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Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Wednesday, 10 November 2021, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage seventh day. Clauses 79 to 95 agreed to. (Part 1 of 2).

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Reference

815 cc1730-1750 

Session

2021-22

Department

Ministry of Justice

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber

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Proceeding contributions

Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 815 c1731 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe

172: Clause 79, page 74, line 2, after “offence,”...

Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 815 cc1731-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 172, I will also speak to Amendments 173, 177, 179, 180 and 186, to...


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Lord Paddick | 815 c1732 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe, has relayed to the Committee clearly a very...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 815 c1732 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree with the points that the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, just made. I also think that...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 815 c1733 (Link to this contribution)

I hope I can be forgiven for intervening slightly out of order. I have been thinking as I listen ...

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 815 cc1733-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group of amendments, proposed by the noble Lord, Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe, seeks...

Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 815 c1735 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to everyone who has contributed. As noble Lords probably gathered, I was ...

Lord Paddick | 815 c1735 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Paddick

174: Clause 80, page 75, line 1, leave out subsection (8)

Lord Paddick | 815 cc1735-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will also speak to the other amendments in this group. The Committee has already cons...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 815 c1736 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I listened with interest to the noble Lord, Lord Paddick. As he says, in this part of t...

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 815 cc1736-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, for putting forward this group of amendments. If ...

Lord Paddick | 815 cc1737-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for saying something. The whole point of not allowing it to be in ...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 815 c1738 (Link to this contribution)

If Amendment 176 is approved, I cannot call Amendment 177 by reason of pre-emption.

Lord Paddick | 815 c1738 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Paddick

178: Clause 86, page 78, line 17, leave out subsection (4)

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Lord Paddick | 815 cc1738-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, by way of a little light relief for the Committee, I rise to move Amendment 178 in my n...

Baroness Hamwee | 815 c1739 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, does the Minister think that the Bill is so short that it would have spoiled it if the ...

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 815 c1739 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, taking that last point first, one of the glories of our system is that the drafting is ...

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 815 cc1739-1740 (Link to this contribution)

I was going to say “comprehensible” but that is a pretty high test— perhaps “as clear as good leg...

Lord Paddick | 815 c1740 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the Minister. Perhaps I may gently suggest that if something akin to what t...

Baroness Hamwee | 815 c1740 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before my noble friend withdraws his amendment, I should say that he is quite right. Th...

Lord Paddick | 815 c1740 (Link to this contribution)

I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Bishop of Durham | 815 c1741 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

The Lord Bishop of Durham

181: Clause 88, page 79, line 36, at end insert—

Bishop of Durham | 815 cc1741-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am moving the amendment in the name of my friend the right reverend Prelate the Bisho...

Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd | 815 cc1743-4 (Link to this contribution)

It was a privilege to add my name to this amendment, which has been so ably moved by the right re...

Lord Beith | 815 cc1744-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very glad to support the right reverend Prelate and the noble and learned Lord who...

Lord Framlingham | 815 c1745 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am not as well versed in these matters as many noble Lords are, but, in the interest ...

Lord Paddick | 815 cc1745-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we support this amendment, but, as I have already said, we have our doubts about the wh...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 815 cc1746-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a wide-ranging debate. When the right reverend Prelate introduced it, he ...

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 815 cc1747-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope it is in order to pick up one point that was put to me at the end of the last gr...

Lord Paddick | 815 c1748 (Link to this contribution)

It is not a conceptual gulf. It is a question of where the evidence is that cautions with conditi...

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 815 cc1748-9 (Link to this contribution)

Well, we did have that exchange. I went through the way that it has been piloted in various polic...

Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd | 815 c1749 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Lord sits down, and to go back to the fundamental point about the code of practi...

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar | 815 c1749 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, of course I understand the point made by the noble and learned Lord. We could have an i...

Bishop of Durham | 815 c1750 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his substantive and indeed substantial reply. The right reverend Prelate...

Subjects

Police cautions
Alternatives to prosecution

Legislation

Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill 2019-21 to 2021-22

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