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National Security Bill

Lords committee stage third day. Clauses 30 to 37 agreed to with clause 34 agreed to as amended. (Part 2 of 2).

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826 cc1493-1514 

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2022-23

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Home Office

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National Security Bill 2022-23. Brought from the Commons.
Thursday, 17 November 2022
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National Security Bill
Wednesday, 11 January 2023
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Deposited Paper DEP2023-0079
Tuesday, 24 January 2023
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Proceeding contributions

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 826 c1493 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames

72: Clause 31, page 23, line 3, leave out par...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 826 cc1493-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in the absence of my noble friend Lady Ludford, I am moving Amendment 72. It is a short...


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Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 826 c1494 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is another JCHR-recommended amendment, ably spoken to by the noble Lord, Lord Mark...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 826 cc1494-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 72 seeks to narrow the definition of foreign power threat activity by removin...

Lord Beith | 826 c1495 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister explain that? That is the only thing I can see that is covered by paragraph (c) ...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 826 c1495 (Link to this contribution)

I base that confidence on the explicit reference to Clause 31(1)(a) in Clause 31(1)(c). With that...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 826 c1495 (Link to this contribution)

I will withdraw it, but only on the basis that the Minister will consider this a little more care...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 826 c1496 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Sharpe of Epsom

73: Clause 34, page 25, line 20, leave out from “(1)” t...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 826 c1496 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames

74: Clause 36, page 26, line 5, leave out “in...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 826 cc1496-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I move Amendment 74 on behalf of my noble friend Lady Ludford. It is a very simple amen...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 826 c1497 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was not planning to speak on this fairly narrow amendment. The noble Lord, Lord Marks...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 826 cc1497-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lords, Lord Marks and Lord Ponsonby, for

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Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 826 c1498 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall look carefully at the Minister’s response. For the time being I will certainly ...

Lord Davies of Gower | 826 c1498 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I propose that the Committee adjourn for 10 minutes until 9 pm to accommodate a technic...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 826 c1499 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames

75: After Clause 36, insert the following new...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 826 c1499 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Committee for its indulgence in allowing a 10-minute break. The technical i...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 826 cc1499-1501 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, it was possibly a serious disruption.

We have all received a very large number of brie...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 826 cc1501-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will add very briefly to the comprehensive introduction of the amendments. I thank my...

Baroness Manningham-Buller | 826 cc1502-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think this amendment has substantial problems. If I may, I will remind the noble Lord...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 826 cc1503-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I share the view that I think is being proposed, at least implicitly, by those who tabl...

Lord Faulks | 826 cc1504-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have very little to add to that brilliant exposition of the difficulties with this am...

Lord Coaker | 826 cc1505-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak primarily to my diffident amendment, which is none the less an importan...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 826 cc1507-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for a very interesting debate on a topic of considerable public importance. T...

Lord Coaker | 826 c1508 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt, but just on the point about the guidance, where the Minister has confirm...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 826 cc1508-1510 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that I am unaware of the precise timeline—I will find out. If the matter is not discu...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 826 c1510 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister knows that, on previous days in Committee, we have discussed the issue of how the in...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 826 c1510 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord’s question as I understand it is whether the decision about public interest is one...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 826 cc1510-1 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, I am conscious that, as the noble Baroness, Lady Manningham-Buller...

Lord Murray of Blidworth | 826 c1511 (Link to this contribution)

It is clear, in the view of the Government, that those issues relate to the provisions found in t...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 826 cc1511-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will be asking for leave to withdraw this amendment, not on the basis that it will go...

Lord Faulks | 826 c1512 (Link to this contribution)

Just so that I understand, is the noble Lord saying that the absence of a public interest defence...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 826 c1512 (Link to this contribution)

As drafted, I fear that it would. Since we have had absolutely no indication that concessions wil...

Baroness Manningham-Buller | 826 c1512 (Link to this contribution)

I reassure the noble Lord that I do not believe that any of my former colleagues would want wrong...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 826 cc1512-3 (Link to this contribution)

I accept entirely that this is a very difficult issue and that the balance to be struck is very d...

Lord Faulks | 826 c1513 (Link to this contribution)

First, with great respect, jury trial was effectively abolished by the Act that the noble Lord is...

Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames | 826 cc1513-4 (Link to this contribution)

I disagree—a fortiori, if such a defence is appropriate in a defence to a civil claim, it is appr...

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