Planning Bill. Lords Committee stage third day. Clauses 5 to 34 agreed to, with clauses 14, 16, 17, 20, 28 and 33 agreed to as amended.
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Woolmer of Leeds | 704 c662-3 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that mine is not the only voice to speak against the amendments. The Minister will reject the...
Lord Turnbull | 704 c660-1 (Link to this contribution)
I agree that there are two basic issues here. The first is: one House or two? Certain features of ou...
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Earl of Caithness | 704 c661-2 (Link to this contribution)
I support the amendments. I raised the point at Second Reading and was quite vitriolic in saying to ...
Baroness Hamwee | 704 c659-60 (Link to this contribution)
I have been impressed by how the Government have developed the thinking and the debate on this area ...
Lord Berkeley | 704 c660 (Link to this contribution)
I have a couple of amendments in this group. The variety of ideas in the group and the contributions...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 704 c655-8 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my noble friend for his trailer, if I may so describe it, because I think that the ...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 704 c658-9 (Link to this contribution)
Clause 9 is at the heart of the Bill—or at least those parts of it that seek to speed up infrastruct...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 704 c655 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 75:
75: Clause 9, page 5, line 11, at end insert ““for the approval of both Ho...
Earl Cathcart | 704 c654-5 (Link to this contribution)
I shall be brief. When I introduced this group of amendments I said that I hoped it would provoke di...
Lord Burnett | 704 c654 (Link to this contribution)
I want to say one more word about national parks. I chaired the Dartmoor National Park public consul...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 704 c683-4 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 115:
115: Clause 14, page 7, line 30, after ““above”” insert ““or below””
The...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 704 c684 (Link to this contribution)
Ministers in Northern Ireland come and go and it is a long time since I was there, but certainly whe...
Baroness Hamwee | 704 c681 (Link to this contribution)
I have tabled a number of amendments in this group. They pretty much make the same point as that mad...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 704 c681-2 (Link to this contribution)
Amendments Nos. 98, 99 and 105 concern the 12-week notice for judicial review. On the one side this ...
Baroness Andrews | 704 c682-3 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to noble Lords for explaining their concerns and I hope to reassure them that there is...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 704 c683 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Baroness for her reply and her assurance that, where the Government make ...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 704 c666-7 (Link to this contribution)
I had thought that this would be the big debate of the evening, but surprisingly we have run out in ...
Baroness Andrews | 704 c663-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am extremely grateful for this very thoughtful debate on a matter of absolutely central interest t...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 704 c680-1 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 98:
98: Clause 13, page 6, line 31, leave out ““6”” and insert ““12””
The nob...
Lord Patel of Bradford | 704 c667 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move that the House do now resume.
Moved accordingly, and on Question, Motion agreed to.
...
Lord Berkeley | 704 c684-5 (Link to this contribution)
I have one amendment in this group, which would reduce the limit size for generating stations onshor...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 704 c687-8 (Link to this contribution)
I shall make two points, the first of which I have discussed with my noble friend Lord Dixon-Smith. ...
Lord Reay | 704 c686-7 (Link to this contribution)
I am responsible for Amendment No. 24, which would raise the threshold for an onshore wind power sta...
Lord Greaves | 704 c686 (Link to this contribution)
I support the words of the noble Lord, Lord Taylor of Holbeach, about the forthcoming marine Bill an...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 704 c685 (Link to this contribution)
I am responsible for Amendments Nos. 122 and 126, which are designed to address the offshore infrast...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 704 c636 (Link to this contribution)
I had not supposed that my rather naive amendment would provoke such an intense and appropriate deba...
Baroness Andrews | 704 c635 (Link to this contribution)
National policy statements set out the criteria on which decisions are made. The criteria are based ...
Earl of Caithness | 704 c635 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. What happens if the proposed change is politically dri...
Baroness Andrews | 704 c635 (Link to this contribution)
That is my understanding. As this matter raises quite technical issues, I shall send a full letter t...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 704 c636-7 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my noble friend, but he has reinforced the statement that I made some time ago that...
