshore energy prod...
Julian Lewis | 498 c202 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Secretary of State for taking this late intervention, but he spoke about the ap...
Hilary Benn | 498 c201-2 (Link to this contribution)
As the hon. Gentleman will know, the Severn estuary already has protection under the European habita...
Charles Walker | 498 c201 (Link to this contribution)
Am I right in believing that the Bill will protect the Severn estuary from overdevelopment?
Hilary Benn | 498 c201 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend, and he has played an important part in the process, not least by le...
Russell Brown | 498 c201 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my right hon. Friend for giving way. I also want to thank the Under-Secretary of State for E...
Hilary Benn | 498 c200-1 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
As I was saying, the Bill has long been campaigned for by many peopl...
Hilary Benn | 498 c202-3 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for raising that point and his particular constituency con...
Angela C Smith | 498 c203 (Link to this contribution)
Will my right hon. Friend also pay tribute to the Ramblers Association and the British Mountaineerin...
Hilary Benn | 498 c202 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes an important point, but the Bill is designed to allow such matters to be ad...
Lord Deben | 498 c202 (Link to this contribution)
In talking about the plans for the new management arrangements, will the Secretary of State bear in ...
Ann McKechin | 498 c193-4 (Link to this contribution)
The first batch of renewables has already been started.
Let me also clarify something that we said ...
Linda Gilroy | 498 c193 (Link to this contribution)
Concern was expressed about the capacity that the MMO would have to advise on such matters. Will the...
Ann McKechin | 498 c194 (Link to this contribution)
We will—[Interruption.]
Linda Gilroy | 498 c194 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister is being very generous in giving way. [Interruption.] Will the Renewable Energy Associa...
Ann McKechin | 498 c192-3 (Link to this contribution)
There is an area of doubt, so that possibility cannot be overruled. My hon. Friend raises a point th...
Speaker | 498 c200 (Link to this contribution)
Order. If hon. Members are not staying for this debate, will they please leave quietly and not engag...
Speaker | 498 c194 (Link to this contribution)
Order. Far too many private conversations are taking place in the Chamber at the conclusion of this ...
Ann McKechin | 498 c194 (Link to this contribution)
I can assure my hon. Friend that we will be engaging with the renewable industries on this matter, b...
Lord Benyon | 498 c195 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Member for Reading, West (Martin Salter) paid great tribute to the Under-Secretary of State...
Hilary Benn | 498 c199 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Third time.
This Bill has long been campaigned for by ma...
Nick Ainger | 498 c212-3 (Link to this contribution)
As the coastal path goes through the constituency of the right hon. Member for Suffolk, Coastal (Mr....
Lord Deben | 498 c211-2 (Link to this contribution)
I represent 74 miles of coastline, so for me this is an important Bill. I want to put it on record t...
Alun Michael | 498 c211 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Uxbridge (Mr. Randall) and to agree with his last poi...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 498 c210 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Front Benchers and other hon. Members for their kind words. When my private Member's Bil...
Hilary Benn | 498 c203 (Link to this contribution)
I will readily pay tribute to those organisations, and all the others that time does not allow me to...
Lord Deben | 498 c205 (Link to this contribution)
Is it not disappointing that on two occasions, once today and once yesterday, when the Government ha...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 498 c203-5 (Link to this contribution)
In responding to the Secretary of State, I begin by paying tribute to my hon. Friend the Member for ...
Tom Levitt | 498 c206-8 (Link to this contribution)
I may not be the obvious Member of the House to speak about marine environments or coastal access, b...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 498 c205-6 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with my right hon. Friend. It was a shame that there were, apparently, reasons, I believe th...
Elliot Morley | 498 c209 (Link to this contribution)
I strongly support what the hon. Gentleman says about balance. It is important not only for the fish...
Andrew George | 498 c208-9 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for High Peak (Tom Levitt) and I am certain that his trib...
Andrew George | 498 c209 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman has tremendous experience in this area, and everyone who knows of his contr...
Speaker | 498 c209 (Link to this contribution)
Order. We have to finish this debate at 7 pm and several hon. Members are seeking to catch my eye. I...
