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Identity Cards Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Wednesday, 14 December 2005, in the House of Lords.

Identity Cards Bill. Lords Committee stage fifth day. Clauses 8 to 23 agreed to.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

676 c1333-56

Session

2005-06

Department

Home Office

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber

Identity Cards Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory notes HL Bill 28-EN also published.
Wednesday, 19 October 2005
Bills
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Selsdon | 676 c1348 (Link to this contribution) In my research days, the census was absolutely critical. I got an awful shock when we found that an ...

Earl of Northesk | 676 c1348 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend’s amendment undoubtedly has considerable potentially beneficial effects. Nevertheles...

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Lord Lucas | 676 c1349 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted by that reply. The noble Baroness has basically confirmed that universities can have ...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1348-9 (Link to this contribution) We agree that the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, has raised a very interesting point. I do not think that h...

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1349-50 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 217:"Page 20, line 33, leave out paragraph (c)." The noble Baroness said: Amend...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1350 (Link to this contribution) I have the second amendment in the group, Amendment No. 218. If the noble Baroness’s amendment is th...

Earl of Northesk | 676 c1350-2 (Link to this contribution) I speak to Amendment No. 219, which would insert the new clause printed on the Marshalled List. As o...

Lord Crickhowell | 676 c1352-3 (Link to this contribution) At this stage in our proceedings, I shall try to be brief. I am considerably attracted by the new cl...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1353-6 (Link to this contribution) I would hate to disappoint either the noble Lord, Lord Crickhowell, or the noble Earl, Lord Northesk...

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1356 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that we are in a forgiving mood. Certainly, it would be churlish to pursue Amendment No. 2...

Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1356 (Link to this contribution) After a good day’s work, I beg to move that the House do now resume. Moved accordingly, and on Ques...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1356 (Link to this contribution) It is five minutes to ten o’clock. The answer will take a little time. I could do it now, but nobody...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1333-5 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 210ZA:"Page 18, line 35, leave out ““person”” and insert ““public authority””" ...

Countess of Mar | 676 c1335 (Link to this contribution) I remind the noble Lord that he is moving the first amendment and speaking to the rest for the momen...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1338 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for those comments. As the noble Baroness was speaking I reflected whether, as regards...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1338 (Link to this contribution) Under Clause 20(4), paragraph 9 information is available in the case of serious crime.

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1338 (Link to this contribution) So the information could be provided in a murder case, but in one of the cases the noble Baroness me...

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1338-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 214:"Page 19, line 23, at end insert—" ““( ) Where subsection (2) applies,...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1337 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister and am content to withdraw on that basis. I would be grateful if she c...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1337 (Link to this contribution) I believe that that is the case, but I assure the noble Lord that, as it is our intent that private ...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1337 (Link to this contribution) No, I am sorry if I did not make myself clear. I intended to speak to Amendment No. 211A, which woul...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1337-8 (Link to this contribution) In that case, the noble Lord will not get a clean sweep, which I believed we might have succeeded in...

Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1339-40 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness has kindly explained her amendment, which she has described perfectly well. I sha...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1335-7 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the noble Lord, Lord Phillips of Sudbury, will feel that his virtue and persistence will...

Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1342 (Link to this contribution) I would have assumed—I may be wrong—that such a discrepancy would be deemed significant. As I said e...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1342 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness will want to be sure that there is the power to do that; this is a technical Bill...

Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1342 (Link to this contribution) The two noble Lords should have a meeting after this and perhaps thrash out the matter between them....

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1342 (Link to this contribution) What if the register itself made a mistake? What if, for example, it matched a fingerprint check wro...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1343-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 215:"Page 20, line 11, at end insert—" ““( ) Details of all authorisations...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1344-5 (Link to this contribution) I hope that I will be able to reassure the noble Lord. We believe that Clause 22 is necessary to ens...

Lord Bassam of Brighton | 676 c1343 (Link to this contribution) As I said, the Data Protection Act itself provides a regime that covers circumstances like this.

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1343 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord’s closing remarks do not quite cover the whole intent behind the amendment. As my nob...

Lord Selsdon | 676 c1341-2 (Link to this contribution) I had not intended to intervene, but people like me who have been involved in the information and re...

Lord Crickhowell | 676 c1340-1 (Link to this contribution) I have attached my name to this amendment. I listened to the Minister with care. It seemed to me tha...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1346 (Link to this contribution) As I have said already, there will be an audit log which will log every occasion when information is...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1346 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [A...

Lord Lucas | 676 c1346-7 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 216A: After Clause 22, insert the following new clause— ““POWER TO AUTHORISE ...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1347 (Link to this contribution) Can I be clear that this amendment applies only to the provision of dissociated information or rando...

Lord Lucas | 676 c1347 (Link to this contribution) Possibly it does, in the way it is written, although that was not the way I intended it. I intended ...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1347 (Link to this contribution) Sadly, it does not. I was getting quite excited when I thought it did, and then the noble Lord came ...

Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 676 c1347-8 (Link to this contribution) Like the noble Lord, Lord Phillips, I got excited by my noble friend’s amendment and was disappointe...

Lord Selsdon | 676 c1345 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness kindly mentioned one of my favourite subjects which is emergency services and the...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1345-6 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for her response. My concerns are largely assuaged. I confirm my under...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 676 c1345 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Selsdon, will know from our earlier debates that, provided those areas have bee...

Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 676 c1356 (Link to this contribution) In regard to my Amendment No. 218 to Clause 23(4)(a)—the Minister may not want to answer this here a...

Baroness Seccombe | 676 c1335 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Phillips, made some interesting points in regard to his two starred amendments,...

Subjects

Disclosure of information

Biometrics

Crime prevention

Costs

British nationality

Fraud

Fees and charges

Identity cards

Information

Proof of identity

Passports

Registration

Research

Revenue and Customs

Legislation

Identity Cards Bill 2005-06

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