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Online Safety Bill

Lords committee stage tenth day. Clauses 146 to 159 agreed to. Clause 160, as amended, agreed to. Clause 161 agreed to. Clause 162, as amended, agreed to. Clause 163 agreed to. Clause 164, as amended, agreed to. New clause agreed to. Clauses 165 and 166, as amended, agreed to. Clause 167 agreed to. Clauses 168 and 169, as amended, agreed to. Schedule 14, as amended, agreed to. Clause 170 agreed to. Clause 171, as amended, agreed to. Clauses 172 to 174 agreed to. Schedule 15 agreed to. Clauses 175 and 176 agreed to. New clause agreed to. Clauses 177 to 179 agreed to. Clauses 180 and 181, as amended, agreed to. Clauses 182 to 185 agreed to. Schedule 16 agreed to. Clauses 186 and 187 agreed to. Schedule 17, as amended, agreed to. Clause 188, as amended, agreed to. Clauses 189 to 201 agreed to. Clauses 202 and 203, as amended, agreed to. Clauses 204 to 209 agreed to. Clause 210, as amended, agreed to. Clauses 211 and 212 agreed to. Bill reported with amendments (HL Bill 151). (Part 2 of 2).

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Reference

831 cc384-450 

Session

2022-23

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Committee stage

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New clauses

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House of Lords chamber
Online Safety Bill 2021-22 to 2022-23. Brought from the Commons.
Wednesday, 18 January 2023
Bills
House of Lords
Online Safety Bill
Thursday, 22 June 2023
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Lords
Online Safety Bill 2021-22 to 2022-23. As amended in Committee.
Thursday, 22 June 2023
Bills
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Deposited Paper DEP2023-0709
Monday, 4 September 2023
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Proceeding contributions

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 831 c385 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Knight of Weymouth

230: Clause 146, page 128, line 35, leave out from “...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 831 cc385-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Stevenson, who tabled this amendment, unfortunately cannot be with...


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Baroness Barker | 831 c386 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I must advise the Committee that if Amendment 230 is agreed to then I cannot call Amend...

Lord Allan of Hallam | 831 cc386-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are reaching the end of our Committee debates, but I am pleased that we have some ti...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 831 cc388-390 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 233 and 234 from the noble Lord, Lord Knight of Weymouth, were well motivate...

Lord Bethell | 831 cc390-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest as a trustee of the International Centre for the Study of Radical...

Baroness Kidron | 831 cc392-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too want to support this group of amendments, particularly Amendment 234, and will ma...

Baroness Harding of Winscombe | 831 c393 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, support Amendments 233 and 234, and Amendment 233A, from the noble Lord, Lord A...

Lord Clement-Jones | 831 cc393-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble Baroness, Lady Kidron, said, clearly, transparency is absolutely one of th...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 cc395-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Government are supportive of improving data sharing and encouraging greater collabo...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 831 c396 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister succeeds in disappointing us, can he clarify something for us? Once Ofcom has...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 cc396-7 (Link to this contribution)

It is guidance rather than direction, but it will be done openly and transparently. Users will be...

Baroness Kidron | 831 c397 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder whether the Minister has an answer to the academic community, who now see their European...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 c397 (Link to this contribution)

We are very aware that we are not the only jurisdiction looking at the important issues the Bill ...

Lord Allan of Hallam | 831 c397 (Link to this contribution)

I do not expect the Minister to have an answer to this today, but it will be useful to get this o...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 c397 (Link to this contribution)

We are watching with interest what is happening in other jurisdictions. If I can furnish the Comm...

Lord Clement-Jones | 831 c397 (Link to this contribution)

I have a question, in that case, in respect of the jurisdictions. Why should we have weaker power...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 c397 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think that we do. We are doing things differently. Of course, Ofcom will be looking at a...

Lord Clement-Jones | 831 c398 (Link to this contribution)

But surely, there is no backstop power. There is the review but there is no backstop which would ...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 c398 (Link to this contribution)

We will know once Ofcom has completed its research and examination of these complex issues; we wo...

Lord Clement-Jones | 831 c398 (Link to this contribution)

Again, that would require primary legislation.

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 c398 (Link to this contribution)

With that, if there are no further questions, I invite the noble Lord to withdraw his amendment.<...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 831 c398 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this was a short but important debate with some interesting exchanges at the end. The n...

Baroness Merron | 831 cc398-9 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Merron

242: Before Clause 148, insert the following new Clause—

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Baroness Merron | 831 c399 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am pleased to speak to Amendments 242, 243 and 245, which have been tabled in the nam...

Lord Clement-Jones | 831 c400 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I congratulate the noble Baroness on having elucidated this arcane set of amendments. U...

Baroness Kidron | 831 c400 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I enter the fray with some trepidation. In a briefing, Carnegie, which we all love and ...

Viscount Camrose | 831 cc400-1 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all those who have spoken, and I very much appreciate the spirit in which the amendments ...

Baroness Merron | 831 c401 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister. I will take that as a no—but a very well-considered no, ...

Lord Clement-Jones | 831 c402 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Clement-Jones

264A: Clause 160, page 138, line 10, at end insert “inclu...

Lord Clement-Jones | 831 cc402-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, even by the standards of this Bill, this is a pretty diverse group of amendments. I am ...

Baroness Buscombe | 831 cc404-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 266 and 267, to which my noble and learned friend Lord Garn...

Lord Garnier | 831 c405 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to add to what my noble friend Lady Buscombe has just said, but I can do so a li...

Lord Moylan | 831 cc405-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, said, this is a very broad group, so I hope nobl...

Lord Garnier | 831 c409 (Link to this contribution)

Does my noble friend agree with me that our courts are constantly looking into the state of mind ...

