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Procurement Bill [HL]

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Monday, 4 July 2022, in the House of Lords, led by Lord True. The answering members were Lord Coaker and Baroness Hayman of Ullock.
Lords committee stage first day. Clauses 1 and 2 agreed to. Schedule 1 agreed to.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

823 cc181-234GC 

Session

2022-23

Department

Cabinet Office

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords Grand Committee
Procurement Bill (HL) 2022-23
Wednesday, 11 May 2022
Bills
House of Lords
Procurement Bill [HL]; Identity and Language (Northern Ireland) Bill [HL]; Draft Legislative Reform (Provision of Information etc. Relating to Disabilities) Order 2022. Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee third report.
Wednesday, 8 June 2022
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2022-0569
Monday, 11 July 2022
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2022-0623
Tuesday, 19 July 2022
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House of Lords

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Deposited Paper DEP2022-0626
Tuesday, 19 July 2022
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Deposited Paper DEP2022-0656
Thursday, 14 July 2022
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Proceeding contributions

Lord True | 823 c181GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

The Minister of State, Cabinet Office (Lord True) (Con)

1: Before Clause 1, ...

Lord True | 823 cc181-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 1 I will speak to the first group of amendments. Before so doing, I...


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Lord Wigley | 823 c183GC (Link to this contribution)

I realise it is unusual to intervene on the opening speech, but it may be for the convenience of ...

Lord True | 823 c183GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will have to be advised on that. I have been advised that they are the result of disc...

Lord Fox | 823 cc183-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his apology at the beginning, which I believe to be sincere an...

Lord Fox | 823 c185GC (Link to this contribution)

I will correct my speech. It has not even been received by all the interested parties, which make...

Baroness Hayman of Ullock | 823 cc185-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, where do I start? This is a really important and long-awaited Bill, so it is incredibly...

Lord Lansley | 823 cc188-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am the bearer of a simpler brain than the noble Baroness, so I may not cast too much ...

Lord Berkeley | 823 cc189-190GC (Link to this contribution)

I found the explanation of the noble Lord, Lord Lansley, quite interesting, but whether he is cor...

Lord Wigley | 823 c190GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak briefly, as I intervened on the Minister’s opening speech. I want to reinf...

Lord Wigley | 823 cc190-1GC (Link to this contribution)

Scotland may come in but, at the moment, it is doing its own thing. This is a matter of getting a...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 823 cc191-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I regret I was unable to participate in Second Reading. However, I followed that debate...

Lord Davies of Brixton | 823 c193GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I totally agree with everything that has been said. The rubric “technical amendments” h...

Baroness Humphreys | 823 cc194-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for not having spoken at Second Reading. I have taken a keen interest in th...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 823 c195GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not want to prolong the debate. I must say that, having spent the weekend worrying...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 823 cc195-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to raise a question about the wording of the definition in Amendment 1. I am tro...

Lord True | 823 cc196-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to all those who have spoken, although I cannot say it always made for th...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 823 c197GC (Link to this contribution)

My understanding is that the only way this could be done better is for the Government to withdraw...

Lord True | 823 c197GC (Link to this contribution)

That was, in a sense, the implication of what I was saying. We are debating only Amendment 1 at t...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 823 c197GC (Link to this contribution)

I think the problem may be in the language of paragraph (b), because it does not fulfil what the ...

Lord True | 823 c197GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I listened carefully to the noble and learned Lord’s remarks. We will take them away. I...

Lord Lansley | 823 cc197-8GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt my noble friend, but I am glad that I was not misdirecting myself.

...

Lord True | 823 c198GC (Link to this contribution)

I do not think that, in public remarks that will be recorded for all eternity in Hansard, Ministe...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 823 c198GC (Link to this contribution)

While the Minister is reflecting, might he be able to comment today on the legal advice that he h...

Lord True | 823 cc198-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was going to make a proposal. The legislation obviously reflects our existing interna...

Lord Fox | 823 c199GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that. I do not think he answered the question my noble friend asked. Acc...

Lord True | 823 c200GC (Link to this contribution)

I will have to take procedural advice on that. My understanding is that if I withdraw Amendment 1...

Lord Geddes | 823 c200GC (Link to this contribution)

I hate to interrupt the noble Lord in full flow, but a Division has been called in the Chamber.

Lord True | 823 c200GC (Link to this contribution)

In order to finish, as I was just about say, we wish to facilitate proper discussion. Obviously, ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 823 c201GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Neville-Rolfe

2: Clause 1, page 1, line 10, leave out sub-paragraph...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 823 cc201-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am glad that we have been able to move on to this group of amendments, all of which w...

Lord Berkeley | 823 cc202-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I added my name to Amendment 2, and tabled Amendments 25 to 27. The noble Baroness rais...

