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Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 13 December 2021, in the House of Lords, led by Baroness Williams of Trafford. The answering members were Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede and Lord Rosser.
Lords report stage second day. Amendments 15 to 17, 19 to 21, 23, 26 to 29 and 31 agreed to. Amendment 35 disagreed to on division (83 to 183). Amendments 36 to 42, 47, 49 and 52 to 55 agreed to. Amendment 55ZB disagreed to on division, there being an equality of votes, in accordance with Standing Order 55, which provides that no proposal to amend a Bill in the form in which it is before the House shall be agreed to unless there is a majority in favour of such an amendment (171 to 171). Amendment 55A disagreed to on division (71 to 167). Amendment 56 agreed to. (Part 1 of 2).

About these Parliamentary proceedings

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817 cc24-76 

Session

2021-22

Legislative stage

Report stage

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House of Lords chamber

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Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 c25 (Link to this contribution)

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15: Clause 12, page 13, line 12, after “includ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 cc25-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as I set out in Committee, the Government are absolutely committed to tackling violence...


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Baroness Bertin | 817 cc26-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am delighted to welcome this group of government amendments. Making the change to exp...

Baroness Jolly | 817 cc27-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I join others in thanking the Minister for bringing forward these amendments. I congrat...

Lord Rosser | 817 c28 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the Minister said, government Amendment 15 clarifies that violence for the purposes ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 cc28-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lady Bertin for her comments. I share entirely my noble friend’...

Lord Hayward | 817 c29 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend referred to sexual violence against women and girls. Can I clarify that this legi...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 c29 (Link to this contribution)

I am glad my noble friend has mentioned that. We have said right from the outset that it covers b...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 c29 (Link to this contribution)

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16: Clause 12, page 13, line 14, at end insert...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 c29 (Link to this contribution)

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19: Clause 15, page 15, line 41, leave out “a ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 c29 (Link to this contribution)

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23: Clause 15, page 15, line 45, at beginning ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 c31 (Link to this contribution)

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26: Clause 16, page 16, line 22, after “that” ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 c31 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

31: Clause 16, page 16, line 39, at beginning ...

Lord Paddick | 817 c31 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Paddick

35: Clause 17, leave out Clause 17

Member’s explanatory s...

Lord Paddick | 817 c31 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I indicated on Wednesday that I would divide the House on leaving out Clause 17, so I w...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 c34 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

36: Clause 18, page 17, line 37, at end insert...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 c34 (Link to this contribution)

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37: Clause 19, page 19, line 7, after “include...

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40: Page 20, line 32, at end insert—

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42: Clause 31, page 27, line 7, at end insert—...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 817 c35 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

42A: After Clause 35, insert the following new Cl...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 817 cc35-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the new clause introduced by Amendment 42A seeks to modify the Domestic Violence, Crime...

Lord Paddick | 817 c36 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if domestic abuse is now included in the serious violence duty—and there is no more ser...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 817 c36 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if I may just say a few words in support of this amendment, which was moved with such c...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 cc36-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Ponsonby, for outlining this amendment with such clarity. ...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 817 c37 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will of course withdraw the amendment, which was essentially intended to nudge the no...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 817 c38 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Chakrabarti

43: Clause 36, page 29, line 32, at end insert—

“...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 817 cc38-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group of amendments and the related clauses address the phenomenon that those unfo...

Lord Beith | 817 cc39-40 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am ready to support the commitment of the noble Baroness, Lady Chakrabarti, in bringi...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 817 cc40-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Beith, with his usual remarkable acuity, has put his finger on a v...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 817 c41 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much hope the Minister can listen to this, because it is obvious that there is a...

Baroness Hamwee | 817 c41 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, regarding the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Carlile, about explanations, I absolut...

Bishop of Leeds | 817 cc41-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, especially following the speech by the noble Lord, Lord Carlile, I am conscious that I ...

