Judicial Review and Courts Bill
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Moved by
Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames
24: Clause 3, page 4, line 28, at end insert—...
My Lords, Clause 3 of the Bill sets out a new code, which is to become new Sections 16G to 16M of...
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Perhaps I might raise a point with the Minister. As I understand the scheme of Clause 3, this aut...
I am struggling to remember as far back as Second Reading of this Bill, but I did say at the time...
My Lords, I agree with the final sentence of the noble Baroness, Lady Jones. We all want to see t...
My Lords, I will first deal with the general argument for Clause 3, not least because the noble B...
I am grateful to the Minister. That was the point that I was seeking to make. The last time the o...
My Lords, I am grateful for that further explanation of the point and will happily reflect on it....
Just on that—and by the way, I did not speak earlier because the case was made so well by the nob...
I should say, first, that when I mentioned the noble Baroness in my speech, I was not making the ...
Before I consider our position, can I just ask when the cooling-off period is likely to kick in. ...
My Lords, I will give an answer, but I will check it and if I get it wrong I will write to the no...
I am grateful to the noble Lord for that clarification; I will consider it.
I will of cours...
Moved by
Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede
30: After Clause 5, insert the following new Clau...
My Lords, in introducing this group, I thought I would tell the Committee about my experience of ...
My Lords, before I speak to Amendment 37, I should like to congratulate my noble friend Lord Pons...
My Lords, I will make two separate points. First, Amendment 54, tabled by my noble friend Lord Po...
My Lords, as a former magistrate, I warmly support the first point made by my noble and learned f...
My Lords, the amendments in this group seek reviews or consultations in three quite disparate are...
I strongly agree that the magistracy is essentially a local service built up by knowledge of the ...
My Lords, the amendments in this group, Amendments 30, 37 and 54, all deal with reviews of the cr...
I am grateful to the Minister. Does he think that he ought to consider the impact that would flow...
Of course I accept that point as a matter of principle. That is why consultation is really at the...
The legislative form that this is taking, in Clause 43(1), is:
“Local justice areas are abo...
First, the legislative architecture, so to speak, is not just Clause 43: I have already mentioned...
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate. I have to admit that Amendment ...
Moved by
Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede
31: Clause 6, page 11, line 13, at end insert—
My Lords, in this group of amendments we are dealing with offences triable either way and determi...
My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 36 in my name. I also support Amendment 36A in the name of m...
My Lords, I express my support for Amendment 36A. When I was a member of your Lordships’ Constitu...
My Lords, I support all the amendments in this group. My support comes from my experience as a ma...
My Lords, I have very considerable concerns, which have also been expressed by the Delegated Powe...
My Lords, as a non-lawyer, I have listened to much of this debate before and today and I think th...
My Lords, the first two amendments in this group, Amendments 31 and 32 from the noble Lord, Lord ...
My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have taken part in this debate. It covers a number...
My Lords, I find myself in a somewhat invidious situation regarding Amendment 36. I thank the Min...
Moved by
Lord Wolfson of Tredegar
38: After Clause 23, insert the following new Claus...
My Lords, I am conscious that there is another amendment in this group, Amendment 39, in the name...
I shall quickly speak to Amendment 39, in the name of my noble friend Lord Ponsonby, which seeks ...
My Lords, the Minister rightly said that his Amendment 38 is a modest one, but this group of amen...
Look at subsection (6).
The Minister draws my attention to subsection (6), which allows a person to choose to do so by no...
In relation to that point, it is absolutely plain that the wording of Section 19 applies to any s...
My Lords, I am sorry to rise again, but I want to respond to what the Minister was indicating to ...
My Lords, I will speak first to government Amendment 38, which makes provision for pre-action dis...
I will first say a word about the amendment which I have put before the Committee. Dispute resolu...
I am sorry to interrupt the noble and learned Lord and am grateful for him giving way. May I draw...
The noble Lord is absolutely right, but I was seeking to make the point more broadly. I will come...
May I assist the Minister with an illustration? Four weeks ago, a close relative was owed a signi...
I am grateful to the noble Lord for his intervention. Absolutely, this is about enabling people t...