Earl Cathcart | 704 c637-9 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 62:
62: Clause 7, page 4, line 13, at end insert—
““( ) The Secretary of State...
Lord Judd | 704 c639-40 (Link to this contribution)
I shall speak to Amendment No. 74. I declare an interest as the honorary president of the Friends of...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 704 c642-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Amendment No. 72 would merely place in the Bill the requirement for a local consultee, which in m...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 704 c641-2 (Link to this contribution)
I have two amendments in this group but before I come to them perhaps I may say to my noble friend L...
Lord Judd | 704 c645-6 (Link to this contribution)
I shall take the opportunity of the noble Lord’s important remarks to make another point that natura...
Lord Greaves | 704 c643-5 (Link to this contribution)
This is an important group of amendments about consultation and publicity arrangements on national p...
Lord Williamson of Horton | 704 c646 (Link to this contribution)
I support this general collection of amendments, as the noble Lord, Lord Greaves described it. The m...
Lord Greaves | 704 c646 (Link to this contribution)
I agree. It seems to be an oversight, and we hope that the Government will put it right.
Lord Reay | 704 c646 (Link to this contribution)
I support Amendment No. 72, which is tabled in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Cameron. I do not th...
Viscount Colville of Culross | 704 c646-7 (Link to this contribution)
I want to add a few questions to those raised by the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, about consultation. T...
Lord Chorley | 704 c647-8 (Link to this contribution)
I shall speak principally to Amendment No. 74 to Amendment No. 65. I shall start with Amendment No. ...
Lord Judd | 704 c653 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my noble friend for her generous remarks. Her very full response is characteristic of her co...
Baroness Andrews | 704 c648-53 (Link to this contribution)
Noble Lords will forgive me if I feel a schizophrenic because, on the one hand, I am told that I am ...
Lord Burnett | 704 c648 (Link to this contribution)
I will not keep the Committee too long, but I ally myself with the points made by the noble Lord, Lo...
Lord Bridges | 704 c648 (Link to this contribution)
I shall speak briefly on a similar point arising from Amendment No. 62, which states: "““The Secreta...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 704 c654 (Link to this contribution)
I shall be extremely brief. I did not speak on any of the amendments earlier, but, in a funny way, t...
Baroness Andrews | 704 c654 (Link to this contribution)
I am always happy to think about the highly innovative solutions that the noble Lord has to most pro...
Lord Greaves | 704 c653-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am always astonished at the noble Baroness’s ability to find good reasons for opposing what I thin...
Baroness Andrews | 704 c653 (Link to this contribution)
I hear what my noble friend says. As I say, it will be open to the local authority certainly to cons...
Earl Cathcart | 704 c708-9 (Link to this contribution)
I accept that these amendments are probing in nature, and I listened with interest to the questions ...
Lord Adonis | 704 c709 (Link to this contribution)
I say, first, to the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, that my information is that a letter was sent on t...
Baroness Tonge | 704 c707-8 (Link to this contribution)
Resisting the expansion of Heathrow Airport is an article of my political faith, and the Committee o...
Baroness Tonge | 704 c710 (Link to this contribution)
I know that it is late but can the Minister explain why last week the permitted expansion of Stanste...
Baroness Hamwee | 704 c709 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise if I unfairly described what did not happen. I asked Mr McDonnell and his response was, ...
Lord Adonis | 704 c709-10 (Link to this contribution)
I cannot conceive that any letter from my department could be uninteresting, but the fact that a let...
Baroness Hamwee | 704 c711 (Link to this contribution)
I want to know whether or not it was interesting.
I am grateful for the explanation on the first cl...
Baroness Tonge | 704 c710 (Link to this contribution)
I also believe that in Europe the threshold is expressed in air traffic movements—50,000 such moveme...
Lord Adonis | 704 c711 (Link to this contribution)
I have explained the position. I am not familiar with the European regulation to which the noble Bar...
