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Illegal Migration Bill

Lords committee stage fourth day. Clauses 21 to 28 agreed to. (Part 1 of 2).

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830 cc1671-1731 

Session

2022-23

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Committee stage

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New clauses

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House of Lords chamber

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Deposited Paper DEP2023-0630
Monday, 3 July 2023
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House of Lords

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Lord Coaker | 830 c1672 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Coaker

85: Clause 21, page 25, line 32, leave out from “applies” to “su...

Lord Coaker | 830 cc1672-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare my interest as a trustee of the Human Trafficking Foundation and the work tha...


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Lord Carlile of Berriew | 830 cc1676-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Alton unfortunately cannot be with us today and has asked me to sp...

Baroness Hamwee | 830 cc1678-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have Amendment 85D in this group and have added my name to Amendment 85C from the nob...

Bishop of Southwark | 830 cc1679-1680 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 88 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, is supported by my right rever...

Baroness Whitaker | 830 c1680 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, all the amendments in this group are very serious contributions to improving the Bill, ...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 830 cc1681-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have tabled Amendments 97 and 98 in respect of Clauses 27 and 28. I commend the repor...

Lord Morrow | 830 cc1683-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, many Peers spoke at Second Reading about their concerns over the modern slavery amendme...

Baroness Meacher | 830 c1685 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak briefly, but I hope strongly, to support the intention of the noble Baron...

Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 830 cc1685-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I start by declaring an interest as the deputy chair of the Human Trafficking Foundatio...

Lord McColl of Dulwich | 830 cc1688-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was present at Second Reading but was prevented from taking part for medical reasons....

Lord Cormack | 830 cc1689-1690 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it would be entirely appropriate to support virtually all of these amendments, which ha...

Lord Weir of Ballyholme | 830 cc1690-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I also support the amendments in this group, but at the start I would perhaps add two c...

Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 830 c1692 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am a member of the Joint Committee on Human Rights. The report, as others have mentio...

Baroness Helic | 830 cc1692-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak in support of Amendment 86 in particular, but I fully endorse other effort...

Baroness Stroud | 830 cc1694-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend Lord Randall’s Amendment 86, to which I am delighted to have ...

Lord Macdonald of River Glaven | 830 c1695 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, allow me to add a few words about law enforcement. It seems to me that the problems the...

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 830 cc1695-7 (Link to this contribution)

The strongest argument, apart from the legal and moral arguments, is the practical one that has j...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 830 cc1697-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Kerr. I agree with him about that form ...

Bishop of Durham | 830 cc1698-1700 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare my interests with RAMP and Reset and, like the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, did a...

Baroness Sugg | 830 c1700 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendments 86 and 90. No one wants to see abuse of modern slavery legislation...

Lord Paddick | 830 cc1700-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as was pointed out by the noble Lord, Lord Kerr of Kinlochard, not one speaker has supp...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 830 c1701 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as I have repeatedly set out, we need bold and radical action to tackle the dangerous, ...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 830 c1703 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is making a very bold proposition when he says that Article 30 gives the Government ...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 830 c1703 (Link to this contribution)

It was Article 13(3). The events which the Government say warrant the grounds of public order whi...

Lord Cormack | 830 c1703 (Link to this contribution)

What does my noble friend say to the statement that what is being done here is in effect dismantl...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 830 cc1703-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid I do not agree with my noble friend. These provisions are strictly limited to deal wi...

Bishop of Durham | 830 c1704 (Link to this contribution)

Sorry—it has taken me a little while to contemplate but is the Minister effectively saying that t...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 830 c1704 (Link to this contribution)

As the right reverend Prelate will appreciate, it is the experience of litigators that the use of...

Bishop of Durham | 830 c1705 (Link to this contribution)

With respect to the Minister, that is not quite what I was asking. Absolutely, it is happening, b...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 830 c1705 (Link to this contribution)

That all depends on the facts of each particular case, As I say, that is what will be considered ...

Lord Macdonald of River Glaven | 830 c1705 (Link to this contribution)

Would the Minister accept that, given the extreme sensitivity of persuading victims in these cate...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 830 c1705 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid I do not accept that, because of the advances in technology that I have already descr...

Lord Paddick | 830 c1705 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister not understand that for a victim of crime who is in effect persecuted by the Go...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 830 cc1705-6 (Link to this contribution)

One would hope that a victim of trafficking would want to facilitate the prosecution of their tra...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 830 c1706 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, will he do the usual thing, which is to answer reasonable question...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 830 c1706 (Link to this contribution)

I had in mind the sage words of the noble Baroness, Lady Smith, in the House last week. As the no...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 830 c1706 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, earlier when referring to ECAT provisions in relation to the amendments I brought forwa...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 830 c1706 (Link to this contribution)

Obviously I hear what the noble Baroness says. Clearly the public order disqualification is capab...

Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 830 c1707 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder whether my noble friend would consider my invitation. If I can arrange it, will he come ...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 830 c1707 (Link to this contribution)

Well, I would be very happy to meet the noble Lord, with or without such a victim, to discuss his...

Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 830 c1707 (Link to this contribution)

I asked the Minister whether he would meet a victim of modern slavery.

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 830 c1707 (Link to this contribution)

I would be happy to do that too, as I said.

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 830 c1707 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I asked the Minister three questions and, not to my great surprise, I did not get answe...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 830 c1707 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid I cannot comment on what might or might not be in the impact assessment.

Lord Coaker | 830 cc1707-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, rather than make a lot of different remarks, let me just say this: in my honest opinion...

Lord Coaker | 830 c1708 (Link to this contribution)

I will withdraw the amendment on that basis.

Baroness Ludford | 830 cc1708-9 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Ludford

92A: After Clause 21, insert the following new Clause—

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Baroness Ludford | 830 cc1709-1710 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as was mentioned, the noble Lord, Lord Alton, is not able to be here today, but I join ...

Baroness Ludford | 830 cc1710-2 (Link to this contribution)

I hear the noble Lord, Lord Deben, who knows those processes. They would take evidence and scruti...

Lord Bach | 830 cc1712-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am proud to have signed Amendment 120 in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Ludford...

Baroness Lawlor | 830 cc1713-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clause 54 provides that, under the Bill, recipients of removal notices will have access...

Lord Paddick | 830 c1715 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as my noble friend Lady Ludford said, proper scrutiny of the Bill rests with this House...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 830 cc1715-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group of amendments looks at legal aid in the context of the Bill. Prior to a remo...

Lord Bellamy | 830 cc1716-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is always a rewarding experience to find oneself largely in agreement with some of t...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 830 c1718 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not want to take us back to the impact assessment issue, but it would certainly be...

Lord Bellamy | 830 c1718 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hear what the noble Lord says. It is an entirely reasonable question. I will take it ...

Baroness Ludford | 830 cc1718-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply. I welcome Clause 54 being put into the Bill—it is b...

Lord Coaker | 830 c1719 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Coaker

93: Clause 22, page 27, line 36, leave out subsection (2)

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Lord Coaker | 830 cc1719-1721 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will not take a great deal of time on this group because quite a number of the points...

Lord Weir of Ballyholme | 830 cc1720-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the proposer of Amendment 96, I have no problems with any of the other amendments in...

Baroness Bryan of Partick | 830 cc1722-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 94 and the intention of the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, and the ri...

Bishop of Durham | 830 c1724 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to support the removal of Clauses 22 to 24 and 27, as proposed by the noble Baro...

Baroness Hamwee | 830 cc1724-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am not going to repeat the points that I made on the first group because they apply i...

Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 830 c1725 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, a number of years ago, I chaired an inquiry in Scotland for the Equality and Human Righ...

Lord Morrow | 830 cc1725-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak very briefly as a co-signatory to Amendment 96, tabled by the noble Lord, ...

Lord Paddick | 830 c1727 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, said when he introduced this group of amendments, it is...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 830 cc1727-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as we have heard, this group of amendments relates to the provision of support to poten...

Baroness Bryan of Partick | 830 c1728 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister confirm that support for people who have been trafficked and involved in modern...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 830 c1728 (Link to this contribution)

No, I am afraid that is not the view of the Government. These provisions are in a measure that re...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 830 c1729 (Link to this contribution)

Forgive me, but I am just answering this point. So it is the Government’s view that the provision...

Lord Weir of Ballyholme | 830 c1729 (Link to this contribution)

The specific issue that was raised was about support for victims of human trafficking, which clea...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 830 c1729 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the noble Lord that, in that context, the Assembly had competence to consider those ...

Baroness Ludford | 830 c1729 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down and the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, jumps up, could I ask the Minister...

Lord Morrow | 830 c1729 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to confirm that the noble Baroness is right.

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 830 c1729 (Link to this contribution)

My understanding is that the measures are compatible with the Windsor Framework, but I will take ...

Lord Coaker | 830 c1729 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank those who contributed to the debate. I will come to the more general point abou...

Lord Coaker | 830 c1730 (Link to this contribution)

That would be helpful, looking at the incredulity on the faces of the noble Lords, Lord Morrow an...

Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 830 c1730 (Link to this contribution)

A year ago, I conducted an inquiry into a horrifying set of events that took place in Glasgow dur...

Lord Coaker | 830 c1730 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend Lady Kennedy for that. Asking the Minister to check this is helpful. It w...

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