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Welfare Reform Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 19 March 2007, in the House of Lords.
Welfare Reform Bill. Lords Report stage. Part 2 of 3 records.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

690 c1053-84 

Session

2006-07

Legislative stage

Report stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Welfare Reform Bill. As amended in Grand Committee.
Thursday, 1 March 2007
Bills
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 690 c1082-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we believe that people with mental health problems and those with fluctuating conditions w...
Baroness Meacher | 690 c1080-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 50: 50: Schedule 2 , page 55, line 30, at end insert— ““Holding periods (1) Su...

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Baroness Thomas of Winchester | 690 c1082 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we support the amendment. The linking rules are extremely welcome, particularly the relati...
Baroness Thomas of Winchester | 690 c1080 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the other matter, which takes us back to an earlier amendment, is that job centres must te...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 690 c1078-80 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness for raising this amendment again and for giving us the opportun...
Baroness Thomas of Winchester | 690 c1080 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for that very full explanation. I should like to add two things. Firs...
Baroness Thomas of Winchester | 690 c1076-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 49: 49: After Clause 21 , insert the following new Clause— ““Prescription char...
Lord Skelmersdale | 690 c1078 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this subject has been covered more than once in previous stages of the Bill. I recall the ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 690 c1076 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his response to the probing amendment. Also, the House should be ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 690 c1068-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I understand the thrust of the point. No one is saying that if the work-focused health-rel...
Baroness Thomas of Winchester | 690 c1069 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his further explanation. Will he leave the channels of dialogue o...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 690 c1066-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first, I acknowledge the genuine concern that some noble Lords have about how this will wo...
Baroness Thomas of Winchester | 690 c1068 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if the work-focused health-related assessment uncovers the need for some intervention in t...
Lord Skelmersdale | 690 c1070-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 46: 46: Clause 15, page 12, line 43, at end insert ““, excluding functions und...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 690 c1069 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are very keen to continue dialogue on these matters. Much work is taking place, particu...
Baroness Thomas of Winchester | 690 c1069-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Clause 12 [Work-r...
Baroness Meacher | 690 c1065-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in supporting this amendment, I thank the Minister for our very helpful discussion. I beli...
Lord Skelmersdale | 690 c1064 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, seldom has a probe been quite so successful. That will satisfy my correspondent no end, es...
Lord Skelmersdale | 690 c1072-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am rather nonplussed, I must admit. I assume that when the Minister comes back at Third ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 690 c1073 (Link to this contribution) moved AmendmentNo. 48: 48: Clause 19, page 16, line 43, at end insert— ““( ) Regulations may provi...
Lord Addington | 690 c1073 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment No. 48 seems remarkably familiar. I have used similar arguments since this came ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 690 c1073-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, let me see if I can give noble Lords the clarifications they wish in this area. The amendm...
Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope | 690 c1074-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the Minister sits down I would like to intervene briefly in support of the amendmen...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 690 c1075-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree entirely that we should do all we can to ensure that our customers are made fully ...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 690 c1071 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we on these Benches stand shoulder to shoulder with the official Opposition. Our names are...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 690 c1071-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank noble Lords for setting out their concerns. By this stage, we are all familiar wit...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 690 c1072 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, is the noble Lord accepting the amendment?
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 690 c1072 (Link to this contribution) No, my Lords, I am not. However, I will explain precisely how we intend to carry forward what I have...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 690 c1062 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, is not the Minister effectively saying not only that many of those personal advisers would...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 690 c1061 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I have not been as clear as I should have been on the practical implications. We a...
Lord Skelmersdale | 690 c1062 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this discussion is rapidly beginning to sound like one that we would have in Committee. Th...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 690 c1062 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I meant that if somebody chooses to appeal a decision, the position of the adviser may be ...
Lord Skelmersdale | 690 c1062 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendment has elicited more information than I had expected. If there are 300,000 asse...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 690 c1062 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I endorse what my noble friend said. We need to think also about the cost. We are looking ...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 690 c1063-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Government understand the wish to ensure proper support and advocacy for employment an...
Lord Skelmersdale | 690 c1063 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 37: 37: Clause 11, page 9, line 43, at end insert— ““( ) for the role of carer...
Lord Skelmersdale | 690 c1063 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that added information gives me a fraction more hope. The Minister has finally driven me o...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 690 c1062-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may stress the risk of upsetting the balance between resources carefully allocat...
Lord Skelmersdale | 690 c1061 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I should have read out the amendment, because the argument that the Minister has j...
Baroness Meacher | 690 c1057 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, what depth of training will these people receive? It is just not the same thing if someone...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 690 c1058-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I listened carefully to the Minister’s remarks and I thank her for suggesting that there m...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 690 c1057-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that I can reassure the noble Baroness further. When I talk about Atos Origin docto...
Lord Skelmersdale | 690 c1059-60 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 31: 31: Clause 10 , page 9, line 12, after ““professional”” insert ““and a per...
Baroness Meacher | 690 c1059 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, thank the Minister for her comments and her agreement to take the issues away to r...
Lord Addington | 690 c1060 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I add my support to this. The WFHRA sounds like some appalling terrorist group—
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 690 c1060-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the work-focused health-related assessment—or WFHRA, as it is becoming called—will look at...
Lord Addington | 690 c1060 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, yes it may. If you brought in the advisers while you tried to discover somebody’s capacity...
Lord Skelmersdale | 690 c1057 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there can be no dispute of the need for healthcare professionals to be properly trained in...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 690 c1057 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment No. 29 would ensure that healthcare professionals carrying out work-focused heal...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 690 c1056 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment in the names of the noble Baroness, Lady Meacher, my noble friend ...
Baroness Meacher | 690 c1055-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 29: 29: Clause 10 , page 9, line 12, after ““a”” insert ““suitably qualified””...
Lord Addington | 690 c1055 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think that that was close to saying there is some flexibility, but we will have to have ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 690 c1055 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, five working days is the period in which a response is required and is a reasonable period...
Lord Addington | 690 c1055 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, is the five days a guideline or an absolute, which is important for both of us?
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 690 c1054-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the work-focused health-related assessment is a key component of providing support to retu...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 690 c1053-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend and I have tabled Amendment No. 23 in response to concerns that have been ...
Lord Addington | 690 c1053 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 22: 22: Clause 10 , page 8, line 25, leave out ““within a prescribed period, s...
Baroness Meacher | 690 c1084 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his comments. It is regrettable that he did not address the conse...
Baroness Meacher | 690 c1084 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, with those assurances, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdr...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 690 c1084 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Government want this to work. That is why the linking rules are in place. We will cont...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 690 c1084 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that further consideration on Report be now adjourned. In moving this Motion...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 690 c1080 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as I recall, that is precisely what the review is about, as well as simplifying the proces...
Baroness Thomas of Winchester | 690 c1064-5 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 40: 40: Clause 11, page 10, line 34, at end insert— ““( ) Where a work-focused...
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