Lord Berkeley | 704 c721 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps the Minister, the noble Lord, Lord Dixon-Smith and I could explore the numbers a little more...
Lord Adonis | 704 c718 (Link to this contribution)
I shall write to my noble friend setting out the full reasons why. Our reasoning is that, as he said...
Lord Berkeley | 704 c718 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that my noble friend does not mind if I ask him a question about his amendment. It seems a li...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 704 c716 (Link to this contribution)
I indicated to my noble friend Lord Berkeley that, as a supporter of the Rail Freight Group, I shoul...
Lord Berkeley | 704 c714-6 (Link to this contribution)
I might as well speak to the amendment moved by the noble Earl, Lord Caithness, and to my Amendments...
Lord Adonis | 704 c716-8 (Link to this contribution)
I have no idea why these amendments are grouped. I thought that it might be because the noble Earl a...
Earl Cathcart | 704 c716 (Link to this contribution)
The amendments tabled by my noble friend Lord Caithness are similar to our earlier Amendment No. 133...
Lord Adonis | 704 c712-3 (Link to this contribution)
In his Amendments Nos. 140 to 143, 170 and 171, my noble friend exempts port operators from having t...
Earl of Caithness | 704 c714 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 144:
144: Clause 24, page 15, line 16, leave out paragraph (a) and insert—
““(...
Lord Berkeley | 704 c714 (Link to this contribution)
I am very grateful to my noble friend for that detailed response. I shall read it with interest, bec...
Lord Woolmer of Leeds | 704 c718 (Link to this contribution)
On a previous amendment the Minister’s noble friend Lord Hunt gave some empirical data to support hi...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 704 c719-20 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 152:
152: Clause 28, page 17, line 39, leave out ““150,000”” and insert ““500,...
Earl of Caithness | 704 c719 (Link to this contribution)
What a horribly disjointed debate we have had. Let us hope the groupings are a bit better in the fut...
Lord Adonis | 704 c719 (Link to this contribution)
I am informed that Crossrail extension is a legal term defined in the Crossrail Act 2008. Alas, I do...
Lord Berkeley | 704 c719 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I may help the noble Baroness. In theory, a new line to Scotland to help the noble Earl, Lor...
Baroness Hamwee | 704 c719 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister might not wish to have the data which seem to be flying towards him at this hour of nig...
Lord Adonis | 704 c719 (Link to this contribution)
I do not have the empirical data to hand but I shall write to my noble friend on the average size of...
Lord Woolmer of Leeds | 704 c718-9 (Link to this contribution)
That is helpful. On the amendment of my noble friend Lord Berkeley and the size of rail freight inte...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 704 c718 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I may explain. Looking back over the past 15 years at what has been approved, about 6 per ce...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 704 c690 (Link to this contribution)
It is a great pleasure to reply to the noble Lord, whose career I have followed with great interest ...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 704 c690 (Link to this contribution)
That was extremely helpful, but it indicates that the change in threshold is more for the benefit of...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 704 c688-90 (Link to this contribution)
Having listened to many hours of debate it is a great pleasure to discuss a very important part of t...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 704 c690 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful to the noble Lord, and I welcome him to the energy Dispatch Box and wish him well...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 704 c690-2 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, that is, I think, the explanation. I move on to amendments moved or spoken to by other noble Lo...
Lord Greaves | 704 c694 (Link to this contribution)
What the Minister said depends on the IPC and MMO coming into existence contemporaneously. If the ma...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 704 c694 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord, Lord Greaves, knows that I cannot respond to that question. I can say that my minist...
Lord Reay | 704 c694 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister is not answering my question. How does he justify describing a wind power project of 50...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 704 c694-6 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord is anxious for me to respond, but he does not give me much time to get to the point. ...
Lord Woolmer of Leeds | 704 c692 (Link to this contribution)
My noble friend may or may not know that I agreed with his noble friend the Minister that this eveni...
