National Security Bill
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Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
1: Clause 1, page 1, line 9, after “or” insert “having ...
My Lords, before I speak to the amendments in this group, I would like to talk about some of the ...
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My Lords, I thank the Minister for the helpful explanation of the many government amendments in t...
My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 18 in my name, supported by the noble Baroness, Lady Stowell,...
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Black. I read up on him and it says onl...
My Lords, I will add a few remarks to what has already been said in the debate. My noble friend L...
My Lords, I declare my interest as the chairman of the Independent Press Standards Organisation. ...
My Lords, I have added my name in support of my noble friend’s amendments seeking further clarity...
My Lords, I shall be very brief. I thank the Minister for his explanation of the Government’s ame...
My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have spoken in this debate for their very warm words. The stren...
Before my noble friend sits down, I will offer one point of clarification. I will of course respo...
Moved by
Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames
4: Clause 1, page 1, line 13, at end insert—<...
My Lords, this group concerns the public interest defence which is contained in Amendment 79 in m...
My Lords, before we get on to the substance of the Bill, perhaps I might just correct something t...
After that intervention, the noble Lord, Lord Marks, had better watch out for his safety.
I...
Perhaps I might intervene. Ships alter course and go in all sorts of directions. There is a gener...
I would not describe the noble Lord as a young man in a hurry although, had he waited just a seco...
My Lords, although I sympathise with Amendment 79, which seeks to protect those who act genuinely...
My Lords, I recognise the Government’s argument that these spying offences need to be broad enoug...
My Lords, I acknowledge the changes that have been made to Amendment 79 since it was introduced i...
I have a question on a point of clarification. I understand the point that the noble Lord makes r...
If I am being invited to comment on whether I would support a different amendment, I say that mig...
My Lords, throughout the passage of the Bill, concerns have been raised that legitimate acts in t...
My Lords, this group of amendments covers the introduction of a public interest defence—a PID. Th...
My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister for his response to these amendments, but it has dis...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
7: Clause 2, page 2, line 17, after “or” insert “having...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
9: Clause 3, page 3, line 25, leave out “it is reasonab...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
13: Clause 3, page 3, line 30, after “may” insert “be l...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
16: Clause 3, page 4, line 13, at end insert—
“(b...
Moved by
Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb
18: Clause 3, page 4, line 21, at end insert—<...
My Lords, I would like to test the opinion of the House.
Moved by
Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede
18A: Clause 3, page 4, line 24, at end insert—
My Lords, I wish to test the opinion of the House.
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
19: Clause 3, page 4, line 33, at end insert—
““l...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
20: Clause 4, page 5, line 4, after “or” insert “having...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
24: Clause 5, page 5, line 29, after “or” insert “havin...
Moved by
Lord Carlile of Berriew
26: Clause 7, page 6, line 39, leave out “or the Sov...
My Lords, we move from the rather contentious issues of the last two groups to a little bit of su...
My Lords, I declare my connection with the Government of Cyprus, as detailed in the register, and...
My Lords, my name is also on these amendments, and I have also spoken with the High Commission; m...
My Lords, this group covers a variety of related topics. The House has heard only about the amend...
Is the Minister classifying the sovereign base areas as having the same relationship with Britain...
Clearly, the SBAs are a special structure, as set out in the 1960 treaty. As I say, they have a u...
My Lords, an Order in Council can be made by His Majesty’s Government. I do not understand when t...
The point, as the noble Lord will appreciate, is that the Bill should endeavour not to leave any ...
The Minister has given us an explanation and I accept that the reference to a constable is to a U...
The Government take the view that it is necessary to have the matter protected in UK law in addit...
The Minister was careful when he said that the SBAs and the FCDO were consulted by the Home Offic...
As I hope I have already made clear, it is only Clause 4 that applies. Clause 6 does not apply in...
My Lords, I am afraid I am very puzzled as a result of the Minister’s reply.
First, I think...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
30: Clause 7, page 8, line 1, after “a” insert “United ...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
35: Clause 11, page 10, line 21, leave out “prove” and ...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
37: Clause 12, page 10, line 33, after “or” insert “hav...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
40: Clause 13, page 12, line 11, leave out subsection (...
My Lords, Amendments 40, 41 and 50 relate to the offence of foreign interference.
Amendment...
My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 51, which stands in my name and those of the noble Lord, Lord...
My Lords, one of the reasons for supporting the amendment, to which I have added my name, as the ...
My Lords, I support Amendment 51, which would help increase the transparency and accountability o...
My Lords, the all-Peers letter which the Minister sent to us on 28 February states clearly and st...
My Lords, I declare an interest as the chair of the Committee on Standards in Public Life. In 202...
My Lords, I rise briefly to say that we very much support Amendment 51 in the name of the noble L...
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken on this group.
I will start, if I may, by...
Before the Minister sits down, I just want to check one thing with him. He said that overseas ele...
I think that I made it reasonably clear that to register as an elector overseas, you must present...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
41: Clause 14, page 12, line 23, leave out “as it has e...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
47: Clause 14, page 12, line 34, after “(1)(d)” insert ...
Moved by
Lord Carlile of Berriew
51: After Clause 16, insert the following new Clause...
