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Charities Bill [HL]

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 18 October 2005, in the House of Lords.
Charities Bill (HL). Lords report stage second day.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

674 c680-733 

Session

2005-06

Department

Home Office

Legislative stage

Report stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Charities Bill (HL). As amended in Committee.
Tuesday, 12 July 2005
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper HDEP 2005/531
Tuesday, 8 November 2005
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Deposited Paper HDEP 2005/532
Tuesday, 8 November 2005
Deposited papers
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c698-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 68:"Page 105, line 25, leave out ““the address of its principal office”” and ins...
Earl of Caithness | 674 c699 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if it is a burden on charities to have to write a new constitution every time they move th...

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Earl of Caithness | 674 c699 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, with respect, and before the Minister sits down, if he is trying to be helpful, it would b...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c699 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not sure how many times this occurs. It may be a minor inconvenience, but we are tryi...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 674 c700 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 69:"Page 111, line 21, leave out from ““subject”” to end of line 22 and insert “...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c699 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will happily take the point away and we shall think about it. I do not think that it wil...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 674 c701 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I confess that I did not understand the justification given by the Minister unless it were...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c700-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the purpose of subsection (9) of the new Section 69I is to make it clear that liabilities ...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 674 c702 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for bringing forward the amendments. I express one hope. Six...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c701-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 70:"Page 114, line 10, at end insert—" ““(7A)   If the Commission does not not...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 674 c694 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think that I received the briefing to which everyone is referring. I hope that th...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 674 c696 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when the Government come to look at the regulations, would they be prepared to give attent...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c695-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like the noble Lord, Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, I have some sympathy with what the no...
Earl of Caithness | 674 c694-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in defence of surveyors, I would merely point out to the noble Lord, Lord Phillips, that i...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c697-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 66:"Page 98, line 9, leave out ““applies”” and insert ““, is to be treated as fo...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c697 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 65:"Page 98, line 8, leave out ““to which”” and insert ““which, by virtue of””" ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c696 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that might best be expedited through some reference to sell-on clauses and so forth. It is...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c698 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 67:"Page 102, leave out lines 36 to 38." The noble Lord said: My Lords, in movi...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 674 c705-7 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 83:"Page 42, leave out lines 38 to 40." The noble Lord said: My Lords, I rise t...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 674 c707 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sympathetic to what the noble Lord, Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbots, has said, and to m...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c707-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, for his explanation of th...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 674 c709-10 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am extremely grateful to the Minister for the careful consideration he has given to the ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 674 c713 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to the noble Lord and I accept that invitation. There are some other as...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c713 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my original speaking note started with the legend ““Resist””, but having listened to the r...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 674 c711 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have only one point on the Minister’s very clear explanation of this group of amendments...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c710-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 85:"Page 46, line 20, at end insert—" ““(4A)   In the case of a merger involvi...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 674 c712-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 86:"Page 46, line 21, leave out from ““above”” to end of line 22 and insert ““sh...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c711-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord for his question. Charities which merge will want to make ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c702 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am tempted to make a cheap comment about the length of the period that it takes to choos...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c703 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 71 to 74:"Page 114, leave out line 11 and insert ““If the resolution is confir...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 674 c702 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, a week is a long time in politics.
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c704-5 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 82:"Page 38, line 23, leave out ““sent to”” and insert ““received by””" The nob...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 674 c704 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister and I understand the issue of charities A, B and C. I hope t...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c704 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall try to deal with this tectonic fare as rapidly as I can. The noble Lord is right: ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c703 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 75 to 78:"Page 35, leave out lines 21 to 25 and insert—" ““(b)   a person ap...
Lord Best | 674 c689-92 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 64:"After Clause 26, insert the following new clause—"    ““SALE OF FUNCTIONAL...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 674 c692-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Best, for having raised this important issue. It is ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 674 c687 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I largely agree with what the noble Lord, Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbots, has just said. Th...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c687-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have spent a long time discussing the appointment of interim managers during the passag...
Lord Swinfen | 674 c689 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken on the amendment. My noble friend said that the dr...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c684-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Swinfen, has steadfastly raised the issue at every stage of the Bill’...
Lord Swinfen | 674 c685 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I note what the Minister says. I hope that, when ensuring that sufficient time is given fo...
Lord Swinfen | 674 c685-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 63:"After Clause 26, insert the following new clause—"    ““RECEIVER AND MANAG...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 674 c686-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend has brought to our attention an important point. It has obviously caused a...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c733 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 118: "Line 2, leave out ““Appeal””" On Question, amendment agreed to.
