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Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Wednesday, 27 October 2021, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage third day. Clauses 8 to 35 agreed to, with clauses 13 and 17 agreed to as amended. Schedules 1 and 2 agreed to. (Part 1 of 2).

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Reference

815 cc803-851 

Session

2021-22

Department

Home Office

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber

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Proceeding contributions

Baroness Bertin | 815 c803 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Bertin

55: Clause 12, page 13, line 4, at end insert “, and domesti...

Baroness Bertin | 815 cc804-5 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for being a bit quick off the mark earlier.

Amendment 55 would clarify in the l...


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Lord Carlile of Berriew | 815 c805 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Baroness. Does she agree that the passing of her amendment, or somethi...

Baroness Bertin | 815 cc805-6 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord for his intervention and absolutely agree. Of course, it would not solve t...

Baroness Brinton | 815 cc806-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I speak to my Amendment 56, I will start by saying that I completely agree with ...

Lord Polak | 815 c808 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very pleased to add my name to Amendment 55 and pay tribute to my noble friend Lad...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 815 cc808-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I also support the amendment in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Bertin. I thank he...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 815 cc809-810 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I add my support for the noble Baroness, Lady Bertin, in Amendment 55, and I will speak...

Baroness Newlove | 815 cc810-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I applaud my noble friend Lady Bertin’s eloquent speech about something so sensitive an...

Baroness Hamwee | 815 c811 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 57A and 59A have been grouped here. I am always hesitant to follow with a sm...

Baroness Altmann | 815 cc811-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, support Amendment 55 in the name of my noble friend Lady Bertin, and I pay trib...

Baroness Wyld | 815 cc812-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I start by apologising to the Committee for not speaking at Second Reading—I am afraid ...

Bishop of Gloucester | 815 c813 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too add my support to the amendment moved by the noble Baroness, Lady Bertin. Many po...

Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 815 cc813-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support everything that has been said so far. I will speak to Amendments 57 and 58, i...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 815 cc814-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 58 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe, but I...

Lord Hogan-Howe | 815 cc815-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendments 55 and 56, principally because, apart from their justice, it is na...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 815 c816 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have already made a comment about serious sexual offences but there is something else...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 815 c816 (Link to this contribution)

We are going into a wider debate. My personal view is that we should never have abolished the Oxf...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 815 c816 (Link to this contribution)

I realised when I started on this that there were one or two noble Lords around the House—I saw o...

Lord Judge | 815 c817 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps we should leave the reorganisation of the police to another occasion. The first...

Lord Paddick | 815 cc817-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I have absolutely no doubt about the Minister’s commitment to dealing with the s...

Lord Rosser | 815 cc818-821 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, like other noble Lords I await with interest the Government’s response to all the amend...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 815 cc821-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I assure noble Lords that I will not be getting into a debate about the number of polic...

Baroness Bertin | 815 cc823-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I thank everyone for their powerful collection of persuasive speeches supporting...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 815 c824 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

59: Clause 13, page 13, line 25, after “body” ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 815 c824 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 59 to Clause 13 is a drafting amendment. Clause 13 concerns the involvement o...

Lord Paddick | 815 c825 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we on these Benches want to probe whether Clause 13 needs to stand part of the Bill. Ca...

Lord Bach | 815 cc825-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, for this stand part debate. If the Commi...

Lord Rosser | 815 cc827-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her explanation of government Amendment 59. She said it makes a minor cl...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 815 cc828-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with apologies for rising at this late stage, I lay my cards on the table and say that ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 815 cc829-830 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have contributed to this debate. Clause 13 provides a power...

Lord Paddick | 815 c830 (Link to this contribution)

I have just a couple of questions. First, what aspects of Clause 13 are local policing bodies cur...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 815 c830 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall try to. At the moment, PCCs and other local policing bodies have the powers to ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 815 c831 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

72: Clause 17, page 17, line 5, leave out “con...