Baroness Hamwee | 704 c693 (Link to this contribution)
I am not intervening on the substance but it strikes me that if there is concern about possible conf...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 704 c693 (Link to this contribution)
I should be happy to see the Government’s position in writing, but I hope that the Minister recognis...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 704 c693-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am coming to that, but noble Lords would like me to say a little more about the Marine Management ...
Lord Greaves | 704 c698-9 (Link to this contribution)
I support the general thrust of the amendments moved by the noble Lord, Lord Dixon-Smith. Clause 21 ...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 704 c697-8 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 117B:
117B: Clause 14, page 7, line 35, leave out paragraph (g)
The noble Lor...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 704 c697 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 116 and 117:
116: Clause 14, page 7, line 33, at end insert—
““(ea) the cons...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 704 c696 (Link to this contribution)
That was an even more helpful intervention. Another amendment in the group, Amendment No. 116, propo...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 704 c696-7 (Link to this contribution)
We have had a full discussion about major infrastructure projects in a limited number of fields: gas...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 704 c696 (Link to this contribution)
That was a very friendly intervention, if I may say so.
Lord Berkeley | 704 c696 (Link to this contribution)
I refer my noble friend to Amendment No. 116.
Earl of Caithness | 704 c696 (Link to this contribution)
Can the Minister help me? I might have missed it, but I am having difficulty finding Clause 14(1)(ea...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 704 c696 (Link to this contribution)
I am extremely grateful for that and I will be grateful to get the letter that the noble Lord has ki...
Baroness Hamwee | 704 c704 (Link to this contribution)
Of course I accept that this is a genuine effort to get the balance right. But it is difficult to un...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 704 c702-4 (Link to this contribution)
Although the noble Lord, Lord Dixon-Smith, did not move his amendment, I suspect that we are going t...
Lord Adonis | 704 c701 (Link to this contribution)
I will look at the issue of the A120 and come back to the noble Lord.
Perhaps I may make one commen...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 704 c702 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister. He has dealt with these issues fairly extensively and, at this hour o...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 704 c702 (Link to this contribution)
had given notice of his intention to move Amendment No. 118:
118: Clause 14, page 8, line 2, leave...
Baroness Hamwee | 704 c702 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 119:
119: Clause 14, page 8, line 2, after ““State”” insert ““shall keep under...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 704 c701 (Link to this contribution)
I have no particular desire to fall out with the people of Ramsgate over whether the route to their ...
Lord Adonis | 704 c701 (Link to this contribution)
Despite my extensive brief, I do not have brief on every single A road in the country. I promise to ...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 704 c701 (Link to this contribution)
The A120 runs from the Haven ports of Harwich and Felixstowe. It is supposed to go across country an...
Baroness Hamwee | 704 c706-7 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 135:
135: Clause 22, page 13, line 18, after ““providing”” insert ““and will b...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 704 c704 (Link to this contribution)
We discussed carbon capture storage technology earlier. If it came forward as part of a generating s...
Baroness Hamwee | 704 c705 (Link to this contribution)
I was about to beg to withdraw the amendment but, in response to the Minister, I refuse to be charac...
Baroness Andrews | 704 c705 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 129:
129: Clause 16, page 9, line 12, leave out from ““the”” to ““, or”” in li...
Baroness Hamwee | 704 c704 (Link to this contribution)
If developments are as dramatic as the Minister suggests, they are worthy of their own primary legis...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 704 c705 (Link to this contribution)
I understand that, but we are talking about pressing strategic matters. We know that primary legisla...
Baroness Andrews | 704 c706 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 132:
132: Clause 20, page 11, line 24, after ““pipe-line”” insert ““other than...
Baroness Andrews | 704 c706 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 134:
134: Clause 20, page 12, line 3, leave out ““, and has been granted, for ...
Baroness Andrews | 704 c705 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 130:
130: Clause 17, page 10, leave out lines 4 and 5
On Question, amendment ...
