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Schools Bill [HL]

Debate on bills on Monday, 18 July 2022, in the House of Lords, led by Baroness Barran and Baroness Penn. The answering members were Baroness Chapman of Darlington and Baroness Wilcox of Newport.
Lords report stage second day. Motion to continue report stage agreed. Amendment 64B was disagreed after division called off. Amendments 68 to 73 agreed to. Amendment 86 agreed to. Amendment 93 agreed to. Amendments 98 and 99 agreed to. (Part 1 of 2).

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

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Session

2022-23

Legislative stage

Report stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Barran | 823 c1760 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Barran

Baroness Barran | 823 c1760 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with the leave of the House, I will begin with a brief note on scheduling. I know that ...


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Lord Baker of Dorking | 823 cc1760-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Report may be the last occasion on which this House will be able to consider the Bill b...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 823 cc1761-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I echo and support the noble Lord, Lord Baker. I do not understand why the Government a...

Lord Judge | 823 c1762 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we understood that Third Reading was going to happen this week. I drafted a Notice of M...

Lord Grocott | 823 c1762 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, sitting where I am, I have repeatedly felt genuinely sorry for the Minister, who has do...

Lord Addington | 823 cc1762-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Minister has done what in rugby they say happens to good players: they catch the ba...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 823 c1763 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the only thing that stops me wholeheartedly agreeing with everything that previous spea...

Viscount Stansgate | 823 c1763 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that is one of the reasons why I support what has been said by the noble Lord, Lord Bak...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 823 cc1763-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is quite clear that the Bill has been badly received across the whole House. Whole c...

Baroness Barran | 823 c1764 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister has heard loud and clear. I suppose I would say a couple of things—but very briefly,...

Lord Geddes | 823 c1764 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before calling the first group, I should say that the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, is ...

Lord Wei | 823 c1764 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wei

64B: Clause 49, page 42, line 9, at end insert—

“(5A) Conditi...

Lord Wei | 823 cc1764-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 64B I shall also speak to other amendments in my name. I declare an...

Lord Grocott | 823 c1765 (Link to this contribution)

I gently remind the noble Lord of the Companion, which says that speakers

“are expected to ...

Lord Wei | 823 c1765 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, I will wrap up.

I have two final amendments in this group. Amendment 86A in my n...

Lord Geddes | 823 c1765 (Link to this contribution)

I assume that the noble Lord would like to move his amendment?

Lord Geddes | 823 c1765 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as I previously advised, I now invite the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, to speak.

Lord Soley | 823 cc1765-1770 (Link to this contribution)

I was going to get a glass of water, but that is going to be difficult. I thought for a moment th...

Lord Wei | 823 c1770 (Link to this contribution)

Just to clarify a few of my remarks, I want to credit the noble Lord, Lord Soley, the Minister an...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 823 c1771 (Link to this contribution)

Will the noble Lord give way? My understanding is that it is not normal to have a backwards and f...

Lord Soley | 823 c1771 (Link to this contribution)

I had not finished. It is very unusual to intervene on an intervention. I was speaking and I was ...

Baroness Penn | 823 c1771 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is probably worth clarifying that on Report a Member should speak only once unless i...

Lord Soley | 823 c1771 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Wei, asked me to give way, which I did, but I am quite happy to continue as ...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 823 cc1771-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am going to be very quick. I would like to speak to my Amendment 86B and later amendm...

Lord Lucas | 823 cc1772-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have several amendments in this group. If I were to say one thing to my noble friend ...

Bishop of Carlisle | 823 cc1773-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak on behalf of my right reverend friend the Bishop of St. Albans, who has two ame...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 823 cc1775-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very supportive of Amendment 64A. Amendments 65, 66, 66A and 94 are also ways of r...

Lord Storey | 823 cc1776-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I said at Second Reading, putting the register aside for a moment, that we as a society...