Lord Moylan | 823 c204GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hesitate to appear to disagree with the noble Lord, Lord Berkely, but I shall humilia...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 823 c204GC (Link to this contribution)

I think electricity is later taken out, as I mentioned.

Lord Moylan | 823 cc204-5GC (Link to this contribution)

Oh well. I shall just work on the text I have; I mean, what is one meant to do? There is “Water” ...

Lord Berkeley | 823 c205GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord for expanding fully on these amendments but in the case of some o...

Lord Moylan | 823 c205GC (Link to this contribution)

Since that is technically an interruption to my speech—

Lord Moylan | 823 c205GC (Link to this contribution)

No, I am delighted. It adds much illumination.

Lord Moylan | 823 c205GC (Link to this contribution)

You could have more of me, my Lords, but I will simply say that I know nothing about ports. Howev...

Earl of Lytton | 823 cc206-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is my first intervention on the Bill because on the day of Second Reading I was co...

Lord Fox | 823 cc207-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sure the Minister will pick up on the noble Earl’s Voltaire reference and tell us ...

Baroness Hayman of Ullock | 823 cc208-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been an interesting debate. It has been interesting to listen to comments on t...

Lord True | 823 cc209-211GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it has been an interesting and important debate, which we will reflect on as we go forw...

Lord Scriven | 823 c211GC (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister clarify what an appropriate authority is? Who are the appropriate authorities an...

Lord True | 823 c211GC (Link to this contribution)

I was asked that at Second Reading. An appropriate authority is a Minister of the Crown or a Wels...

Lord Moylan | 823 c212GC (Link to this contribution)

I think that my noble friend is approaching his peroration. May I ask him for a little clarity? T...

Lord True | 823 c212GC (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend has very characteristically not only picked up an onion but begun to peel it into...

Lord Fox | 823 c212GC (Link to this contribution)

I sense that the Minister is winding. I have a quick question, which I think is best responded to...

Lord True | 823 c212GC (Link to this contribution)

Yes, my Lords. I have committed to write in relation to that and I will pick up other questions t...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 823 c213GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a workmanlike discussion, the unpeeling of the onion—the first of many un...

Lord Lansley | 823 c213GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Lansley

3: Clause 1, page 1, line 21, at end insert—

“(3A) A univ...

Lord Lansley | 823 cc213-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am glad to have the opportunity, by way of Amendment 3, to probe—I think it is litera...

Baroness Noakes | 823 cc214-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have a number of probing amendments in this group and throughout the Bill. The majori...

Baroness Noakes | 823 cc215-6GC (Link to this contribution)

I shall finish by offering a comment on another amendment in this group. Amendment 5, in the name...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 823 cc216-7GC (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to follow my noble friend with a few brief remarks. I say at the outset that I reg...

Lord Fox | 823 cc217-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, up to her final couple of sentences, I was going to recommend that the Minister listen ...

Lord Scriven | 823 cc218-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak on this set of amendments, particularly Amendment 42. It is the first tim...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 823 c219GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much welcome the question of the noble Lord, Lord Scriven, about local authoriti...

Lord Berkeley | 823 cc219-220GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to my Amendment 7. I do not think I need comment on any of the other amen...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 823 cc220-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is on some of these amendments. My colleagues have spoken to several of them so...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 823 cc221-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to my Amendment 19 and comment very briefly, because it was a pleasure to...

Lord Coaker | 823 cc223-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow my noble friend Lady Hayman after her remarks. I apologise t...

Lord True | 823 c224GC (Link to this contribution)

Again, my Lords, I am very grateful to all those who have spoken. There have been some interestin...

Lord Fox | 823 c224GC (Link to this contribution)

Can I just point out that the grouping comes from the Government Whips’ Office? We could have ext...

Lord True | 823 cc224-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, they are negotiated in the usual channels. Sometimes it is a fatal thing in your Lordsh...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 823 c229GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful. Just so that the Minister writes the correct letter to me, I am fully aware that s...

Lord True | 823 c230GC (Link to this contribution)

I was actually coming on to the rest of that but, with respect, the noble Lord asked me a specifi...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 823 c230GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I suggest looking at the definitions in Clause 112. I note that the terms “central gove...

Lord True | 823 c230GC (Link to this contribution)

I will certainly reflect on anything that is said in Committee. “Combined authority” has a partic...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 823 c230GC (Link to this contribution)

It is a federal question that I am asking, about states that border combined authorities.

Lord True | 823 cc230-1GC (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure that the First Minister is looking for a federation.

Where a procurement is b...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 823 c231GC (Link to this contribution)

I was delighted that the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, was able to pursue some of things that I touche...

Lord True | 823 cc231-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we need the Bill because we need a national procurement structure. I hear what my noble...

Lord Lansley | 823 cc232-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend should not feel he has to apologise for responding to colleagues in Committee who...

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