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Moved by
Lord Purvis of Tweed
63A: Clause 28, page 21, line 14, at end insert—
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My Lords, this debate concerns the intelligence agencies and what the appropriate procedures are ...
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Before the noble Lord sits down, I just wonder whether he considers that there may be a differenc...
I understand the case. The Consolidated Guidance to Intelligence Officers and Service Personnel d...
My Lords, I listened with great interest to the argument made by the noble Lord, Lord Purvis of T...
My Lords, that sounds right to me. Part 2 of the Serious Crime Act 2007 abolished the common-law ...
My Lords, I follow on from the early comments from the noble Lord, Lord Anderson, about the confu...
My Lords, the provisions of this clause and its defects have been set out very well by my noble f...
My Lords, as is his wont, the noble Lord, Lord Beith, started with a very cogent and important po...
My Lords, I apologise for not being present at Second Reading; I was doing other business in the ...
My Lords, I think we need to remind ourselves that the United Kingdom is a party to the torture c...
My Lords, may I add one footnote to the powerful speeches by my noble friends on these Benches? T...
My Lords, I had not intended to say anything on this part of the Bill, not least because all thes...
I am grateful to the noble Baroness and of course defer to her very considerable expertise in thi...
I will have a short word with the noble Lord, Lord Purvis, afterwards in the dinner break, if he ...
Terrifying—please, no.
The noble Lord may have confused covert intelligence sources as agents—I am sorry; this is termin...
My Lords, I start by saying that if the noble and learned Lord, Lord Judge, is a pupil barrister,...
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have contributed to a fascinating and wide-ranging debate. ...
The Minister has repeated several times his reference to the Armed Forces, but, up to now, always...
The noble Lord has pre-empted me by about a second. A number of noble Lords have asked why the Ar...
It would answer the question if the clause was so defined as to limit the extent of the immunity ...
I will continue, but I will come back to that, if I may.
I want to return to the question a...
I apologise for interrupting the noble Lord. Before he moves on, could he give us two figures whi...
I am afraid that I do not have those figures to hand. I am not sure that I will be able to get th...
I am grateful to the Minister for giving way, and I look forward to that reply when it comes in w...
As I said earlier, I think this is confined very much to the intelligence support by the Armed Fo...
I am grateful. No, it is not. The Minister said that there was no change to the approach on unlaw...
I do not believe that there is immunity for that, but I will clarify that if I am incorrect.
<...Coming back to the amendment from the noble Lord, Lord Purvis, gives me the opportunity to return...
I am going to do it right now: there is no immunity for inciting or assisting others to kill or t...
Could the Minister give a little more information as to why there is no immunity?
The noble Lord does not want there to be immunity.
No. Why, under this clause, would there continue to be no immunity?
Perhaps I could get to the end and then clarify this. As I said earlier in relation to the SCA, I...
I am very sorry to interrupt the noble Lord again. He said that this would not remove the oversig...
I see where the noble Lord is coming from and, yes, I accept that.
I return to the reasonab...
Before the noble Lord sits down, could I see whether I have understood him correctly? Is he sayin...
That is what I am saying. I will come back to whether it should be on the face of the Bill in due...
I am very grateful for that last interaction between the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, and the Minist...
Moved by
Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb
66A: Clause 29, page 21, line 33, at end inser...
My Lords, I do not get frightened easily, but we have talked a lot about nerves here, and walking...
My Lords, I too did not speak at Second Reading. Unlike the noble and learned Lord, Lord Judge, w...
My Lords, I speak in support of Amendment 66A in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Jones of Mo...
My Lords, as the noble Baronesses, Lady Jones and Lady Hayter, and the noble Lord, Lord Black of ...
My Lords, I declare an interest as the chairman of the Communications and Digital Select Committe...
My Lords, my name is on Amendment 70 and I want to speak to Amendments 68 and 71. I stress that, ...
My Lords, I will not be disclosing quite as much as the noble Lord, Lord Wallace, did, but I will...
My Lords, I share the concerns which have been expressed in this debate about the breadth of Clau...
My Lords, I wish very briefly to follow that excellent point, because the Government have not bee...
My Lords, we of course support the overall aim of the Bill. We also support the overall aims of t...
No; I cannot respond to that gallantly, can I? I will plough on.
Interestingly, my son rece...
My Lords, I again thank all noble Lords who have participated in this debate. Amendment 66A seeks...
How then, if you seek to attack political parties that are effectively Governments, do you corres...
I of course understand where the noble Lord is coming from, but the point is that this relates to...
Is the Minister moving off political parties? If so, he has not answered any of the questions tha...
I thank the noble Baroness for that. She will forgive me if I do not get involved in what is the ...
It will be for the noble Lord or his successor to opine, because it is in the Bill. There is no s...
As regards the registering point, the noble Baroness is—as the noble Lord, Lord Ponsonby, suggest...
So there will be meetings that we can have now, and if—God forbid—Mr Trump wins, suddenly the par...
No, I do not believe that is particularly what I am saying. I suspect we will have to come back t...
My Lords, I am afraid I do not accept the Minister’s idea that these things cannot be criminalise...
My Lords, we need to come back to the question of a definition of a foreign power. The idea of a ...