Lord Hacking | 823 cc1777-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am in a bit of a dilemma. My noble friend Lady Jones of Moulsecoomb, if I may so refe...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 823 cc1778-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on the amendments tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Wei, we disagree in principle on this....

Baroness Barran | 823 cc1779-1782 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to the first group of amendments which relate to the proposals for chil...

Lord Wei | 823 cc1782-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have participated in discussing these amendments and thank ...

Lord Soley | 823 c1783 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord would give a right not to go on the register to those who he would say are educati...

Lord Wei | 823 c1783 (Link to this contribution)

The law already places a requirement on parents to educate their children to the standards that t...

Baroness Penn | 823 cc1783-5 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Penn

68: Clause 49, page 42, leave out line 30

Member's expla...

Baroness Penn | 823 c1785 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Penn

73: Clause 49, page 45, line 21, at end insert—

“(aa) mu...

Lord Lucas | 823 c1785 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Lucas

74: Clause 49, page 45, line 24, at end insert—

“(A1) Local...

Lord Lucas | 823 cc1785-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 74 I will speak also to Amendments 75 and 78. It is important in th...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 823 c1786 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 77 is in my name, and I am delighted to have the support of the noble Lord, L...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 823 cc1786-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in the absence of my noble friend Lord Hunt, who is in the Moses Room grappling with pr...

Lord Addington | 823 c1787 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it might be appropriate if I speak first to Amendment 76, which stands in my name and t...

Lord Wei | 823 cc1787-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to my Amendment 118 and in support of Amendment 74. As I said before, I ha...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 823 c1788 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in the debate on the last group, I completely forgot to say thank you to the Minister, ...

Baroness Penn | 823 c1788 (Link to this contribution)

Did the noble Lord, Lord Hacking, want to speak to his amendments in this group?

Lord Hacking | 823 cc1788-1790 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness very much. The noble Lord, Lord Lucas, was giving me a signal from the...

Baroness Penn | 823 cc1789-1792 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will start with Amendments 74 and 75, tabled by my noble friend Lord Lucas. The law i...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 823 c1791 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Baroness for giving way. If she has any kind of assessment of the cost...

Baroness Penn | 823 cc1791-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure whether that assessment has been made. If it has, I will be happy to share it. As w...

Lord Storey | 823 c1793 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister finishes, will she respond to Amendment 77 from my noble friend Lady Garden, ...

Baroness Penn | 823 c1793 (Link to this contribution)

I believe I responded about examination costs. In fact, I had an intervention from the noble Lord...

Lord Hacking | 823 c1793 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, will she receive from me great gratitude for her willingness and t...

Baroness Penn | 823 c1793 (Link to this contribution)

That is very much appreciated. I also pass on to my noble friend the Minister the thanks of the n...

Lord Lucas | 823 cc1793-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am glad to hear that the Government continue to give thought to the question of an in...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 823 c1794 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath

80: Clause 49, page 46, line 5, after "may" insert ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 823 cc1794-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I also have Amendments 81 and 83 in this group. I am very pleased that the noble Lord, ...

Lord Lucas | 823 c1796 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have Amendment 82 in this group, asking that local authorities give reasons when they...

Lord Addington | 823 c1796 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the thrust of these amendments. They follow on from my noble friend Lady Brin...

Lord Wei | 823 cc1797-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 119, and am generally supportive of a lot of the other amendm...

Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 823 c1798 (Link to this contribution)

I will not speak to the Tory leadership election.

We support the approach suggested in many...

Baroness Penn | 823 cc1798-1800 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Hunt of Kings Heath, for hotfooting it over here from the Grand Comm...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 823 cc1800-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Baroness. The noble Lord, Lord Lucas, has been in this ...

Baroness Penn | 823 c1801 (Link to this contribution)

Just briefly, I should make it clear to the noble Lord that we are at Report stage and I do not t...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 823 c1801 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness almost tempts me to push this to a vote, but I would not be allowed to. I have...