Baroness Andrews | 704 c705-6 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 131:
131: After Clause 19, insert the following new Clause—
““Gas transporter ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 704 c721-2 (Link to this contribution)
This has been an extremely interesting debate. I shall deal with the waste-water amendment first, an...
Baroness Hamwee | 704 c722-3 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 156:
156: Clause 30, page 19, line 5, leave out ““or forms part of””
The nobl...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 704 c722 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 153:
153: Clause 28, page 18, line 2, leave out ““150,000”” and insert ““500,0...
Baroness Hamwee | 704 c723 (Link to this contribution)
It came out of my head.
Lord Dixon-Smith | 704 c723 (Link to this contribution)
We added our name to this amendment which originally came from the Law Society.
Lord Adonis | 704 c724-6 (Link to this contribution)
I shall first deal with Amendments Nos. 156 and 162 of the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, which probe ...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 704 c723-4 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise to the noble Baroness, but my advice was that the Law Society suggested the amendment. A...
Lord Adonis | 704 c726 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 160 and 161:
160: Clause 33, page 21, line 14, leave out ““being made in rel...
Baroness Hamwee | 704 c726 (Link to this contribution)
I will read what the Minister said. One point, which I was trying to write down, seemed circular; I ...
Baroness Pitkeathley | 704 c727 (Link to this contribution)
I should tell the Committee that if the amendment is agreed to, I cannot call Amendments Nos. 164 or...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 704 c727 (Link to this contribution)
My Amendment No. 164 is grouped with Amendment No. 163. It was really prompted by curiosity and by t...
Lord Reay | 704 c726-7 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 163:
163: Clause 34, page 21, line 32, leave out paragraph (d)
The noble Lord...
Lord Adonis | 704 c730 (Link to this contribution)
I shall deal with that point in correspondence if the noble Lord will permit me.
Lord Reay | 704 c730 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Lord for his reply, which I shall study carefully. He mentioned the possi...
Lord Adonis | 704 c728-30 (Link to this contribution)
We are on the last lap—for tonight. I begin with the issue raised by the noble Lord, Lord Reay, on C...
Baroness Hamwee | 704 c727-8 (Link to this contribution)
I have Amendments Nos. 165, 167 and 168 in this group. On Amendment No. 165, I share the concern of ...
Lord Patel of Bradford | 704 c730 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move that the House do now resume.
Moved accordingly, and, on Question, Motion agreed to.
Lord Reay | 704 c730 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister, and on that basis I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment, by leave,...
Lord Woolmer of Leeds | 704 c635 (Link to this contribution)
Is my noble friend saying that if a review of the policy statement takes place, that in itself does ...
Baroness Andrews | 704 c632-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to Members of the Committee for struggling to help me with the clause. I have listened...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 704 c632 (Link to this contribution)
I shall not reply at length to the question of the noble Lord, Lord Woolmer; I am quite happy to lea...
Lord Woolmer of Leeds | 704 c631-2 (Link to this contribution)
It would help me, if not other noble Lords, if the noble Lord, Lord Jenkin, could advise us on the f...
Baroness Andrews | 704 c610 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that the House do now again resolve itself into Committee on this Bill.
Mov...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 704 c610-1 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 41:
41: Clause 5, page 3, line 9, at end insert—
““( ) The policy set out in a...
Lord Turnbull | 704 c612-3 (Link to this contribution)
I suspect that, like other Members of the Committee, I am finding it difficult to fathom the game pl...
Baroness Hamwee | 704 c613 (Link to this contribution)
I, too, join the debate on location and site specificity at the start of the Bill. I take the point ...
Lord Boyd of Duncansby | 704 c611-2 (Link to this contribution)
I oppose these amendments. Indeed, my concern is that the national policy statements might not be sp...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 704 c612 (Link to this contribution)
We touched on this subject on the first day of Committee in the context of the role of the Infrastru...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 704 c616-7 (Link to this contribution)
I shall just comment on one or two points. The noble and learned Lord, Lord Boyd of Duncansby, in ra...
Baroness Andrews | 704 c613-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Dixon-Smith, for giving us an opportunity to have this debate....