Lord Sainsbury of Preston Candover | 674 c723-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I put my name to the amendment for three reasons. First, as my noble friend Lord Hodgson s...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c721 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 101:"Page 143, line 31, leave out paragraph 125 and insert—" ““(1)   Section 3...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 674 c721-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 102:"Page 143, line 36, at end insert—" ““(   )   In subsection (2), at the en...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c720 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 96:"Page 56, line 37, leave out ““consents”” and insert ““trustees consent””" O...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c719 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 95:"Page 56, line 33, leave out paragraph (a) and insert—" ““(a)   each of the...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 674 c716 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to the Minister. Without having moved Amendment No. 88, I accept his ki...
Earl of Caithness | 674 c716 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that when we come to Amendment No. 88, we, too, will be entitled to know what the p...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 674 c716 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, is the noble Earl sure that he wants to listen to that explanation at this time of day? In...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 674 c718 (Link to this contribution) had given notice of his intention to move Amendment No. 88:"Page 46, line 34, leave out from first “...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 674 c713-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 87:"Page 46, line 32, at end insert—" ““(   )   Where the statement in subsect...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 674 c714-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord Phillips, said, my name is down to Amendment No. 87. I wish to add...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c715-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am obviously very much in the hands of the House. As regards Amendment No. 88, I was goi...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 674 c715 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. I did not move the second amendment in the...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 674 c732 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Lord sits down, I am grateful for what he said. Will he give the House an...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c731-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the thing is that weasely words have a value, and we all know that. I am not going to hove...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c730 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 108 and 109:"Page 158, column 2, leave out line 43 and insert—"
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c729 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 105:"Page 151, line 30, leave out ““““70”””” and insert ““““17(2),””””" The nob...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c729 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 106:"Page 153, line 38, leave out ““Appeal””" On Question, amendment agreed to....
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c729-30 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 107:"Page 154, line 19, at end insert—" (1)   Section 79 of the Deregulation a...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 674 c726-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who spoke in support of the amendment; namely, my noble f...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c726 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord is perfectly at liberty to invite me to do that, but I am equally at libert...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 674 c726 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I invite the Minister to consider the language of, say, sale of goods legislation, which i...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 674 c682 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister and the Government for taking up my amendment and producing the one b...
Lord Swinfen | 674 c682-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 62:"After Clause 26, insert the following new clause—"    ““RIGHT OF REPLY TO ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 674 c683-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I regret to say that I cannot support the noble Lord, Lord Swinfen, in his amendment, alth...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c680 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on behalf of my noble friend Lady Scotland of Asthal I beg to move that the Bill be now fu...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c680-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 61:"After Clause 26, insert the following new clause—"    ““RESTRICTIONS ON MO...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c733 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 113 to 116: "Page 74, line 7, leave out ““legislation”” and insert ““enactmen...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c733 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 117: "Page 74, line 30, leave out ““or 74””" On Question, amendment agreed to....
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 674 c724 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I strongly support the tenor of the amendment. We spent a lot of time earlier in the Bill’...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c721 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 100:"Page 73, line 31, leave out ““contains repeals, including repeals of spent ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c720-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 99:"Page 59, line 42, after ““application”” insert ““within the prescribed perio...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c720 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 97:"Page 58, line 24, leave out ““Appeal””" On Question, amendment agreed to. ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c718-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 89 to 94:"Page 47, line 11, leave out ““subsection (3)”” and insert ““subsecti...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c715 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall address both amendments. Amendment No. 87 seeks to add to the general law as regar...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 674 c733 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is nice to respond to the last group of amendments on Report by saying how strongly one...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c732 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 111: "Page 161, line 14, leave out paragraph 12 and insert—" ““12      Sectio...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c732 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord knows that I cannot go around interfering in the detailed staffing of the C...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 674 c731 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my question follows to some extent what the noble Lord, Lord Phillips, said. I understand ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 674 c731 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am indeed going to support the amendment with enthusiasm so long as I have an assurance ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c730-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 110: "Page 159, line 22, at end insert—"    Any consultation initiated by the...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c729 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 104:"Page 148, line 25, after ““Commissioners”””” insert ““(in the first place)”...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c729 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 103:"Page 145, line 18, leave out sub-paragraph (4) and insert—" ““(   )   Omi...
Earl of Caithness | 674 c724-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this was discussed at various meetings of the pre-legislative scrutiny committee. I see th...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c725-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Hodgson, for moving the amendment and to other noble...
Lord Best | 674 c696-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very grateful to noble Lords for expressing their views on this matter and for all th...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c720 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 98:"Page 59, line 29, leave out subsection (4) and insert—" ““(4)   Where an a...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c732-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 112: "Page 74, line 5, leave out ““an Act”” and insert—" ““(a)   a single Act...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 674 c703 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 79:"Page 36, line 2, leave out ““73D”” and insert ““73DA””" On Question, amendm...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 674 c703-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 80:"Page 37, line 39, after ““charity”” insert ““or charities””" The noble Lord...