Lord Moylan | 831 c409 (Link to this contribution)

I did not say that it would be impossible for a court to do this; I said it was likely to lead to...

Lord Allan of Hallam | 831 cc410-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to reflect on the comments that the noble Lord, Lord Moylan, has just put to us....

Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 831 cc413-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have two amendments in this grouping. I am afraid that I did not have time to get oth...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 831 cc415-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will address my remarks to government Amendment 268AZA and its consequential amendmen...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 831 cc416-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group relates to communications offences. I will speak in support of Amendment 265...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 831 cc419-420 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, said in introducing this group some time ago, it...

Baroness Merron | 831 cc420-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble Baroness, Lady Bennett, said, it seems a very long time since we heard the...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 cc422-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a broad and mixed group of amendments. I will be moving the amendments in...

Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 831 c424 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister. I was not imagining that the formulations that I played with fulfi...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 cc424-5 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, we will ensure that, in looking at this in the context of Scots law, we have the opportunity...

Lord Clement-Jones | 831 c425 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt the Minister, but the Law Commission recommended that the DPP’s consent s...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 c425 (Link to this contribution)

The Law Commission recommended that the consent, but not the personal consent, of the Director of...

Lord Allan of Hallam | 831 c425 (Link to this contribution)

I completely accept that, yes, by requiring the regulated services to prevent access to this kind...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 c426 (Link to this contribution)

I will follow up in writing on that point.

Before I conclude, I will mention briefly the fu...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 831 c426 (Link to this contribution)

Just before the Minister sits down—I assume that he has finished his brief on the self-harm amend...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 c426 (Link to this contribution)

I will have to write on the second point to try to set that out in further detail. On the questio...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 831 c426 (Link to this contribution)

It needs to be addressed, because these very small websites already alluded to are providing some...

Lord Moylan | 831 c427 (Link to this contribution)

Some of us are slightly disappointed that my noble friend did not respond to my point on the inte...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 c427 (Link to this contribution)

If my noble friend will forgive me, I had better refresh my memory of what he said—it was some ti...

Lord Clement-Jones | 831 c427 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will be extremely brief. There is much to chew on in the Minister’s speech and this w...

Lord Lexden | 831 c427 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I now have to go through a mass of amendments that are not to be the subject of debate ...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 cc427-8 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

267A: Clause 160, page 138, line 25, leave out...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 c428 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

267B: Clause 162, page 139, line 38, after “co...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 c428 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

268A: Clause 164, page 142, line 30, leave out...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 cc429-430 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

268AZA: After Clause 164, insert the following...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 cc430-1 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

268B: Clause 165, page 142, line 32, leave out...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 cc431-2 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

268FA: Clause 166, page 143, line 10, leave ou...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 c432 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

271A: Clause 168, page 144, line 17, after “Wa...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 cc432-3 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

271BA: Clause 169, page 144, line 25, at end i...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 cc433-4 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

271C: Schedule 14, page 231, line 33, leave ou...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 c435 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

283A: Clause 171, page 145, line 43, at end in...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 cc435-6 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

284A: After Clause 176, insert the following n...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 c436 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

284B: Clause 180, page 150, line 23, leave out...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 c436 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

284D: Clause 181, page 150, line 29, at end in...

Lord Lexden | 831 c437 (Link to this contribution)

Land is in sight! I call Amendment 286ZA.

Amendment 286ZA

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 831 c437 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Knight of Weymouth

286ZA: After Clause 184, insert the following new Cl...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 831 cc437-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that was a bravura performance by the noble Lord, Lord Lexden. We thank him. To those l...

Lord Clement-Jones | 831 c438 (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord agree that the fact that we did not notice his speech was generated by AI som...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 831 c438 (Link to this contribution)

The fact that I labelled it as being AI-generated helped your Lordships to understand, and the tr...

Baroness Kidron | 831 cc438-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Knight, for laying out the amendment and recognise that th...

Lord Allan of Hallam | 831 cc439-440 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Kidron. I will try to keep my remar...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 831 cc440-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Allan. He reminded me of significant re...

Lord Clement-Jones | 831 c442 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a real hit-and-run operation from the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson. He has put do...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 cc442-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson of Balmacara, is smiling over a sherry somewhere ab...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 831 c443 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to everyone for that interesting and quick debate. It is occasionally one...

Lord Allan of Hallam | 831 c443 (Link to this contribution)

Can the noble Lord confirm whether he generated those comments himself, or was he on his phone wh...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 831 c443 (Link to this contribution)

I do not have an invisible earpiece feeding me my lines—that was all human-generated. I beg leave...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 c444 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

286A: Schedule 17, page 239, line 36, after “1...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 c444 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

286B: Clause 188, page 154, line 1, after “119...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 cc444-5 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

290A: Clause 202, page 166, line 3, leave out ...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 c445 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

290H: Clause 203, page 167, line 38, at end in...

Baroness Kidron | 831 c446 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Kidron

297: Clause 207, page 170, line 13, leave out from “means” t...

Baroness Kidron | 831 cc446-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we already had a long debate on this subject earlier in Committee. In the interim, many...

Lord Clement-Jones | 831 c447 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I associate these Benches with the introduction by the noble Baroness, Lady Kidron, sup...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 831 c447 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, what more can I say than that I wish to be associated with the comments made by the nob...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 cc447-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the noble Baroness for her amendment, which is a useful opportunity for us ...

Baroness Kidron | 831 c448 (Link to this contribution)

I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 c448 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

304A: Clause 210, page 175, line 24, leave out...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 cc448-9 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

304CA: Clause 210, page 175, line 29, leave ou...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 831 cc449-450 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

304E: Clause 210, page 175, line 35, leave out...

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