Earl Cathcart | 704 c617-20 (Link to this contribution)
At Second Reading the Minister said that, "““national policy statements will be planning documents o...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 704 c620-1 (Link to this contribution)
I rise to speak to the stand-part debate on Clause 12. I start by repeating my mantra that these nat...
Baroness Hamwee | 704 c621 (Link to this contribution)
Six of the amendments in this group are tabled in my name. I shall start with Amendment No. 91, whic...
Lord Tyler | 704 c622 (Link to this contribution)
Despite the safeguards to which the noble and learned Lord, Lord Boyd, referred, which are to some e...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 704 c622-3 (Link to this contribution)
I declare an interest, which is in the register, as a consultant to the Thames Estuary Airport Compa...
Lord Tyler | 704 c623 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord makes my point for me. What comes around goes around. I accept that it may not be pre...
Baroness Andrews | 704 c623-7 (Link to this contribution)
I shall most certainly try to do that, but I do not think that I can improve hugely on my noble frie...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 704 c617 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 42:
42: Clause 5, page 3, line 9, at end insert—
““( ) A statement issued befo...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 704 c627 (Link to this contribution)
I have lit a fuse that has gone off all round the Committee. The anxieties about Clause 12 are very ...
Baroness Hamwee | 704 c628 (Link to this contribution)
I thought that ““continuously”” was a bit hard on the Secretary of State. My Amendment No. 58 refers...
Lord Turnbull | 704 c629 (Link to this contribution)
No case should ever go to the IPC on the basis of a stale NPS. That is the abuse that we want to sto...
Lord Boyd of Duncansby | 704 c629-30 (Link to this contribution)
I think that everybody would agree that there has to be a review process and an obligation to undert...
Lord Bridges | 704 c629 (Link to this contribution)
I intervene briefly and with some hesitation, because I am disturbed equally by the existing text an...
Lord Boyd of Duncansby | 704 c630 (Link to this contribution)
Whatever our respective views on judicial review, its growth is a genie that is out of the bottle. I...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 704 c630 (Link to this contribution)
Does the noble and learned Lord share my feeling—he referred to Clause 13—that with the whole of the...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 704 c631 (Link to this contribution)
It is strange that in this clause the Secretary of State ““must review””, but then you find that it ...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 704 c630-1 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful for that. I apologise for detaining the Committee a moment or two longer. We may ...
Lord Adonis | 704 c710 (Link to this contribution)
I do not think that that is a relevant consideration, as that was the way in which the consent was e...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 704 c720-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Amendments Nos. 154 and 155 are grouped with the government amendment. I was fascinated by what t...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 704 c696 (Link to this contribution)
That is a helpful comment, which sets out a challenge. My difficulty is that the Government have not...
Lord Adonis | 704 c699-701 (Link to this contribution)
I am glad at this late hour to be joining the Committee’s deliberations as we come to the important ...
Earl of Caithness | 704 c636 (Link to this contribution)
I say to my noble friend that I do not want it on the record that I was talking about a politically ...
Lord Boyd of Duncansby | 704 c621-2 (Link to this contribution)
I have two quick points to make. I confess that I do not know enough about the 2003 air transport po...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 704 c628-9 (Link to this contribution)
I share the anxiety of the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, about the word ““continuously”” in the amend...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 704 c692-3 (Link to this contribution)
That is a very fair intervention from my noble friend. I can certainly promise him long and interest...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 704 c627-8 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 56:
56: Clause 6, page 3, line 32, at end insert—
““( ) The Secretary of State...
Lord Berkeley | 704 c711-2 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 140:
140: Clause 23, page 15, line 5, at end insert—
““( ) The construction or...
Lord Reay | 704 c693 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister did not refer to my Amendment No. 124 on onshore wind farms, and he certainly did not a...
Lord Colwyn | 704 c639 (Link to this contribution)
I wish to say a few words about my Amendment No. 65A. The question of health hazards from power line...
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