Baroness Meacher | 815 cc831-2 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to explore whether Clause 17 should in fact stand part of the Bill. I am grateful to the n...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 815 c832 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have to support what I have just heard from the noble Baroness, Lady Meacher, for rea...

Lord Paddick | 815 cc832-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to support the noble Baroness, Lady Meacher, and I am very grateful to the noble...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 815 cc833-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group starts with government Amendment 72, which I will say a brief word about. Th...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 815 cc834-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we expect that the duty will provide the right legal basis for improved multiagency wor...

Lord Beith | 815 c835 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister explain subsection (5), which sets out that

“the governor of a prison, you...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 815 c835 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the direction power is not available in relation to probation services provided by the ...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 815 c835 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, I have one further question about the protection on data protectio...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 815 c836 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness is absolutely right about data protection but there are exemptions. One is the...

Lord Paddick | 815 c836 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister. I think I need to read what she said and compare it with what is i...

Baroness Meacher | 815 c836 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her response on Clause 17. However, I wish to express a bit of concern. ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 815 cc836-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am keen for this not to be left hanging in uncertainty. Perhaps a bit of further expl...

Earl Attlee | 815 c837 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before the noble Baroness withdraws her objection to the clause standing part, I remind...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 815 c837 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it might be helpful to the Committee if I clarify what may be a slight confusion. The g...

Lord Paddick | 815 c837 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Paddick

73: Clause 18, page 17, line 17, at end insert “and contained i...

Lord Paddick | 815 cc837-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 73, I will speak also to Amendment 74 in my name.

Clause 18 s...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 815 c838 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we support the amendments put forward by the noble Lord, Lord Paddick. On Amendment 74,...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 815 cc838-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that was quick for a Committee debate. I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Ponsonby, ...

Lord Paddick | 815 c839 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister, but it was actually me who proposed these amendments.

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 815 c839 (Link to this contribution)

I do apologise to the noble Lord, Lord Paddick.

Lord Paddick | 815 c839 (Link to this contribution)

My ventriloquism skills are not so good that the Minister would think I was the noble Lord, Lord ...

Lord Paddick | 815 c839 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Paddick

75: Clause 23, page 22, line 7, at end insert—

“(c) no ot...

Lord Paddick | 815 cc839-841 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 75 I will speak also to Amendments 76 and 77 in this group, all in ...

Lord Beith | 815 cc840-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am glad to support my noble friend in questioning whether the processes outlined in t...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 815 c842 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, has made it clear that these are probing amendments. The ...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 815 cc842-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, for explaining his amendments to the provisions in...

Lord Beith | 815 c844 (Link to this contribution)

It is important that we get this matter clear. If the coroner has begun an inquest, does that inq...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 815 c844 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord for that intervention. As I understand it, yes it does. I expect I will be...

Lord Paddick | 815 c844 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. It cannot possibly be right that a coroner’s inques...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 815 cc844-6 (Link to this contribution)

I am not in a position to answer that question, I am afraid. I shall have to write to the noble L...

Lord Beith | 815 c846 (Link to this contribution)

Before my noble friend does that, can the Minister clear up a mystery? I remain mystified. A pers...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 815 c846 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord. I thought that I had made it clear, and I apologise for obviously not hav...

Lord Paddick | 815 cc846-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for attempting to answer my questions. I am very grateful for his ...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 815 c847 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Falconer of Thoroton

78: After Clause 35, insert the following new Clau...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 815 cc847-9 (Link to this contribution)

This amendment deals with domestic homicide reviews, which are provided for in Section 9 of the D...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 815 c849 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble and learned Lord, Lord Falconer of Thoroton....

Lord Paddick | 815 cc849-850 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I listened very carefully to the arguments put forward by the noble and learned lord, L...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 815 cc850-2 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble and learned Lord, Lord Falconer, for his conversation this afternoon, which was...

Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 815 c851 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Bennett, and the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, for speaking...

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