I am increasingly bewildered by these answers. I have obviously misunderstood this clause, but it...
That is the point I was going to come to. Here we are dealing with the rules set out by the Onlin...
My concern is not about online hearings, because they do take place and may be convenient in some...
I am grateful to the noble Lord. He is absolutely right about the three/three appointments, but I...
The relative of the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford, is the proof that we all want. We are al...
Let me deal with that last point. Amendment 38 is not about approving the persons but approving t...
What is envisaged in Amendment 38 is that, if it is Falconer Services or Wolfson Services, somebo...
That is not what Amendment 38 is aimed at. It is not about accrediting mediation services. It is ...
I am very grateful to the noble Lord. He correctly points out that there are occasions where ther...
With respect, of course I understand the point the noble Lord has made, and I will write to try t...
Moved by
Baroness Chakrabarti
40: Clause 38, page 53, line 12, at end insert—
“...
I am conscious that the Committee is valiant and well into the third hour of today’s proceedings;...
My Lords, the office of the coroner has evolved over 1,000 years since William the Conqueror intr...
My Lords, I agree with many of the points my noble friend has made. He made a particularly forcef...
I strongly agree with the noble Lord, Lord Beith, but I understand that he does not contest any o...
My Lords, I commend my noble friend Lady Chakrabarti for tabling these amendments so quickly; I a...
My Lords, the amendments in this group relate to coroners’ inquests, and include government and n...
Subject to the views of the Committee, that sounds eminently sensible. In case it is necessary, p...
I was not seeking to take any procedural point. Rather than take time this afternoon, because we ...
I am sorry, I know that we are pushed for time and there are important matters that we want to ge...
It certainly is. I had prepared to respond to the amendments and am happy to do so if the Committ...
The Minister has said we want coroners’ inquests to remain inquisitorial. In practice, they are a...
I can accept two points there. I can accept that I and the Government will reconsider it. We cert...
We are getting to the heart of it, in a sense, because the Government contend that these processe...
Of course I understand that point, in the sense that I too have read the material of people who h...
Whether the process is inquisitorial or adversarial, surely you are entitled to basic fairness. T...
The fundamental point is: who is the “you”? Who are the parties to an inquest? As I was saying ea...
That is not the intention; it is that the hearing in its entirety should not be conducted by audi...
I am grateful for that clarification, but the same point would apply. If the only people who are ...
It is not just human nature; it is the practical difficulty of registering deaths and making appo...
I understand that, certainly from my postbag. I should say that coroners work extremely hard, but...
My Lords, I am grateful to every Member of the Committee who participated, in particular to the n...
Moved by
Lord Wolfson of Tredegar
46: After Clause 42, insert the following new Claus...
Moved by
Baroness Chapman of Darlington
47: After Clause 42, insert the following new...
My Lords, with the permission of the Committee, my noble friend Lady Chakrabarti and I have had a...
My Lords, in the mists of time I was articled to Maurice Evans, who was the coroner on the inques...
I do not want to repeat anything that the noble Baroness, Lady Chakrabarti, said in her moving co...
My Lords, if noble Lords will permit me, I would like to make a short intervention. I have not ta...
My Lords, the amendments in this group, Amendments 47, 48 and 49, would introduce three new claus...
Bravo, bravo!
The noble Lord has not read it yet, but I will take the bravos in advance in case I get brickbats...
Clearly, we will not push the amendments to a vote today. It is pleasing to hear the Minister rec...
Moved by
Lord Etherton
51: After Clause 45, insert the following new Clause—
“P...
As I foreshadowed at Second Reading, I have tabled this amendment to enable tribunals to make pro...
My Lords, we fully support the amendment moved by the noble and learned Lord. There is nothing th...
Similarly, I indicate our hope that the Government will bring something forward. Should that not ...
My Lords, as this is the last group in Committee, it is nice to end on a point of general agreeme...
I think there is nothing more to say. I am very grateful to the Minister for those indications, a...
Moved by
Lord Wolfson of Tredegar
52: Clause 48, page 58, line 15, at end insert “, e...