Linda Gilroy | 498 c209-10 (Link to this contribution)
The Bill has been one of the most satisfying measures that I have been associated with in 12 and a h...
Andrew George | 498 c182 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is speaking to the PCS, so it would be helpful if he could reassure me that the w...
John McDonnell | 498 c181-2 (Link to this contribution)
I concur, and that message has been relayed to staff at the meetings that they have had with the Min...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 498 c182 (Link to this contribution)
I applaud the representations made by my hon. Friend and others on behalf of the PCS and the work fo...
John McDonnell | 498 c182 (Link to this contribution)
The intention is clear from the Minister's letter, which I have read into the record today, and it w...
Desmond Turner | 498 c183-4 (Link to this contribution)
Other hon. Members have already spelled out what my amendments will do. They are very simple. Their ...
John McDonnell | 498 c182-3 (Link to this contribution)
That is straightforward, and I welcome that commitment. I reiterate that the longer-term future is i...
Desmond Turner | 498 c184 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend has jumped to a point that I was working towards, but I shall turn to it straight awa...
Celia Barlow | 498 c184 (Link to this contribution)
I remember the work that my hon. Friend and I did on that very issue on the Environmental Audit Comm...
John McDonnell | 498 c180-1 (Link to this contribution)
I wish to speak to amendments 45 and 46, which are in my name.
On Government amendment 4, I echo th...
David Drew | 498 c181 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that some of the hurt that was felt was caused by an apparent lack of enga...
John McDonnell | 498 c188 (Link to this contribution)
I want to be clear on this point, because a question has been raised about it. Does that include the...
Ann McKechin | 498 c187-8 (Link to this contribution)
I commend this interesting and well-informed debate, which has been on a number of important clauses...
Desmond Turner | 498 c187 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, I am aware of that agreement, and I use it as support for my case, with which it is perfectly c...
Linda Gilroy | 498 c186-7 (Link to this contribution)
May ask my hon. Friend, as I did my hon. Friend the Member for Southampton, Test (Dr. Whitehead) ear...
Desmond Turner | 498 c186 (Link to this contribution)
I do not believe that there is any problem with the structure. The number of applications in questio...
Roger Williams | 498 c186 (Link to this contribution)
I have been following the hon. Gentleman's argument closely, but as I understand it, the IPC was set...
Desmond Turner | 498 c186 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is entirely right that we must have coherence. I am not, for one moment, diminish...
Desmond Turner | 498 c185 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention, but I do not entirely agree, because that is a fals...
Andrew George | 498 c185 (Link to this contribution)
I presume that the hon. Gentleman is not saying that his proposal would result in a lesser need for ...
Lord Benyon | 498 c184-5 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes many interesting points about renewable energy, but to return to the amendm...
Celia Barlow | 498 c192 (Link to this contribution)
Without going too much into semantic niceties, does my hon. Friend agree that the word "furthering" ...
Ann McKechin | 498 c191-2 (Link to this contribution)
I shall explain in detail why I believe that the amendments would not strengthen the Bill. As a form...
Martin Salter | 498 c190 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister is certainly making a fair fist of moving towards allaying the concerns that a number o...
Ann McKechin | 498 c190 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend raises an important point. We want to get on with the real work and get these plans a...
Andrew George | 498 c191 (Link to this contribution)
What harm would it do to make the changes as proposed by the hon. Member for Newbury? If the Ministe...
Ann McKechin | 498 c188 (Link to this contribution)
That is indeed the case.
I hope that my hon. Friend agrees that his amendments are unnecessary give...
Lord Benyon | 498 c188 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister comment on the points that I made about the number of employees who might transfer...
Ann McKechin | 498 c188-90 (Link to this contribution)
I was coming to the hon. Gentleman's points on that subject. As he is aware, no appointment has been...
Linda Gilroy | 498 c190 (Link to this contribution)
I acknowledge that that is a very wide group. These matters have been quite controversial, however, ...
Ann McKechin | 498 c190 (Link to this contribution)
As far as I am aware, the wording of that clause is not currently part of that organisation's briefi...
Lord Benyon | 498 c177 (Link to this contribution)
Is it not possible that the hon. Gentleman is looking at this down the wrong end of the telescope? T...
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