National Security Bill

My Lords, Amendments 76, 77, 78 and 79, in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Ludford, enable u...

My Lords, I will first address Amendments 77, 78 and 79. These amendments would create a requirem...

Can the Minister help the Committee by giving us an estimate of the scale of the problem? Do the ...

I am afraid I do not have that information to hand. My conjecture would be that it is fewer, but ...

My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply. I also thank the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, for call...

Moved by

Baroness Ludford

80: Clause 54, page 38, line 22, after second “of” insert “...

My Lords, I assure the Committee that this will not be a one-woman show all afternoon. I can be v...

My Lords, my Amendment 81 is a bit wider than that of the noble Baroness, Lady Ludford, who is ce...

My Lords, I do not have anything more to add other than to say that we support Amendments 80 and ...

My Lords, Amendments 80 and 81 propose having an independent reviewer to cover more than Part 2 o...

With a glance at the impact assessment on this part of the Bill, the Government’s estimate is tha...

Obviously, the noble Lord makes a valid point, and I am sure it will feed into the department’s c...

I am grateful to the Minister, but it may assist the Committee to know what will happen next. It ...

We invite the proposers of the amendments not to press them; further information will follow.

Well—my noble friend Lord Purvis of Tweed asked the obvious question of what happens next, and we...

Moved by

Lord Sharpe of Epsom

82: Clause 62, page 43, line 23, after “an” insert “agr...

My Lords, this group responds to the amendments tabled in relation to the political influence tie...

My Lords, in his opening statement, the noble Lord said that the Government plan to publish a pol...

That is certainly my intention, yes.

I thank the noble Lord for making that clear. It will have an impact on the way we address this w...

My Lords, while I very much welcome the fact that this policy is under review, I hope your Lordsh...

My Lords, I declare my interests, as I did before, as a board member of the ABI and a member of t...

Before the noble Baroness sits down, would she perhaps give permission for us all to receive the ...

The Minister will understand that I cannot possibly answer this question because then we would ha...

My Lords, my name is on several of these amendments. I should perhaps say that I welcome and supp...

My Lords, I have not previously taken part in this Bill because I claim absolutely no expertise i...

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, not least because I want to make some re...

My Lords, I absolutely support the remarks that have been made by numerous noble Lords on the pri...

My Lords, I apologise for popping up at this point, not having taken part in the debates so far, ...

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 103, and I declare my interests as set out in the register...

My Lords, perhaps I could just add a footnote to what the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, said—no...

My Lords, as we are in Committee, I think one can intervene a second time. I just want to ask the...

My Lords, the best estimate of cost is £47.8 million. The high estimate is £62.4 million. In addi...

There are a lot of them.

There are a few, but 25 members of the Home Office are going to be monitoring this database, and ...

My Lords, I apologise for not having participated in this debate earlier but, like other speakers...

I thank noble Lords for their important amendments in this group and for the extensive and intere...

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. He may be missing a point but will correct me if I ...

Well, as I have just said, I do not believe that it does. If I may, I will confirm that and come ...

I am very grateful to the Minister. He has just mentioned for the second time the compliance burd...

I reassure the noble Lord that the Minister absolutely understands exactly where he is coming fro...

Are those regulations to be laid before Parliament before the completion of the Bill, or will we ...

I will come back to the noble Lord on that shortly.

I will go on to the commercial sensitiv...

That commitment is welcome. The Minister referred to the lack of a regulatory burden; I am follow...

The noble Lord has pre-empted the remainder of my speech to some extent, which I am afraid goes o...

For the avoidance of doubt, have scientific societies in this country that are charities been con...

I assure the noble Viscount that I shall come to the substance of his comments and those of the n...

Does the Minister accept that issues of public health can often be highly political? One of my co...

I do not think that I am putting it into a particularly neat category; I think I am leaving a lar...

I will reflect on what the Minister says when I read Hansard. I am glad that bodies such as the B...

My Lords, I thought I was very clear on the precise specified persons tier here. A UK university ...

The Minister spoke about universities. Did he mean the academics—any academic within the universi...

Yes.

Amendment 103 was tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, to remove the exemptio...

I heard what the Minister said about lobbying and the additional aspect of lobbying by law firms,...

I think I explained this in reasonable detail. It goes back to the sort of work the lawyers carry...

All the Minister is saying, in a highly circular way, is that it is in here because it has always...

In that case, I am very sorry to disappoint the noble Lord. I apologise for having spoken at such...

I am not sure whether the Minister has picked up my point about arbitration. I am very sorry that...

I was about to attempt to address the question from the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope, but un...

Since the Minister said he would go away and reflect on this debate, which may bring about substa...

My Lords, I am not sure it would save a huge amount of time, would it?

It depends how long the Minister takes to move his own amendments. When he sums up his own amendm...

Moved by

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

83: After Clause 63, insert the following new Cla...

My Lords, Amendment 83 provides that the Government must lay secondary legislation to define “spe...

My Lords, government Amendments 85, 86, 87, 94, 95 and 96 are minor and technical amendments that...

I beg leave to withdraw my amendment.

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

84: Schedule 13, page 175, line 33, at end insert—<...

My Lords, some of my colleagues will probably feel that further discussion on Part 3 is, in a sen...

The noble Lord, Lord Wallace, has raised an interesting but complicated question to answer. He ha...

I thank both noble Lords for their contributions; it is indeed a complex issue. Amendment 83 seek...

My Lords, I foresee yet another bout of litigation over who really owns what as this is implement...

Moved by

Lord Sharpe of Epsom

85: Clause 65, page 44, line 29, leave out from second ...

Moved by

Lord Sharpe of Epsom

89: Clause 66, page 45, line 19, after “an” insert “agr...

Moved by

Lord Sharpe of Epsom

90: Clause 68, page 46, line 29, at end insert “a perso...

My Lords, Amendments 90, 91, 93, 98, 122 and 123 insert senior leaders in the police and military...

On the extent of the schedule of those to be included, unless I have misunderstood or misread, th...

My Lords, it is an intriguing question. I like the idea, as a concept, that any of these organisa...

My Lords, I will have a go. I thank the noble Lord, Lord Purvis, very much for those comments. Th...

What about the corporation? I am grateful to the Minister, but there is a quite considerable amou...

I will absolutely reflect on that but, as I say, they are not politically elected persons, as the...

Moved by

Lord Sharpe of Epsom

91: Clause 68, page 46, line 30, leave out sub-paragrap...

I cannot call Amendment 92B, as it is an amendment to Amendment 92A.

Amendment 93

Moved by

Lord Sharpe of Epsom

93: Clause 68, page 47, leave out lines 26 to 41

...

Moved by

Lord Sharpe of Epsom

94: Clause 70, page 48, line 15, leave out from second ...

Moved by

Lord Sharpe of Epsom

98: Before Schedule 14, insert the following new Schedu...

Moved by

Lord Sharpe of Epsom

99: Schedule 14, page 180, line 7, at end insert “forei...