Baroness Barran | 823 c1801 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Barran

86: Clause 49, page 46, line 8, leave out subsection (3) and...

Lord Lucas | 823 c1801 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Lucas

87: Clause 50, page 48, line 39, leave out from beginning to end ...

Lord Lucas | 823 cc1802-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving this amendment I will also speak to my other amendments in this group. This g...

Earl of Kinnoull | 823 c1803 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, is participating remotely and I invite her to speak n...

Baroness Brinton | 823 cc1803-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare my interest as a vice-president of the Local Government Association and it is...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 823 cc1804-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am going to speak to Amendment 97ZA, in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Hollins....

Lord Shipley | 823 c1806 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to speak briefly to Amendment 91, in my name in this group, which aims to ...

Lord Storey | 823 cc1807-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 100, in my name and the name of my noble friend Lord Shipl...

Lord Mendelsohn | 823 cc1808-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 97A, 118J and 118K.

We have to remind ourselves that t...

Baroness Wilcox of Newport | 823 c1809 (Link to this contribution)

The amendments in this group have attendance at their core, and nothing is more important. In add...

Baroness Barran | 823 cc1809-1812 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the fourth group of amendments relates to school attendance orders and independent educ...

Lord Storey | 823 c1812 (Link to this contribution)

That is the statutory guidance, but what is the Minister’s department doing in relation to those ...

Baroness Barran | 823 cc1812-3 (Link to this contribution)

That was in relation to illegal settings, and we hope that is straightforward. Alternative provis...

Lord Lucas | 823 c1813 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend for that extensive explanation and her many good answe...

Baroness Barran | 823 c1813 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Barran

93: Clause 50, page 52, line 22, leave out “, Academy standa...

Baroness Barran | 823 cc1814-5 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Barran

98: Clause 60, page 64, line 17, leave out “enactment” and i...

Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 823 cc1815-6 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Harries of Pentregarth

101: After Clause 67, insert the following new C...

Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 823 cc1816-8 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move Amendment 101 on British standards, which stands in my name and those of the noble ...

Lord Blunkett | 823 c1818 (Link to this contribution)

I support the noble and right reverend Lord, Lord Harries, and declare my interest as the honorar...

Baroness Whitaker | 823 c1818 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I offer very strong support for Amendment 101, so eloquently moved by the noble and rig...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 823 c1819 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will briefly add to the chorus of approval for this amendment moved by the noble and ...

Lord Sandhurst | 823 cc1819-1820 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 105, the purpose of which is to ensure that parents can disco...

Baroness Morris of Yardley | 823 cc1820-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak in support of the amendment just spoken to by the noble Lord, Lord Sandhurst, t...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 823 cc1821-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have also put my name to Amendment 105. I commend the noble Lord, Lord Sandhurst, and...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 823 cc1822-3 (Link to this contribution)

There we go. I am written off as someone who wants free speech only in order to come out with hat...

Lord Woolley of Woodford | 823 cc1823-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 118A in my name. Before I make any substantive remarks, I ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 823 cc1824-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble Lord in what I thought was a very moving and...

Lord Storey | 823 cc1826-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before speaking to the amendments, I want to quickly say how much I agree with Amendmen...

Baroness Lawrence of Clarendon | 823 cc1827-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak very briefly on Amendment 118B.

For generations, there have been int...

Lord Agnew of Oulton | 823 c1828 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I reassure the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, that regional schools directors are civil servant...

Baroness Wilcox of Newport | 823 cc1828-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am speaking to the two amendments we have in this group: Amendments 118G and 118H. I ...

Lord Lucas | 823 cc1829-1830 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Wilcox, for explaining her amendment to us. I...

Baroness Barran | 823 cc1830-3 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble and right reverend Lord, Lord Harries, for Amendment 101. As he knows, we suppo...

Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 823 c1833 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all those who spoke in support of my amendment, and I listened with great interest to tho...

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