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Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill

Lords report stage third day. Amendments 83 and 84 agreed to. Amendment 85 disagreed to on division (30 to 79). (Part 2 of 2).

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Reference

817 cc371-418 

Session

2021-22

Legislative stage

Report stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill 2019-21 to 2021-22. As amended in Committee.
Wednesday, 24 November 2021
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House of Lords
Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill
Wednesday, 15 December 2021
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House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 817 cc371-2 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts

82: Clause 125, insert the following new Clau...

Baroness Fookes | 817 c372 (Link to this contribution)

There is a slight mistake on the Marshalled List. It should read “After Clause 125”.


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Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 817 cc372-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 82 is concerned about Friday prisoner releases, or perhaps I should say the b...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 817 cc374-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak in support of Amendment 82, to which I was very pleased to add my name. I appla...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 817 c375 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when I was a child and my parents stopped me doing something I would say “That’s not fa...

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 817 cc375-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I raised the issue of Friday releases at Second Reading and in Committee. I thank the n...

Baroness Hamwee | 817 c376 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not disagree with a word of what has been said but regarding “What’s not to like?”...

Earl Attlee | 817 c376 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I strongly support my noble friend Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbots. I agree with everythi...

Earl Attlee | 817 c376 (Link to this contribution)

Maybe the Minister was suggesting something. Seriously, I hope that my noble and learned friend a...

Lord German | 817 cc377-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too have signed this amendment. It amazes me that we have unanimity on the problem—a ...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 817 c378 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my first interest in criminal justice came about 20 years ago, before I became a magist...

Lord Stewart of Dirleton | 817 cc378-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment seeks to reduce releases on a Friday, or on days before bank holidays, i...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 817 c379 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt, but the Minister seems to be using this as an argument for not accepting...

Earl Attlee | 817 c379 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if the Scottish experience shows that it is no good, why on earth was it put in the Whi...

Lord Stewart of Dirleton | 817 cc379-380 (Link to this contribution)

The point is not simply to equiparate the example of Scotland; the point is to emphasise the comp...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 817 c380 (Link to this contribution)

Is the noble and learned Lord in effect saying it will be at least two years until there can be l...

Lord Stewart of Dirleton | 817 c380 (Link to this contribution)

More than once, even today, this House has emphasised the importance of moving forward on the bas...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 817 c380 (Link to this contribution)

My suggestion was to wait until the end of the consultation, which we are told will be next April...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 817 c380 (Link to this contribution)

When this Government want to bring in some quite nasty legislation, they can move very fast. I do...

Earl Attlee | 817 c380 (Link to this contribution)

Surely the Minister could introduce at Third Reading an order-making power that would last indefi...

Lord Stewart of Dirleton | 817 c380 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, notwithstanding the fact that we are in the season of Advent, approaching Christmas, I ...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 817 c380 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but I do not understand what the Minister means.

Lord Stewart of Dirleton | 817 cc380-1 (Link to this contribution)

What I mean simply is that the noble Baroness, doubtless with the best possible intention, is usi...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 817 cc381-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have had an interesting debate. I thank all those who contributed to it. The noble B...

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 817 c382 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar

83: Schedule 13, page 243, line 36, leave out from ...

Baroness Fookes | 817 c382 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness, Lady Harris, will take part remotely in the next debate.

Amendment 84

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 cc382-3 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

84: After Clause 132, insert the following new...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 cc383-5 (Link to this contribution)

In moving the amendment in my name, I want also to address the related amendments tabled by the n...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 817 c386 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak in support of the amendment. I thank the noble Baroness for bringing it forward...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 817 c386 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I call the noble Baroness, Lady Harris of Richmond, who will speak remotely.

Baroness Harris of Richmond | 817 cc386-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest in that my son works in retail. I have added my name to that of m...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 817 cc387-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the noble Lords, Lord Coaker and Lord Kennedy. I shall speak to my Amendment ...

Lord Dholakia | 817 cc388-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 114 is in my name. We discussed it in Committee and I have studied at great l...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 817 c389 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I signed and spoke to related amendments in Committee. I also take a perhaps rare oppor...

Lord Coaker | 817 cc389-391 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great privilege to speak in this debate. I declare an interest as a member of U...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 cc391-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in my time as a Minister I have had a to-do list in my mind, and included on it was tac...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 817 c393 (Link to this contribution)

Before my noble friend sits down, perhaps she could get one final plaudit for her terrific perfor...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 c393 (Link to this contribution)

I am more than happy to do that. In fact, I think it would be a very good idea to meet up, becaus...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 817 c393 (Link to this contribution)

I am genuinely very grateful to the Minister. I think this is a good example for all Members of t...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 c393 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord is absolutely right. I think we will call it the “Kennedy approach”, but then we h...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 817 c393 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, I will just bounce off what the noble Baroness, Lady Neville-Rolfe...

Bishop of Gloucester | 817 cc393-4 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

The Lord Bishop of Gloucester

85: After Clause 132, insert the following new...

Bishop of Gloucester | 817 cc394-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 85 I will speak also to the other amendments in my name in the grou...

Lord Bradley | 817 cc396-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak—briefly at this hour—to this group of amendments and declare my interes...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 817 c398 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise briefly to offer Green support to the right reverend Prelate, who so powerfully ...

Lord German | 817 cc398-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too pay tribute to the right reverend Prelate for her dedicated work in this matter. ...

Baroness Hamwee | 817 c399 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, one of the children to whom my noble friend refers gave evidence to the Joint Committee...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 817 cc399-400 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have also put my name to these amendments, so ably moved by the right reverend Prelat...

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 817 cc400-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group of amendments relates to primary carers in the criminal justice system. We d...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 817 c402 (Link to this contribution)

I think the point I made is that they are extremely variable.

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 817 c402 (Link to this contribution)

I am looking at the glass as half full. I acknowledge their variability but we want to improve th...

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 817 c403 (Link to this contribution)

If appropriate, exactly; it all depends. The sentencers have experience of the nature of the repo...

Bishop of Gloucester | 817 c403 (Link to this contribution)

It is good to hear what the Minister has to say. Some of those points were things that I challeng...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 817 c405 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

88A: Clause 133, page 126, line 35, at end insert...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 817 cc405-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have been talking about data, and this is another example of collecting data, becaus...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 817 c406 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords,

“No child should suffer such appalling abuse, especially from those who should lo...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 817 c406 (Link to this contribution)

I have dealt with that exact point in my time as a youth court magistrate. It is not just childre...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 817 cc406-7 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my noble friend; obviously I do not have his personal experience as a magistrate...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 817 cc407-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Chakrabarti, and I agree with...

Lord Ramsbotham | 817 c409 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendments 89 and 90. I endorse what the noble Baroness, Lady Chakrabarti, sa...

Lord Paddick | 817 c409 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, prompted by the words of the noble Baroness, Lady Chakrabarti, I was reminded of a visi...

Earl Attlee | 817 c409 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise briefly to support the noble Baroness in Amendment 89, for the reasons she has o...

Lord Dholakia | 817 cc409-414 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 89 is also in the name of the noble and learned Baroness, Lady Butler-Sloss, ...

Baroness Blower | 817 c414 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is late, and I have very little to add to this debate, since it has already been ext...

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 817 cc414-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have two amendments before us in the sense of concept. I will take Amendment 88A fir...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 817 c416 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister referred to the diversion of young people who might end up in the criminal justice s...

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 817 c417 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to respond in writing a little more fully, but I can say—with the caveat that I absolu...

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