My Lords, I am very grateful to all those who have contributed to this debate. It is notable that...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
52: Clause 17, page 15, line 18, after first “or” inser...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
55: Schedule 2, page 71, line 15, at end insert—
...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
64: Schedule 6, page 124, line 5, at end insert “or, in...
Moved by
Lord Beith
65: Clause 30, page 22, line 30, at end insert “when carried out ...
My Lords, the amendment to which I will speak was designed to limit the scope of the immunity whi...
My Lords, I speak in relation to Clause 30 and the different amendments being proposed, including...
My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 68 on the supplementary sheet in my name and that of the nobl...
My Lords, I rise briefly, I hope, to say that, first, I agree with everything that my noble frien...
My Lords, I understand that our order of business has been changed today. The Government Whip did...
My Lords, this is a really important debate. Government Amendment 66 is a considerable improvemen...
I put it to the noble Lord that this is not a formality. The point of the Prime Minister meeting ...
I could not agree more with the noble Lord, and that is why it is so incredible that no Prime Min...
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who spoke in this debate on Clause 30, the Serious Crime Act 20...
On that point, there is a world of difference between the necessary task of a Minister satisfying...
I will turn to ministerial responsibility if the noble Lord will bear with me. In fact, I am goin...
As a point of correction, the omission has been remedied and the amendment is on the supplementar...
My noble friend Lady Goldie has not been able to discuss that with our right honourable friend th...
The Minister knows that, in Committee, I quoted quite a lot from the OSJA human rights guidance, ...
My Lords, I cannot confirm that from the Dispatch Box, but I will write to the noble Lord with th...
The Minister has been helpful, but I hope he can be more specific. When does he think the encoura...
My Lords, I go back to what I said to the noble Lord in previous debates on this subject: the act...
My Lords, that was a very interesting final remark from the Minister. I hope it will prove to hav...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
66: Leave out Clause 30 and insert the following new Cl...
I beg to move.
Amendment 67 (to Amendment 66)
Tabled by
Lord West of Spithead
67: In inserted section 50A(2), after “necessary” ins...
My Lords, I think our concerns have been assuaged by what the Minister said at the Dispatch Box a...
Tabled by
Lord Anderson of Ipswich
68: In inserted section 50A(2)(b), leave out “a” a...
Given the Minister’s undertaking, I shall not move the amendment.
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
71: Clause 31, page 23, line 7, after “or” insert “havi...
Moved by
Lord Wallace of Saltaire
73: Clause 32, page 23, line 31, at beginning inser...
My Lords, this amendment comes with Amendment 75, which is the substantive amendment. I suppose I...
My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 74 in my name. It deals with the definition of “foreign power...
My Lords, I completely support what has been said by my noble friend Lord Wallace of Saltaire in ...
My Lords, I think that this part of the Bill was drawn up by someone who had not travelled very w...
My Lords, I want to speak briefly to ask the Minister a question. I support what has been said by...
My Lords, this has been a more wide-ranging debate than I was anticipating. The definition of a f...
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate, and I will do my best to clarif...
My Lords, may I ask a question of clarification? I understand much more clearly what the noble Lo...
My Lords, ruling parties are the foreign power. As I have tried to be clear and have stressed twi...
My Lords, does the Minister accept that an intermediary could be a conference-arranging organisat...
I noted the noble Baroness’s questions about intermediaries, and I promise that I will address th...
This is at the heart of it. If the German SPD engaged somebody to set up a stall at our party con...
I thank the noble Baroness for her comments. I am more than happy to continue engagement on this ...
I do not want to detain the House. I asked whether the definition of a political party in Clause ...
I thought that I answered this when I talked about direction by a foreign power. If members of a ...
I am grateful to the Minister for his clear explanation. There remains a slight degree of uncerta...
My Lords, before the Minister comes back, could either he or a representative of the Government t...
My Lords, in answer to the question from the noble Lord, Lord Purvis, I cannot make any promises ...
My Lords, I am not convinced by the Minister’s argument. That he has to go back to the single cas...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
76: Clause 33, page 24, line 29, leave out from “to” to...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
77: Clause 34, page 25, line 30, at end insert—
“...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
78: Clause 37, page 27, line 26, at end insert—
“...
Moved by
Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede
80: Leave out Clause 56 and insert the following ...
My Lords, I will be brief. Amendment 80
“would provide for the regular review of the operat...
My Lords, I am not sure whether the noble Lord will seek to test the opinion of the House—he is n...
The noble Lord, Lord Purvis, hits on a sore point for independent reviewers past and present. At ...
My Lords, I thank noble Lords for those contributions. There has been plenty of discussion throug...
Before the Minister sits down, I wonder if he might be able to address my point—which I remind hi...
I certainly addressed the point which he generously made praising the Government for our amendmen...
I know that this is Report and we do not have to and fro, but I was making the point that it was ...
My Lords, it was me who moved Amendment 80, which is the first amendment in this group. I thank t...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
81: Leave out Clause 56.
Member's explanatory sta...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
82: Schedule 12, page 175, line 15, at end insert “or, ...
Moved by
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
85: After Clause 63, insert the following new Clause—