Lord Paddick | 817 cc42-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we support all the amendments in this group in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Cha...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 817 cc43-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all those noble Lords who have taken part on this group. The key issue which we...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 cc44-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree that this has been a very thoughtful debate. I hope that, at the end of this, t...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 817 c48 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to all noble Lords who spoke in this short debate. What a great team, and a model o...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 c50 (Link to this contribution)

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47: Clause 36, page 30, line 13, at end insert...

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49: Clause 36, page 30, line 24, at end insert...

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52: Clause 40, page 35, line 17, at end insert...

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

53: Clause 42, page 36, line 16, leave out sub...

Lord Garnier | 817 c51 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Garnier

55ZA: Clause 63, page 59, line 11, at end insert—

“(1A) T...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 817 c51 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, will be participating remotely in this debate.

Lord Garnier | 817 cc51-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I begin by explaining that I will not be pressing my amendment to a Division. I thank t...

Lord Garnier | 817 c55 (Link to this contribution)

I am so glad to have the approbation of the noble Lords opposite, for whom I have the greatest re...

Baroness Brinton | 817 cc55-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am a patron of the Traveller Movement. I thank the Minister for reaching out to those...

Baroness Whitaker | 817 cc56-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for not raising my eyes to the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, initially. Her...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 817 cc57-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to my Amendments 55A, 55B and 56A. I also express support for amendment fr...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 817 cc59-60 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 57, which is in my name, those of the noble Lords, Lord Bo...

Bishop of Manchester | 817 cc60-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare my interests, first in my work with the National Police Chiefs’ Council, whic...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 817 cc61-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the right reverend Prelate the Bishop of Manchester an...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 817 cc63-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I first of all apologise that I was unable to be here for the Committee on this Bill be...

Baroness Greengross | 817 c65 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am speaking in favour of Amendment 55ZB from the noble Baroness, Lady Whitaker, which...

Lord Pannick | 817 cc65-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have a question for the Minister which is relevant to Amendment 55ZB, in the name of ...

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 817 cc66-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this group of important amendments, which seek to bring some sort of equality...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 817 c67 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there is a lot of force in what the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, said about reasonable exc...

Lord Paddick | 817 cc67-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there are two problems here. Because of the behaviour of the lawless few, all Gypsy, Ro...

Lord Rosser | 817 cc68-9 (Link to this contribution)

First, I congratulate my noble friend Lady Whitaker on her amendment and on all the work that she...

Lord Young of Norwood Green | 817 cc69-70 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I waited because I wanted to hear which amendments our Front-Bench speakers were suppor...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 c70 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in what has been quite a wide-ranging debate on...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 817 c71 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister. I hope she will read Hansard carefully in the morning. She will see that I ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 cc71-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is interesting that the noble Lord thinks that I was referring to him. I said that t...

Lord Pannick | 817 cc74-5 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness for answering my earlier question. As I understood her answer, it was ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 c75 (Link to this contribution)

As the noble Lord probably knows, that will be a determination for the courts to make.

Lord Pannick | 817 c75 (Link to this contribution)

I am simply anxious that the matter is not left on the basis that the Minister put it, because I ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 c75 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps we could discuss this further if that is amenable to the noble Lord, but I accept his poi...

Lord Garnier | 817 cc75-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, 15 noble Lords have spoken in this debate. Most of them have concentrated on amendments...

Baroness Whitaker | 817 c76 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Whitaker

55ZB: Clause 63, page 59, line 11, at end insert—

“(...

Baroness Whitaker | 817 c76 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am extremely grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken so eloquently in this debate...

Baroness Henig | 817 c76 (Link to this contribution)

There being an equality of votes, in accordance with Standing Order 55, which provides that no pr...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 817 c76 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle

55A: Clause 63, leave out Clause 63

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 817 c76 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as I indicated in the previous discussion, I feel that this is a moral issue on which a...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 817 c76 (Link to this contribution)

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56: Clause 65, page 64, line 43, at end insert...

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